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All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
This sounds wonderful and quite attractive. I have a few questions:
What is the population of the metropolitan area?
Are there any colleges close by and what is their student population.
Please define “liberal-minded” Vaisnavas.
Jivananda dasa Vnancari ACBSP
» Posted By Jivananda dasa On Jan 22, 2008 @ 3:29 pm
Hare Krishna to all.
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Please forgive my ignorance but I have not read anything yet that supports the teaching of these non-sastra courses. The teachings from Srila Prabhupada’s books are purely spiritual and, therefore, transcendental. Teachings of Western philosophy are material and mundane even when taught by a devotee.
I do not remember Srila Prabhupada ever encouraging us to study these mundane teachings. How can these teachings help us solve ISKCON’s problems. How can one solve siritual problems with material solutions?
How can these teachings help us in our preaching efforts? Will we impress others with our knowledge of Western philosophy and therefore help them to take to Krishna Consciousness? I always thought that we had to give them spiritual knowledge as taught in Srila Prabhupada’s books to elevate the fallen conditioned souls.
Rather than spend our energy teaching these mundane courses why not devote that energy to teaching more spiritual courses. Do we already have enough teaching of Srila Prabhupada’s books? Can we ever have enough?
The question “Why you want to force others to do things your way?” baffles me. Why should anyone consider that they are being “forced” to study Srila Prabhupada’s teachings and why would they feel “denied” when his teachings are promoted and material teachings are suppressed?
We have an entire movement that is in deep need of more of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings so that we can in turn spread it to the fallen conditioned souls of this material world who are in even greater need of these teachings. We have not been authorized to learn and spread this mundane philosophy. We have been deputised to fully absorb Srila Prabhupada’s teachings and to spread it to every town and villiage.
Aren’t our brains already full of enough material mundane knowledge? If we are to fully absorb ourselves in transcentental knowledge how can we find time and brain cells to absorb this material knowledge? And for what? How does this help us to become more knowledgeble in Vaisnava philosophy and how does it help us to spread Srila Prabhupada’s teachings?
Again, I must appologise for my ignorance. Could someone please open these darkened eyes? Please give me the understanding that I cannot find here.
Your humble servant,
Jivananda dasa Vanacari ACBSP
» Posted By Jivananda dasa On Jan 27, 2008 @ 5:17 pm
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My humble obeisances to all the Vaisnavas. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.
To Mother Gopal Dasi I would respectfully like to say “Please get with the spirit of San Kirtan”. I say this because your assumption that distributing Srila Prabhupada’s books on these properties is illegal is completely wrong. Rather than speculating that we are in the wrong I called my attourney (a very good attourney at that) to get his educated opinion on this particlar point. His advice is as follows:
Since Walmart, other retailers and malls, etc. spend tens of thousands of dollars monthly inviting the public (which includes the devotees of Lord Krishna) to come to their facilities it cannot be legally construed in anyway that we come there as trespassers. We are invited to come there and to exclude us would be discrimination.
Once we get there, however, we are requird to abide by their rules. Therefore, if we are asked to refrain from solicitation we must comply. Up until this point no crime has been commited. At the point that we are discovered and asked to stop is the magic moment. At that point if we comply with thier request, NO CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITED. If, however, we do not comply we could be guilty of trespass and the security person could call the local authorities and turn the situation over to them.
The moral of the story: DON’T COMMIT THE CRIME – CEASE AND DISIST WHEN ASKED TO DO SO.
I am a full time book distributor and I have had first hand experience at this procedure. If discovered by security I have always been POLITELY asked to stop usually accompanied with an appology from the security officer for having to inform me to do so. I always respond in a gentlemanly fashion, shakes his (or her) hand and leave at once only to go on to another spot. That is how it works – it really is just that simple. This is the “real world” of book distribution.
Please so not assume that simply because we are (as Srila Prabhupada has called us) the Hare Krishna People that we are doing something wrong by distributing the books that Srila Prabhupada has given us. When we are engaged in San Kirtan we are doing the right thing even if there is some test from Krishna to struggle to do so. The end result is truly Transcendental Bliss along with the feeling that we are pleasing Srila Prabhupada by following his instruction of “distribute my books, distribute my books, distribute my books”.
Please rethink your response and please do not let this question of legality become another “I can’t go out on San Kirtan because…” excuse. Let us all work together to eliminate all excuses why we cannot do San Kirtan and explore reasons why we all should do so.
Jivananda dasa Vanacari ACBSP
» Posted By Jivananda dasa On Jun 19, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
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