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A "TOUCHY" SUBJECT…

Dear Prabhus:

PAMHO, AGTSP, and Hare Krishna.

When I was writing my comments above - Mr. N. R. Das’ comments were not there. As soon as I completed my comments and screen was refreshed - I read Mr. Das’s “RIDICULOUS” comments ridiculing Braj Sevaki Dasi.

Mr. Das does not quote any scripture - does not seem to read, comprehend, or accept the scriptural conclusions and points made by HDG Srila Prabhupada.

First thing one has to understand and accept scriptural conclusions even one may not be able to follow them.

As for Burqa culture - it is not only part of the Muslim culture - it has been part of Hindu culture as well - in different form - in at least Northern India - Gujarat, Rajasthan, UP etc. where married ladies used to cover their face completely (not just head) when going out in public - my all relatives lived that way including my 5 sisters.

Srila Prabhupada says “women’s liberation” movement is promoted by men because they want to enjoy them. Divorce rate is at 45% in USA among first time married. Mixing of men and women must have some effect for such dramatic rate of divorce.

I can be reached at gordhan_goyani@yahoo.com

Wishing You All Well,
YHS- Gadadhar Dasa

Comment Posted By Gadadhar Dasa On 31.08.2006 @ 17:04

Dear Prabhus:

PAMHO, AGTSP, and Hare Krishna.

Brah Sevaki Devi Dasi bought out some very good points in her article.

(1) we see from the examples included here that there is an observance of etiquette,
that the women embrace the women, and the men embrace the men.

Thsi is the real Vedic Culture. Even to day, Hindus observe this culture to some extent. However, it is disapearing very fast due to advent of Movies and now TVs.

I want to give personal example of how this worked. I grew up in a small village in Gujarat, India with my mother, 3 elder sisters, 2 younger sisters, and 1 younger bother. My father lived in Ahmedabad - far away from our village.

This situation of my family was ideal for the women and girls of the village to come to our house and associate with each other in the absence of any men.

Generally speaking boys will associate among themselves and girls will associate among themselves. That was the village culture. Hardly they will mix and talk except for some need to communicate.

Some times boys will be asked to go out and play or whatever so that the girls and women can freely associate in our house.

They may be sewing some thing, combing hairs of each other, may bring their vegetables to get it cut up, and gossip etc. But they felt great relief coming to our house. As such our house was always full with women and girls - particularly during noon and evenings in Summer.

When relatives came from other village then greetings will be offered - men to men, and women to women, not by hugging but by words, gestures, by hodling hands, by saying Rama Rama and men holding each other’s hand with both hands. Men and women may great both boys and girls. Once greeting part is over, men will be given a place to sit down far away from ladies - ladies may sit inside the room and men may sit outside in porch area.

Srila Prabhupada often quotes that once should not sit with one’s mother, sister, or daughter in a solitary place.

(2) Srila Prabhupada told of how, even in his day, women were very shy to see men

So in our village - conversation between men and women will be very short and for a need. The area I come from, generally a girl was not married in the same village. That kept the atmoshere in the village pure - generally no one will even think of marrying some boy or girl in the same village. So relationship among boys and girls was that of brother and sister.

However, my mother was married in the same village due to some special situation. In a villages of 300 families there were couple of exceptions like that. So many times men and boys of the village wil come to our house also. In that case ladies may disperse and go home and some times men will disperse and go home and ladies will stay.

(3) All marriages were arranged marriages:

So boy or girl had nothing to say - they were not even shown to each other - neither were they asked their opinion. It was not their freedom to find wife or husband. It was parents duty to get their children married as they saw fit.

So this also prevented even thought process of finding girl or boy and getting married. Such atmoshere is hard to imagine for those who grew up in Western Culture - where mixing of men and women starts from day one.

(4) Srimad Bhagavatam says - smaya, sanga, madaihi, anratehi - price, mxing of men and women, intoxication, and false propaganda destroy four legs of religion namely - austerity, purety, mercy, and truth respectively.

So how can we be unaffected if we mix all the time among men and women and girls and boys?

(5) Have doubts - read story of Ajamil - and all lectures given by HDG Srila Prabhupada

Here is one lecture - it should be more than sufficient to understand this matter:

http://www.prabhupadavani.org/Bhagavatam/text/529.html

I can be contacted at - gordhan_goyani@yahoo.com

Wishing You All Well,
YHS- Gadadhar Dasa

Comment Posted By Gadadhar Dasa On 31.08.2006 @ 16:37

Wheels of justice

Dear Prabhus:

PAMHO, AGTSP, and Hare Krishna.

Let us take positively what Malati Prabhu wrote such as :

“I humbly ask DDS to consider this: Right or wrong, you are wrong if you cannot hear the strong voices of recommendation that are entering the ether and the Internet. Even if you are 108% ‚Äúright,‚ÄĚ you are 100000000008% wrong if you cannot accept the voices of the devotees who are calling out loud and clear for you and the GBC to ‚Äúdo the right thing.‚ÄĚ”

If we review current situation of ISKCON, we can say following:

(1) More than 90% of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples have left ISKCON or have been driven out by “PURE DEVOTEES” as HH Jayadvaita Swami says in his letter. Also, large number of disciples of New Gurus have come and gone.

(2) BTG distribution has gone down from 1 Million a month in 1975 to almost nothing now. Also, Book Distribution has gown down as well.

(3) North American Temples have been decimated in terms of amnpower, money, preaching activities, number of devottes int the Temples etc. etc. Same is case of temples in other countries.

(4) So many ISKCON leaders - GBCs, Gurus, Sanyasis, TPs, and Sr Devotees have fallen down and have gone away or are still around.

(5) According to letter of HH Jayadvaita Swami, we have leaders - GBCs and Gurus who do not chant 16 rounds and/or do not follow regulative principles.

So wind has been so hard for last 30 years that so many devotees have left ISKCON.

So better late than never. Malati Prabhu seems to be giving some hope that let us clean up ISKCON by cleaning up ouselves - and that includes the leadership - GBCs, Gurus, Sanyasis, TPs etc. etc.

So best place to start is that as part of this cleaning up process ISKCON leaders must accept/favor “TRUTH”, value “TRUTH”, encourage/promote TRUTH.

Once this principle of TRUTH is accepted then we can hold every one accountable. But wait a minute - we are Vaishnavas - we must be better than brahmanas and brahmanas are “TRUTHFUL” even to their enemies.

So why not at least practice this principle of TRUTH and move forward.

I hope Malati Prabhu and others will dare to speak TRUTH, value TRUTH, encourage/promote TRUTH, and protect and favor TRUTH and the speakers of TRUTH .

Let us not act in a way to disgrace Srila Prabhupada.

Wishing You Well,
YHS- Gadadhar Dasa

Comment Posted By Gadadhar Dasa On 13.07.2006 @ 18:02

Dear GBC members

Dear Prabhus:

PAMHO, AGTSP, and Hare Krishna.

Madhumati Prabhu has very good idea. But ISKCON leaders have forgotten the basic point that His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada is their leader. They have this idea that they are the successors and as such they have all the wisdom.

So I suggest that they read Isaiah 59 - because most of them come from Christian background and hopefully they will feel the pulse that they have gone mad in every way they can and now it is time for repentence or sword of the justice at the hand of the Almighty Lord Shri Krishna.

So here goes Isaiah 59:

Isaiah 59
Sin, Confession and Redemption
1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save,
nor his ear too dull to hear.
2 But your iniquities have separated
you from your God;
your sins have hidden his face from you,
so that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are stained with blood,
your fingers with guilt.
Your lips have spoken lies,
and your tongue mutters wicked things.
4 No one calls for justice;
no one pleads his case with integrity.
They rely on empty arguments and speak lies;
they conceive trouble and give birth to evil.
5 They hatch the eggs of vipers
and spin a spider’s web.
Whoever eats their eggs will die,
and when one is broken, an adder is hatched.
6 Their cobwebs are useless for clothing;
they cannot cover themselves with what they make.
Their deeds are evil deeds,
and acts of violence are in their hands.
7 Their feet rush into sin;
they are swift to shed innocent blood.
Their thoughts are evil thoughts;
ruin and destruction mark their ways.
8 The way of peace they do not know;
there is no justice in their paths.
They have turned them into crooked roads;
no one who walks in them will know peace.
9 So justice is far from us,
and righteousness does not reach us.
We look for light, but all is darkness;
for brightness, but we walk in deep shadows.
10 Like the blind we grope along the wall,
feeling our way like men without eyes.
At midday we stumble as if it were twilight;
among the strong, we are like the dead.
11 We all growl like bears;
we moan mournfully like doves.
We look for justice, but find none;
for deliverance, but it is far away.
12 For our offenses are many in your sight,
and our sins testify against us.
Our offenses are ever with us,
and we acknowledge our iniquities:
13 rebellion and treachery against the LORD,
turning our backs on our God,
fomenting oppression and revolt,
uttering lies our hearts have conceived.
14 So justice is driven back,
and righteousness stands at a distance;
truth has stumbled in the streets,
honesty cannot enter.
15 Truth is nowhere to be found,
and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey.
The LORD looked and was displeased
that there was no justice.
16 He saw that there was no one,
he was appalled that there was no one to intervene;
so his own arm worked salvation for him,
and his own righteousness sustained him.
17 He put on righteousness as his breastplate,
and the helmet of salvation on his head;
he put on the garments of vengeance
and wrapped himself in zeal as in a cloak.
18 According to what they have done,
so will he repay
wrath to his enemies
and retribution to his foes;
he will repay the islands their due.

I hope that after reading this they will get together and compose some truthful prayers, get down to their knees (this may be hard for the infallible leaders because they have been used to getting others down to their knees) and offer their prayers to Lord Krishna.

Now if they can not compose some thing reasonable, honest, and truthful then they can use Isaiah 59 - part of it - for their prayers.

Good luck.

Wishing You All Weel,
YHS - Gadadhar Dasa

Comment Posted By Gadadhar Dasa On 28.06.2006 @ 21:49

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