Comments Posted By Bir Krishna Goswami
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Hare Krishna! I need to make it abundantly clear since some people are still under the impression I was referring to Indradyumna Swami’s program.
I have never seen his program, I don’t know what it consists of, I have never been to Poland.
I am sure whatever Indradyumna Maharaj is doing is pure and good for the preaching.
I am referring to programs taking place in other places in Europe where he does not go.
Here is an excerpt from a letter I got about one such group:
…”but after a while they started to dance in hotels around the country to serve as entertainment at corporate events for different companies…”
….not traditional songs, but many were movie songs or modern indian pop music. One Hindi song, Jhiya jale, is especially contaversial, since it is … a honeymoon song, basically discribing the events of the wedding night…..
In any case, I am a firm believer that the topic in general should be discussed in an open forum such as dandavats.com
I am not an advocate of the mushroom philosophy where devotees are not allowed to talk about controversial subject matters.
I think the discussion we are having is very healthy and wanted by the devotees (just look at the responses within such a short period of time), and I plan on asking other questions (trying to avoid misunderstandings in the future by making myself clearer) in the future because I value feedback from the devotees.
» Posted By Bir Krishna Goswami On Dec 15, 2007 @ 2:57 pm
A clarification on my article:
I was not referring to anything that Indradyumna Swami does as I was not even aware that his party does any of these things. I have never seen any performances or Harinama’s done by his people. So, please do not take this as a commentary on anything he does.
In the Rasa Lilas I have seen the Gopis are dancing around Radha and Krishna and at the end Radha and Krishna are embracing tightly in a tight embrace which lasts for sometime.
» Posted By Bir Krishna Goswami On Dec 14, 2007 @ 5:01 pm
I would like to be more specific about my request for feedback.
First of all I am interested in getting feedback from all the devotees. I consider the feedback I get from all devotees equally valuable. My belief is that Krishna speaks through all the Vaisnavas equally depending of course on their level of spiritual advancement, It is not necessarily true that those with a position in the hierarchy are more in touch with Krishna than others. When I referred to Rasa Lila dancing I was not referring to traditional Indian dance but rather dances portraying Krishna’s loving relationship with the Gopis done to modern music. Specifically the song Syama. This dance is done publically (parks, streets, etc) as a means of preaching.
As far as the comment about Harinamas is concerned it was in relationship to Harinamas where the women are arranged in such a way as to draw attention to themselves (physically) rather than to the mantra.
Thinking about it more deeply I am basically concerned about how people will see Prabhupada’s movement and whether or not they will take us seriously. I doubt that any serious religious society would employ means that would be seen as questionable in attracting people. I am trying to see ourselves through the eyes of the people who are not Krishna conscious, especially the intelligent class of men that Srila Prabhupada wanted to attract.
When I do this (attempt to see through the eyes of potential devotees coming from the intelligent class), I question some of the methods that we are employing at present such as the aforementioned methods.
I am not questioning the consciousness or intention of those who employ such methods. I am only questioning the efficacy in terms of our strategy to carry out Srila Prabhupada’s will of making the whole world Krishna conscious.
Bir Krishna Goswami
» Posted By Bir Krishna Goswami On Dec 12, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
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A note of clarification:
I want to clarify my point in posing the question about using lust to attract people to Krishna consciousness.
I am against it 150% and so disgusted with the flagrant use of it in so
called “Rasa Lila” dances and in public harinamas that I was impelled to
post this article on dandavats. I want to see if others feel the same way or
not. That is my intention.
» Posted By Bir Krishna Goswami On Dec 10, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
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