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Nine Reasons to Change the Design of the TVP

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Your good selves wrote :There are no quotes after July 26, 1976 to indicate that Prabhupada wanted the Temple of the Vedic Planetarium to look like the Capitol building.

This kind of reasoning is problematic. I’ll explain.

There are no quotes after July 26, 1976 which indicate that Srila Prabhupada changed his mind from the Capitol design which he explicitly mentioned to George Harrison.

I think that is how we have to look at things.

In my opinion we can safely apply Jayadvaita Maharaja’s general rule of the thumb here which goes something like “If Srila Prabhupada did not explicitly state it and it first came up after 1977, whatever it is, reject it” There is no explicit statement that Srila Prabhupada had changed his mind about the Capitol design. We are rather left with an explicit statement that “the construction will be like your Washington capitol, like that”

The burden of proof lies with the plaintiff. If Srila Prabhupada changed his mind after July 26, 1976, it needs to be proven. The onus is on your good selves to prove that. Utimately it is Srila Prabhupada’s specific desire that weighs the most although he may have been open to other designs. In our case his specific desire was “The construction will be like your Washington Capitol, like that”

The safety of Srila Prabhupada desire is the best risk (considering the fact any design may be subject to controversy) to take for us and for mankind. So let it be like the Capitol design. All possible objections like neoclassical design, need for cultural neutrality and so on fly in the face of the absolute status of his desires.

Comment Posted By Acintya Caitanya das On 26.08.2008 @ 03:12

Comment 2

I think Hari Sauri Prabhu’s presentation was well balanced because he brought out something apparently more stronger in your favor than the January 21, 1976 anecdote. The “omitted” January 21, 1976 incident is less in your favor than what Hari Sauri Prabhu wrote. Please read the folowing section from his article carefully:

“Thus Srila Prabhupada several times expressed his desire to have the TVP modelled after the Capitol building.

However, in Mayapur just prior to the 1977 Gaura Purnima festival Saurabha prabhu presented Srila Prabhupada with simple plans for a varnasrama city. He had designed a TVP with 108 domes around its main dome. There is no information as to whether Saurabha ever received the photos from Yadubara so we don’t know whether he didn’t know about Srila Prabhupada’s idea, or he just ignored it. At any rate, Srila Prabhupada allowed Saurabha to make a model of his own design and this was displayed on a pedestal just outside the Lotus building”

Thus there are two facts to consider:

#1 Srila Prabhupada specifically expressed his desire/liking about the Washington Capitol and even said that the construction will be like that.

#2 Srila Prabhupada allowed Saurabh Prabhu’s design to be displayed on a pedestal just outside the Lotus building.

Fact #2 shows that Srila Prabhupada was open to other designs but does not show that Srila Prabhupada had given up his desire about Washington Capitol design

Comment Posted By Acintya Caitanya das On 26.08.2008 @ 03:08

Dear Tattvavit and Janakiram Prabhus,
Hare Krishna!

Comment 1

My vote:

I approve of the present design. In fact I like it.

Hari Sauri Prabhu’s article was brilliant, coherent and well balanced. It was internally consistent and the contents of it were put together in a way that preserved the direction of Srila Prabhupada’s mind.

Referring to the January 21, 1976 anecdote which Hari Sauri Prabhu did not bring up in his article, your goodselves wrote : Hari Sauri Prabhu did not bring this paragraph from his book to anyone’s attention on Dandavats in June, but argued instead that “If it is a question of preferences, why not accept Srila Prabhupada’s own preference - the Capitol dome?”.

Kindly note that this incident that your good selves have mentioned took place on January 21, 1976. However on July 6, 1976 Srila Prabhupada requested Yadubara Prabhu and Mother Vishaka to take pictures of the Capitol dome. On July 7, 1976, he expressed happiness with the pictures “He asked for three sets to be developed: one for himself; one to be sent to the Mayapur GBC,Gargamuni Swami; and one for our architect, Saurabha Prabhu” Finally on July 26, 1976 he told George Harrison “The construction will be like your Washington Capitol, like that”

So where does that leave us?

Comment Posted By Acintya Caitanya das On 26.08.2008 @ 03:04

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Those who are not members of PAMHO can also join the conference.

Comment Posted By Acintya Caitanya das On 29.11.2007 @ 00:23

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