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Double-voice amplification kirtans in Iskcon Mayapur

“Alienating” people? I doubt that very much. I’m with Akruranatha prabhu: a far, far more important issue is the volume. So what, there are two mikes—-personally I think it’s wonderful and festive, but it should be restricted to Gaura-arati, where it has always happened. But the real problem is the volume.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On May 1, 2011 @ 11:42 pm

Editorial Comment about the GBC paper titled “The Last Conversation”

Thank you for FINALLY pointing out the errant use of the word “senior” in relation to Narayan Maharaja. While he may be older in years, he is the same generation as all Prabhupada’s disciples: they are, in fact, peers.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Jun 11, 2010 @ 11:55 pm

VISHNU at the Thailand Airport

Akruranath prabhu wrote:

> I was very impressed by this large diorama. It must be in Bangkok (I do not know any other large Thai
> airport).

It’s in Bangkok’s new airport, Suvarnabhumi. There is a lot of evidence of Vedic culture in their tradition, and in fact their king, Bhumibol Adulyadej, (who is also referred to as “Maharaja”) is known as Rama IX. His name and titles are all derivates of Sanskrit words, and in fact Wikipedia gives the following translation breakdown, which I found interesting:

# Phra (“sacred,” cognate of the Indian word vara, “excellent”)
# Bat (“foot,” from Sanskrit pāda, English “foot”)
# Somdet (“lord, excellency”)
# Phra (“sacred,” cognate of the Indian word “vara”, “excellent”)
# Poraminthara (“the great,” from Sanskrit parama+indra)
# Maha (“great,” from Sanskrit, “maha”)
# Bhumibol (“Strength of the Land,” from Sanskrit bhumi+bala, “bhumi” means land and “bol” means strength)
# Adulyadej (“Incomparable power,” from Sanskrit atulya+teja, “adulya” means incomparable and “dej” means power)

Besides this, there are murtis all over Bangkok of the Lord and demigods: murtis of Visnu, Brahma, and Siva, Visnu on Garuda, Ganesa, and even Umadevi. Although they’re in public places like the front of malls and 5 star hotels, they’re not just colorful cultural additions or beautiful “statues:” people actually come and worship them. But the most popular is Lord Brahma. On one of the longest main streets in Bangkok, Sukhumvit Road, there is a beautiful golden deity of a 4-headed Lord Brahma on one corner of a large intersection. Every evening thousands of people come and worship him, offering him flowers and fruit, and praying to him. There are traditional Thai dancers also who perform nightly for Brahma: it’s a real spectacle to see.

http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/5/3/lifetravel/p20brahma.jpg

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 14, 2008 @ 3:35 pm

ccd wrote:

> There is a notion that Prabhupada wanted a western style, dome planetarium. However there is no record of > this.

I’m sorry to have to say this, but this comment is, to be blunt, daft. Surely you can’t be serious? If so, where have you been!

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 14, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

Changing the Design of the TVP: Reply to Ambarisa

It’s refreshing to see intelligence prevail in the common sense and realistic comparisons offered by Sikhi Mahiti prabhu and Syamasundara prabhu. These aren’t “opinions,” but down-to-earth and tangible realities. Thank you both for your postings.

Your servant
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 10, 2008 @ 3:49 am

My response regarding the design of the TVP

Rasasthali: While the TVP is the name of this construction, I believe the actual design is three “separate” inner sections in the temple: one the Planetarium, one the main deity chamber, and one Nrsimhadeva’s altar.

While you may not be ready to present the final Planetarium to the world, I hardly think it’s a reason to stop the entire project. Construction–when it ever finally gets off the ground–will take 6-10 yrs, realistically, and after that, I understand the work inside will be ongoing.

And what greater inspiration for you all than actually seeing the building going up….

Your servant
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 29, 2008 @ 11:52 pm

Samba, I find your comments perhaps a little in the category of “lip service.” I recall trying to discuss a planning issue with you here in Mayapur, and got nothing but a brush-off. The feeling I was left with was that it didn’t concern me, I wasn’t on the Mayapur Masterplan (whatever that is), and so what I thought didn’t count — despite having worked with the SMPDC for some years, despite knowing Ambarisa’s plans and mood quite well, despite living in Mayapur, and despite so many other factors that might give me the right to say I know a little of what I’m speaking.

And I will say to you what I said to Tattvavit pr: unless someone has spent some years here, worked with the Mayapur Project, is privy to “what Srila Prabhuapda” said moreso than those involved, or has experience in design/architecture or any other such field, then their opinion is merely an opinion. If you want to support a democratic process, then please show me anywhere that Srila Prabhupada said this was an option. Please. Anyone. Anywhere. I’m waiting.

Your servant
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 29, 2008 @ 5:43 am

PS: And a simultaneous standing ovation and full dandavats to Pusta Krishna prabhu….thank you for a most essential reminder.

Your servant
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 28, 2008 @ 2:14 pm

Tattvavit Prabhu:

This is not a democracy. Neither you nor your team of nay-sayers have a jot of experience or history with the TVP project, but have waltzed into the arena at the 11th hour bandying your opinions around—and let’s call a spade a spade: they are opinions and nothing more.

I know you are a disciple of Srila Prabhupada and have done many years of wonderful service to his mission: but not a single hour of it in this area. I doubt very much that Srila Prabhupada would even entertain your opinions on this matter. In fact, I would be inclined to think he’d say something along the lines of “Mind your own business.” From what I’ve seen of Srila Prabhupada’s written histories, purports, and spoken word, he had a trusted team of people he relied on for advice, direction, and input. He didn’t leave the most important decisions in this movement to some mundane “poll” started by people who have no history or experience with the Project.

Perhaps you might consider how to be a useful tool in the execution of Srila Prabhupada’s desire to see this Temple built, rather than yet another obstacle.

All of these things, of course, are merely my opinion….everyone has one, right? :)

your ever-humble servant :)
Braja Sevaki dd in Mayapur and yes, many of us want the temple built so Deena Bandhu is way wrong :)

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 27, 2008 @ 3:25 pm

Latest 3D Animation Model of the Vedic Planetarium Temple

Yasomati-nandana(?): One is Vivekananda. Another is Gandhi.
Prabhupada: They have spoiled India’s culture. All these… Rabindranath Tagore. All misleaders. Caitanya Mahaprabhu is the real leader, and Krishna.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Apr 5, 2008 @ 2:24 am

Akruranatha prabhu wrote: “Something about shape and arrangement of the big, wedding cake domes and their gold cupolas reminds me of political buildings like the U.S. Capitol or San Francisco’s City Hall, both beautiful buildings, but projecting more of an air of earthly political power than majestic divine harmony. I suppose I could get used to it, but it is not love at first sight for me.”

In researching the desires expressed by Srila Prabhupada for the Temple of the Vedic Planetarium, several sources were found where he specifically referred to a dome shape, and more specifically the US Capitol building, as you mention, and the Victoria Memorial in Calcutta, and in fact there are many aspects of this particular design that are more in line with Srila Prabhupada’s desires than previous designs.

your servant
Braja Sevaki dd
Mayapur

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Mar 28, 2008 @ 3:19 pm

ZOMBIE JAMBOREE

Well, that’s broken my silence :) Hilarious! Thank you Maharaja — a true summary of the nonsense that gets passed of as Vedic, yoga, spiritual, educational, or whatever. I truly had a good time reading this. As a practitioner of hatha yoga in the Iyengar tradition — without doubt the closest thing to genuine “Vaisnava yoga” — I am happy to see things exposed for what they truly are. And a good laugh is always welcome :)

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On May 25, 2007 @ 9:20 am

Krishna give us Guidance, Oh Lord we need that now

Krishna-kirti wrote:

> 2) …Your claim is that unless we’re directly witnessing the lila of Radha-Krishna,
> then we are not advanced enough to know how ISKCON should be run. If that is true,
> then how is ISKCON itself running? At present I know of no one who heads ISKCON
> and who also claims to be directly in touch with Radha-Krishna.

As Prabhupada said, “If I told you, would you believe me?”

Firstly, ISKCON isn’t “running itself.” How are you able to dismiss the entire Governing Body Commission, national management, local authorities, and individual authorities, ie: sannyasis, initiating gurus, siksa gurus, etc., and state that “ISKCON [is] running itself?” Perhaps you are running your own self, but most devotees in ISKCON have voluntarily accepted the structure of ISKCON, regardless of whether or not they think it runs perfectly.

I don’t believe that simply because you personally don’t know what an individual is experiencing in terms of their r/ship with Radha and Krishna, it means that no one is experiencing something higher than you can possibly imagine–especially when some of those individuals have been practicing seriously for 40 years. I would consider that a gross speculation, and a something of a deficit in terms of understanding this process. If someone in this movement believes that no one has yet attained a high level of Krishna consciousness, then what does it say for their faith in Srila Prabhupada, the process, scripture, the philosophy, etc.? Not much…

Your servant
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Nov 11, 2006 @ 6:06 am

A “TOUCHY” SUBJECT…

Suresh prabhu; I haven’t been following this discussion, nor have I had any intention of doing so beyond commnt # 30 or so; however someone told me you had addressed me directly, and what’s more, with an apology. So I wanted to acknowledge that and to thank you for writing. So far as I have seen, you are the only devotee here who has displayed the very attractive quality of humility, in admitting that while you accept these things are written in scripture and desired by Srila Prabhupada, you are as yet unable to observe them. As Trivikrama Swami has said, you are a Vaisnava; there is no fault in our inabilities. I could write a book on mine….

What is distressing — and actually completely unacceptable — is when devotees try to justify their inability to follow Prabhupada’s teachings, and argue pointlessly their own “opinion.” If we have difficulty in understanding or accepting, then the first quality required is the humility to accept that and to enquire submissively from advanced souls how to overcome our inabilities. I’d like very much to see this site become a forum for such exchanges, rather than a free for all where those who are opposed to Prabhupada’s teachings have “their say.”

As for your point about pure devotional service: yes, I am interested only in that. Saying so doesn’t make me pure, nor does it signify a level of advancement above the next person. I don’t possess the required adhikara to practice in such a way, but I don’t care: I’m still not giving up. My understanding is that my refusal to accept anything less — in myself more than (but also) in others — is the start. And that is what I’ve hung onto for many years. I am fully convinced I need nothing else but that faith, and in time, everything else will come.

Again, thank you for your note.

ys
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 18, 2006 @ 3:25 am

Ekendra prabhu, you wrote: “I don’t advocate homosex marraige at all but I don’t think they are totally illusioned about Srila Prabhupada’s magnamity, tolerance and compassion. Surely Srila Prabhupada was all of those things. He was also disciplined, philosophically uncompromising and cultured. Does that make him a ‘conservative’? Its hard to really steroetype him isn’t it? I’m starting to realise that its best to let Srila Prabhupada be Srila Prabhupada despite that he may contradict our limited purview.”

I like the point you’re making. I find the same thing in discussions with others about certain issues; just because Srila Prabhupada possessed the qualities of compassion, tolerance, and mercy in their perfected and absolute state doesn’t mean he abandoned the culture or watered down the philosophy to accommodate skewed western values on what constitutes those qualities. This is an important point: Prabhupada can be those things, and simultaneously purely present the philosophy and culture.

And personally, in the many discussions I’ve had with devotees, I’ve always been disappointed to learn what their understanding of compassion is. It rarely matches the Vedic version….

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 6, 2006 @ 3:02 am

It’s nice to see some people contributing who don’t normally do so, and to see some different perspectives on the sanctity of our cultural heritage, despite some others thinking that this is “petty,” or the result of the author being either abused in childhood or the product of a loveless family….Suresh prabhu, I’m sorry to shatter your theory, but neither is true — and I hope that’s something that makes you happy, not upset to be told you’re wrong :) I can understand your comparisons, but they are not the sole reason for someone objecting to this kind of thing. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that you accept there are so many reasons why I — and others here — think this is a practice that is wrong for many reasons. You can’t possibly claim that everyone who agrees here has been abused or is from a loveless family background!

Visnu prabhu, you wrote: “Can anyone actually say that Srila Prabhupada would frown on the behavior of the glorious community in Alachua, which is providing a devotional home for devotees of all different levels of development?”

No one has said that, that I’m aware of. Of course, we see from other postings by Lalita Madhava that the community might be “glorious” in some respects, but boy it sure has it’s problems. Prabhupada would no doubt be happy with the progress of Alachua in many respects. However, I’m very sure he wouldn’t approve of a lot of the things that go on there, including men and women hugging. An uneducated speculation? No. I know Prabhupada’s teachings. I don’t have to be a disciple who was sitting next to him to know how he would react to this. Your claim that anyone who comments on what Prabhupada would say today is speculating is strange: what happens to the next ten thousand years, then? It might make you feel better to have been able to ask HH Tamal Krishna Goswami what he thought Prabhupada would say, since Maharaja spent so much time with Prabhupada and, by Prabhupada’s own admission, was his “right hand.” But Maharaja is no longer present either. We might as Srutakirti prabhu, or Hari Sauri prabhu, both of whom spent so much time as his servants and could easily say what they believe Srila Prabhupada would think of such practices. But what about when they are no longer here? Are we to be stunned into uncomprehending silence? This is an absurd theory.

We are required to utilize our intelligence and maintain the purity of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings. Not adapt them to “prevailing cultures.”

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 5, 2006 @ 4:07 am

Dear Visnu prabhu, I appreciated your letter very much. It was a breath of fresh air.

I don’t agree with you that an article of this nature means someone — or some group — is “obsessed” with someone else’s behavior. Nor do I agree that we are a “sub culture” as opposed to a “culture.” Some things stand. I haven’t seen Prabhupada encouraging men and women to hug; he allowed women to do so many things within the framework of ISKCON and broke many boundaries in that sense, and in many ways was liberal in his application of the culture and philosophy. But he maintained strict standards between men and women. And his favorite, most oft-repeated phrase was “you are not this body.” No one would accuse him of being obsessed or on the bodily platform for doing so. But because I don’t have his purity, apparently those things do apply to me :) This doesn’t make sense, and in fact, speaking of backbone, it removes the entire backbone from Prabhupada’s preaching mission, claiming that one must be pure to repeat his teachings. Doesn’t make sense.

As for hugging: no, I’m not, as you say, “agitated” when I see men and women hugging :) I do, however, feel uncomfortable when a man tries to hug me, thinking that this is some open, free form of “greeting.” It’s inappropriate. I don’t have to explain any further than that: I gave an example from the Bhagavatam of the behavior of Vrajavasis. If you are trying to be anything other than a Vrajavasi, then you’ll accept that behavior that is different or separate to theirs is ok. You say it’s “part of the prevailing culture.” I thought it was clear from Srila Prabhupada’s teachings that we reject prevailing culture, and instead embrace Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s culture? And that is the culture of the Vrajavasis. And we can see from the Bhagavatam how they act. I’m not interested in your prevailing culture. Imposing that on devotees is unnatural. I find that a lot of Americans, if you’ll forgive me for being so blunt, often try to impose their prevailing culture on others; they become aggressive when their prevailing culture is challenged; they are very attached to their prevailing culture. So perhaps that might be the issue here: not that the Vaisnava culture is “inappropriate,” but is only not appropriate within the context of an unnatural American culture.

You say Ravindra Svarup prabhu states, “Srila Prabhupada was not interested in learning about or reacting to Western society or culture.” I would agree. But he carried that further: he was definitely not interested in elements of that culture being introduced into ISKCON and accepted as “the norm.” I think it’s clear to anyone what Srila Prabhupada’s view on this would be: it just requires that we sit down and honestly ask ourselves what Srila Prabhupada would say if he saw the men and women in Alachua hugging each other on greeting… it really doesn’t require much more discussion or “defense” than that.

(Glad to hear about the trees….)

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 3, 2006 @ 1:15 am

Visnu das: I am striving to become more mild. Does that mean I should let every man hug me? Your “logic” doesn’t make sense, and is somewhat over-defensive. Also, I reject your point that it’s the liberals who are striving for (basically) all the good things in ISKCON. What, so the conservatives are a crowd of people who, according to your estimation, don’t want better education, have no compassion for the with, and don’t respect the Lord’s resources? Talk about faulty logic.

I also reject your statement that hugging in public between men and women is the behavior of a “thoughtful, consenting, adult vaishnavas.” It is the behavior of someone who doesn’t respect a cultural etiquette, but wants to argue about their “rights.” You can reject it if you want, but don’t try and tell me it’s part of our culture as Vaishnavas. It simply isn’t. Show me where Prabhupada encouraged it, show me where it says it in the Bhagavatam, anything. Just show me. Read the two postings by Gadadhara prabhu above: a cultured Gujarati boy who tells us that this indeed is the culture. Despite your objections, there’s no denying it.

Nor is your statement that this is a “rare and irrelevant hypothetical situation” a valid one. Nor is it directed at teenagers. Surprisingly enough, I’ve seen better behavior from them in public than the devotees who have been around twice as long. This situation is relevant, it’s not rare, and it’s not hypothetical. Just out of curiosity, where are you from?

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 2, 2006 @ 12:33 am

Narottama prabhu: you say that Bhaktivinode Thakura and others were liberal for their times, and that Srila Prabhupada broke all the boundaries. These things are true, but not in terms of their personal behavior. I think there’s a difference in how you’re using the term “liberal” and how I’m using it. The Oxford dictionary gives one meaning of liberal as: ” open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.” We’re not interested in that translation of liberal, I think you would agree. Yet it also states as another one of it’s many translations: “broadly construed or understood; not strictly literal or exact.” So in that sense, yes, Srila Prabhupada and Bhaktivinode Thakura were liberal. If we are careful to define which meaning of liberal we are referring to, there’s no confusion. With the first meaning, such trends lead to loose behavior. The Catholic Church’s debate over contraception is one example of liberalism infecting the Christian values that object to the unnatural control of childbirth simply to indulge more in sex life. Bhaktivinode Thakura didn’t do anything to change the teachings of the acaryas, nor did Srila Prabhupada, though Prabhupada definitely opened up more in terms of an international, non-restrictive Society than before. He even said he had allowed women into the ashrams, and that was his success, that was why other maths weren’t successful and he was. He did so many things. Still he didn’t advocate men and women living together, and certainly didn’t advocate hugging or touching of men and women who weren’t related by marriage or family. We see even in the example I gave from the Bhagavatam, the Vrajavasis observed social etiquettes. So we are obliged to, and not introduce detrimental liberal practices under the guise of copying Srila Prabhupada and being more “open.”

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 1, 2006 @ 1:10 pm

Simon Kitty: I’m a little bewildered: perhaps you can explain to me how this:

“What a ridiculous statement.”
“If you werent’ so fixed on the bodily platform”

and other similar statements constitute “encouraging” language, yet you pounced on a comment that I made in a joking mood? I’d like you to explain how you see one as “not encouraging” and the other as “acceptable.” Because that seems to me like a double standard. I see a lot of that on this website, and in ISKCON in general, so I’m curious to hear your explanation. I’ve seen your explanation for other things and find it very balanced, so I thought to ask you this in an unchallenging mood.

Thanks
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Sep 1, 2006 @ 1:00 pm

nrdasa: “Will your next article be about the virtues of wearing a Burqa or maybe ISKCON starting up a vice & virtue squad?”

No, but I’d like to see them perhaps start a “philosophy and Vedic culture for dummys” to deal with responses like yours :)

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 31, 2006 @ 4:52 pm

Further Considerations…

Dear Lalita Madhava,

Let’s start at the beginning, in a genuine sense. Please accept my offered obeisances. May the glories of our founder-acarya be present in our minds always and imbue our dealings with each other with the proper intent, mood, and outcome.

Firstly, I apologize that you took my initial comment personally, about “familiarizing oneself with the teachings of our previous acaryas.” I might have said that in a different way, but it certainly wasn’t written with a particular person in mind. It is said in a general sense. Nor is it retracted. The essence remains: Prabhupada says in the Gita that one supports everything he says in a discussion with devotees with scripture. So that will always be there.

I think from this you became defensive, and so the ensuing exchanges have been wrapped in misunderstanding. But I don’t believe I deserve the venom I found present in your last posting. I feel you went far too far, it actually made me ill to read it. I felt sick to my stomach and sick at heart. Surely you can also come up to the line here and admit that this last posting went beyond what might be considered a decent limit?

So let’s call it a day. You don’t like my style, but you are not obliged to. Nor am I obliged to like yours. However we both have a common purpose, a common goal. We are in the same movement, dedicated to the same disciplic succession, and I find these dealings unnecessary.

I don’t really wish to have any further discussion than this, and definitely not in public. I really don’t even want a protracted discussion in private. I’m truly weakened by this whole exchange, and am discouraged to the extreme. I am sure you are too, and that is not the outcome anyone desires.

Your servant,
Braja Sevaki dd

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 30, 2006 @ 2:53 am

ps: Dear Lalita Madhava, I am flattered by your attention; you seem to be following me everywhere, ready to comment on my comments. Perhaps I should send you a photo and a copy of my journal so your absorption in me is a little more complete? :)

Seriously, I am sorry that my very existence seems to be such a distress to you. The bad news is that i’m not going anywhere… :)

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 29, 2006 @ 4:29 pm

Praghosa: your note about being free from lower propensities and our resulting effectiveness in preaching is a good one. Still the Gita says that every endeavor is covered by fault. It’s unfortunate that some individuals suffer from lower propensities that prevent them seeing the good, and only focus on the faults.

Nice comments also mvd. Good points.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 29, 2006 @ 3:37 pm

Nice meditations, Praghosa prabhu. As much as Srila Prabhupada defended the philosophy and became very angry even when discussing certain mayavadi tendencies, he didn’t become angry when challenged on philosophical points: rather, he became inspired to speak more and more…it encouraged him when someone argued or tried to find an “out” in the philosophy. But he certainly did get angry at them personally: “kick them on their face” is about as personal as it gets :) But that’s precisely what he was trying to show us: personalism. Not this modern day trend that, “everyone has a right to express their opinion, no matter that it is deviating from the philosophy, some see it differently.”

When debates and points of view are based on the philosophy, then there may be arguments and a great deal of back and forth, but still it’s enlivening to read. However, there should be one stipulation about dandavats.com articles and postings: the philosophy remains supreme, not the thoughts of trend-oriented individuals. If your website maintains that standard, then what is the problem….

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 27, 2006 @ 1:37 am

A little misunderstanding

ps: Madhava Gosh prabhu, my initials aren’t “BS” — as much delight as that gives you, no doubt :) Trust me, I’ve heard it all, but please, don’t insult my initiating spiritual master by reducing a very beautiful spiritual name to a well-known American shortform of a curse word, otherwise the hot sauce from Mayapur won’t be as digestible :) ….though I doubt the editors would publish it.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 29, 2006 @ 4:32 pm

Erica: Regardless of whether Madhava Gosh is a Prabhupada disciple or not, I can’t recall reading anywhere that a Madhava Gosh joined before, or was initiated before, HH Satsvarupa Mhj. Even if he did, still Maharaja’s sannyasa status makes him senior. So there is etiquette to observe with sannyasis regardless. I was also asking Madhava Gosh what his status was. The “das” is a rather important part of one’s initiated name….

Madhava Gosh: if you don’t sign your name properly, then what can be done? No “das”? Sounds just like any ordinary Indian name then. So no, I am in no position to correct you. But still if someone is being somewhat disrespectful to a sannyasi in public, I’ll speak. Don’t take it personally :) And yes I found your letter to Maharaja challenging and slightly disrespectful.

As for the other points you make: you might want to treat everyone the “same”, but you even then go on to say that you discriminate according to their behavior. So in reality you’re not treating everyone the same, are you? In one sense I can understand what you mean: “judge a man by his actions” and all that. But regardless of what you think of them, still the Vaisnava etiquette is there, it can’t be replaced with modern philosophies, can it?

And you did slightly twist my words: I didn’t say you could be disrespectful to juniors and respectful to seniors. That’s your own slant, and that’s your choice, but I don’t take responsibility for how you want to dissect my words.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 29, 2006 @ 3:51 pm

Madhava Ghosh: your tone towards one of the oldest members of this movement, a very senior Vaisnava, and a sannyasi, is disrespectful. You seem to be of the school of thought that once someone makes a mistake they should be “written off” and that they’re not fit to ever speak again or, as you slyly refer to it here, to “direct others.” There’s a whole lot you might learn about humility and perseverance from an esteemed Vaisnava like Satsvarupa Maharaja.

You might be within your rights to adopt such a smart tone with your peers (not sure who they are, since you obviously don’t have an initiated name: are you a congregational member? gurukuli? ex devotee??), but you are not at liberty — despite what you may think — to speak any way you like to a senior devotee and not expect to be taken up on it.

Keep it nice.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 28, 2006 @ 2:49 pm

Very nice letter, Maharaja. Thank you. Nice to hear a voice of compassionate reason for a change, instead of the “hang him daily” fare we’re used to being served up by a select few…

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 23, 2006 @ 12:04 am

Worried about the end of the world?

Gaurav Mittal writes:

“I hope this helps to understand what SP states. ”

It doesn’t appear the Subhadra dasi requires a purport by you to help her understand what Srila Prabhupada means: she’s understood perfectly. That’s because Srila Prabhupada’s purports are perfect, and don’t require re-explanation through someone’s faulty vision.

Thanks for your posting, Subhadra…nice realizations.

» Posted By Braja Sevaki On Aug 23, 2006 @ 12:08 am

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