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This was an outrage of no mean proportion. These people knew full well how we feel about cows and in particular how we were lovingly treating poor Gangotri. They came in with a cluster of policemen knowing exactly how we would likely react to their intended execution by lethal injection. They cared not one jot about our feelings, beliefs or anything. They said one thing and did another. Their claim to respect others’ beliefs was revealed for what it actually was, mere empty words. As far as they are concerned they can waltz right in and kill our beloved cows right under our noses. All in the name of compassion – – and that coming from a group that happily endorses the unspeakable killing methods of other faiths simply for food. A group whose members mostly eat animal flesh from the slaughterhouse every day. Such persons would presume to give us lessons in morality, effectively telling us that we do not know how to be compassionate and caring. As Keshava Krishna prabhu rightly says, we have a long way to go to “normalise” people’s perception of actual welfare. A long, long way.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Dec 17, 2007 @ 12:35 pm
My wife Cintamani and I, who both spent a number of years serving with Sanjaya prabhu, are deeply saddened by his sudden departure. We remember him as a gentle and kind hearted soul, completely dedicated to Srila Prabhupada. Surely he has attained an all-auspicious destination. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family at this very difficult time for them.
“As a player sets up and disperses his playthings according to his own sweet will, so the supreme will of the Lord brings men together and separates them.” SB 1.13.43
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Nov 23, 2007 @ 9:11 am
There are quite a few other translated English bhajans on my website (linked from the Dandavats home page) and I will add more from time to time.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Oct 29, 2007 @ 7:43 am
re comment 43
I think we should be cautious about charging for our programmes. As I understand it, this is always forbidden. Among other such statements, Srila Prabhupada writes:
Professional reciters may ask money to extinguish the blazing fire within their bellies, but they cannot make any spiritual improvement or become perfect. It is therefore strictly forbidden to recite Srimad-Bhagavatam as a profession to earn a livelihood. Only one who is completely surrendered at the lotus feet of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, depending fully on Him for personal maintenance or even for maintenance of his family, can attain perfection by recitation of Srimad-Bhagavatam, which is full of narrations of the pastimes of the Lord and His devotees. The process can be summarized as follows: the audience must be faithfully receptive to the Bhagavata message, and the reciter should completely depend on the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Bhagavata recitation must not be a business. If done in the right way, not only does the reciter achieve perfect satisfaction, but the Lord also is very satisfied with the reciter and the audience, and thus both are liberated from material bondage simply by the process of hearing. SB 4.12.49-50
We cannot charge, but of course dakshine is another thing. All donations gratefully received. :)
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Jun 9, 2007 @ 8:53 am
While I appreciate the many good points made here about the necessity of virtue, I believe the episode concerning Dharmavyadha (the “just slayer”) who was supposed to be a butcher is a Buddhist interpolation in the Mahabharata. As Sri Madhvacarya points out in his Mahabharata Tatparya Nirnaya, the text has been considerably distorted over the years, and stories about butchers’ shops are highly suspect. As well as this, there are contemporary scholars such as Hiltebeitel who suggest this story is interpolated.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On May 18, 2007 @ 7:20 am
Generally we observe fasting up till the time the Lord actually appeared, which in Rama’s case was midday. Any reason why the fast is till sunset? (apart of course for the excellent reason that Srila Prabhupada so requested – but why is it done?)
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Mar 25, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Really nice points. Thank you prabhu.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Feb 24, 2007 @ 2:25 pm
The argument that a pizza is a self-realized capati got a lot of laughs.
And there was me thinking it was a blooped samosa…
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Feb 14, 2007 @ 7:58 am
I think that the idea of “Succession and leadership training” is very important. Naturally most of the leaders chosen to attend this training will have some ksatriya tendencies.
This is an interesting point. Is it a fact that ISKCON’s leaders will or even should have ksatriya tendencies? As Maharaja goes on to say, they will be “going out as teachers and preachers.” Presumably they will also be TP’s and the like. Are not all of these roles brahminical? Temple leaders or presidents are traditionally ‘mahants’, i.e. brahmanas. And the business of temples is, one would hope, decidedly brahminical. As I understand it, brahmin communities also have their leaders, but these are not ksatriyas.
I would suggest this goes to the heart of defining what is ISKCON, which must surely be the first step in drawing up any constitution. Just what is the movement meant to be? Is it a movement of brahmanas, meant to (eventually) lead the rest of society, or will it actually comprise the totality of society, complete with all orders of life? There are statements from Srila Prabhupada that could lend support to either notion.
“Although the Krsna consciousness movement is a movement of brahmanas and Vaisnavas, it is trying to reestablish the divine varnasrama institution, for without this division of society there cannot be peace and prosperity anywhere.” SB 7.11.18-20
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Feb 14, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
This is inspiring. Key issues here, for sure. Looks like some momentous discussions are getting underway. Let’s pray that the Lord gives us all the intelligence to actually get something together for Srila Prabhupada’s pleasure.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Feb 12, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
What are the exceptional circumstances in which a faithful disciple may oppose his guru? When, if ever, can “submissive inquiry” from the guru be legitimately replaced by “challenging”? This seems to be the most important question raised by the preface.
Without wanting to comment on the situation between the author of this piece and his guru, about which I know nothing, it does seem to me that the phenomenon of disciples having a problem with gurus, and indeed vice versa, is not isolated. Perhaps though both parties could better avoid this embarrassment if there was some effective examination occurring. The Lord has instructed ‘guru lakshana, sishya lakshana, donhara parikshana’ (Mad 24.330) which Sanatana has expanded in the HBV as the direction for guru and disciple to reside together for “at least one year.” (1.73). (Citing the Krama Dipika, he says in one place (1.78) that the disciple should serve the guru for three years prior to diksha). Srila Prabhupada has duly presented this in his books, but current circumstances are such that the disciple rarely resides with the guru, as the HBV recommends. Thus very little actual examination takes place. Over the period of one year there is often not much association at all between the two parties. This problem is further exacerbated by our current system of ‘guru approval’, which tends to leave prospective disciples thinking there is little need to rigorously examine their chosen guru, as they believe the GBC have already done so. And whatever examination is done is often on the basis of flimsy external criteria, rather than the extensive items listed in HBV. On top of that, the current ISKCON system also allows for gurus to accept disciples on the basis of third party recommendations, even further reducing necessary contact. All in all, we leave ourselves wide open to the problem of disenchantment occurring somewhere down the line after initiation, when the serious mutual examination, which should have happened prior to diksha, actually does take place.
Just a few thoughts…
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Jan 26, 2007 @ 9:49 am
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
While I have a 30 minute window between ‘Dad’s taxi’ duties, cooking the evening offering and writing an article I thought I should clarify what I was trying to say. Forgive me for being brief, and for not providing all the relevant quotes.
Dayananda prabhu wrote: ‘ The process of bhakti-yoga begins with karma-yoga. Your suggestion that sadhana-bhakti will solve all problems without karma-yoga, which is sacrificing money for sankirtana, does not yield the desired results for householders–advancement in Krishna consciousness’
If by karma yoga you mean varnashrama, in which charity is a householder’s duty, then yes, I do agree. We have both constitutional and conditional duties, as explained in the Gita. But the latter are only a support for the former, as far as I understand. It is the constitutional duties of hearing and chanting that are actually liberating. My point was simply that we do not do enough hearing and chanting, as far as I have seen, especially as householders. I would say this is more of a problem than the fact that they do not go out to sell books. Preaching should surely be a natural overflowing of one’s own Krishna consciousness. If we are happy and fulfilled in KC then we will naturally want to share that with others.
Dayananda prabhu wrote: ‘Your suggestion that “getting out there” will make someone dry up and die is unfortunate. As householders we “get out there” to make a living. We are supposed to work hard and self-sacrifice for our families. If we do not “get out there” and self-sacrifice for Krishna, then we’ve neglected our spiritual dharma.’
My point here was simply that there should be more emphasis on maintaining devotees. Prabhupada said this was more important than making new devotees. Of course we have to work hard and sacrifice, but let’s also take care of each other as best we can by good sadhu sanga. In the Gita (16.1), Prabhupada writes that it is the duty of sannyasis to preach to householders. In the seventies he was stressing to ISKCON leaders that their main duty was to look after the KC of existing devotees, rather than go out and make more. “What good are many, many devotees if none of them are knowledgeable?” he said. (I can provide all the quotes for the above, or you can view them on my website at http://www.krishnadharma.com/sadhu-sanga)
Dayananda prabhu wrote: ‘Regarding your first quote from SB 7.14, Prabhupada is paraphrasing the five kinds of yajnas that Manu prescribes in Manu samhita (3.67-74). The Vedas and dharma sastra emphasize that household life is based on yajna. Prabhupada comments more fully on the five yajnas in his SB lecture 6.3.25-26 Gorakhpur Feb 18, 1971, and his purports of SB 6.2.11 and SB 8.14.6. According to the teachings of Mahaprabhu, the five traditional yajnas should be performed within the broader context of sankirtana-yajna.’
I understand that Prabhupada has ‘Krishna-ised’ the pancha-suna here. But the emphasis is on deity worship and prasadam distribution. This seems to be the main tenor of his instructions for householders throughout his books, as far as I have seen. In one place he even says that in Kali yuga it is not possible to give money in charity and therefore we should distribute prasadam. (Prabhupada writes: “’In this age, distribution of prasadam has replaced distribution of money. No-one has sufficient money to distribute, but if we distribute Krsna-prasadam as far as possible, this is more valuable than the distribution of money”. (SB 4.9.24).
And here’s one about deity worship.
Prabhupada writes: “Especially for householder devotees who are opulent in material possessions, the path of Deity worship is strongly recommended. An opulent householder devotee who does not engage his hard-earned money in the service of the Lord is called a miser…. An opulent householder can collect luxurious paraphernalia for Deity worship, and consequently for householder devotees the worship of the Deity is compulsory. In our Krsna consciousness movement there are brahmacaris, grhasthas, vanaprasthas and sannyasis, but the Deity worship in the temple should be performed especially by the householders. The brahmacaris can go with the sannyasis to preach, and the vanaprasthas should prepare themselves for the next status of renounced life, sannyasa. Grhastha devotees, however, are generally engaged in material activities, and therefore if they do not take to Deity worship, their falling down is positively assured.” SB 7.5.23-24
Many such instructions are there. See SB 2.3.22 for example.
Dayananda prabhu wrote: ‘Your opinion that “direct preaching and book distribution” be relegated to renunciants will lead to a religion that is not Mahaprabhu’s religion. He sent Nityananda Prabhu to Bengal to preach as a householder (Cc Madhya 16.64-65). Prabhupada writes that we should follow in the footsteps of Nityananda Prabhu, and preach like Him.’
Sure. But his instruction to the Kurma Brahmin was to stay at home and preach to “whoever he met”, which I think is Akruranath prabhu’s suggestion. “Amara ajnaya guru…” We should all become guru, but again, in my view this begins at home. Preach to our family members first, hear and chant together, as Prabhupada directs. Then if we can get extended families and communities doing sankirtana together, so much the better. But right now we face the nuclear family situation and we have to deal with that as best we can.
Surely householders can go out on harinam and books, (a grhastha won the Xmas marathon here in the UK) but in my experience most find this difficult. And many of them are struggling in their own KC, finding the temples and even ISKCON as a whole an increasing irrelevance to them. They need help, and in my humble opinion the first thing is to get their own KC on track. Householders have to be independently thoughtful, as you say, and realise that they can nicely practice KC in their own homes. They are their own best sankirtana partners – husbands and wives together can hear and chant, and maybe even get the kids to join in (good luck). This will surely form a solid basis for everything else you envision, i.e. grhasthas going out to preach and sell books (in between taxi duties, of course :-)
Anyway, these are just a few humble views from a conditioned soul, my admittedly less than perfect understanding of Srila Prabhupada. I appreciate your comments, but felt I needed to clarify as you had misunderstood me (my fault, I admit)
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Jan 21, 2007 @ 9:25 am
Dayananda and Akruranath prabhus, I appreciate your comments. Thank you. I don’t have time to respond fully at present (sunk in the well :-) but will try later if possible.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Jan 19, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Thank You Dayananda prabhu. I do agree that giving charity is an important duty for householders. In this connection Srila Prabhupada writes:
[quote]Factually, according to the instructions of Srimad-Bhagavatam, every grhastha is a great communist who provides the means of living for everyone. Whatever a grhastha may possess he should equally distribute to all living entities, without discrimination. The best process is to distribute prasada. A grhastha should not be very much attached to his wife; he should engage even his own wife in serving a guest with all attention. Whatever money a grhastha accumulates by the grace of God he should spend in five activities, namely worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead, receiving Vaisnavas and saintly persons, distributing prasada to the general public and to all living entities, offering prasada to his forefathers, and also offering prasada to his own self. Grhasthas should always be ready to worship everyone as mentioned above. SB 7.14 Summary[/quote]
We find this instruction frequently, i.e. that householders should distribute prasadam in order to maintain the rest of society. I would suggest that direct preaching and book distribution is more appropriate for the renuniciates. (Also, although you suggest that using one’s wealth for deity worship at home is “second rate”, in the above statement Srila Prabhupada lists it as the first important item for householders)
While discussing sankirtana yajna Prabhupada says the following:
[quote]At the present moment, however, almost all forms of sacrifice are not at all possible; therefore, it is recommended in the sastras that people should perform sankirtana-yajna. Any householder, regardless of his position, can perform this sankirtana-yajna without expenditure. All the family members can sit down together and simply clap their hands and chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra. Somehow or other, everyone can manage to perform such a yajna and distribute prasada to the people in general. That is quite sufficient for this age of Kali. The Krsna consciousness movement is based on this principle: chant the Hare Krsna mantra at every moment, as much as possible, both inside and outside of the temples, and, as far as possible, distribute prasada. SB 4.12.10[/quote]
Here he says that chanting together and distributing prasadam is “quite sufficient.” IMHO, we do not do enough hearing and chanting together as householders. Our grhastha ashrama is struggling and perhaps this is a main reason. Charity begins at home. In my view we must begin by getting our own Krishna consciousness together, particularly as a family. Husbands and wives can do sankirtana together by hearing and chanting together, along with their children.
[quote]The best process for making the home pleasant is Krsna consciousness. If one is in full Krsna consciousness, he can make his home very happy, because this process of Krsna consciousness is very easy. One need only chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, accept the remnants of foodstuffs offered to Krsna, have some discussion on books like Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam, and engage oneself in Deity worship. These four things will make one happy. One should train the members of his family in this way. The family members can sit down morning and evening and chant together Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Bg 13.8-12
Householders are not trained in this way, in my experience. In fact little or no training at all is usually the case, and devotees often enter grhastha ashram ill prepared, with tragic results. If we want more out of our householders then maybe we need to put more into them. They need help and support, especially in the matter of keeping their KC together. Often though our focus is on getting out there and doing bigger, bringing in more people, while the people we already have simply dry up and die. How then can they even think of helping others?
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Jan 19, 2007 @ 9:58 am
It is wonderful that you are able to give 50%, Dayananda prabhu. Most grhasthas I know are flummoxed on this one. “If I give half my income I won’t be able to even pay my rent!” is a typical response. But how should we understand this? Does giving 50% for the KC movement mean giving it to other devotees, e.g. a TP or sannyasi, so they can use it in Krishna’s service? Or could it mean engaging laxmi in KC activities such as home deity worship, visiting the dhama, buying and distributing books oneself, distributing prasad, etc? Should we first give half our income away to someone else, and then try to do whatever KC things we can with whatever we have left, or can we count such activities within the 50% charity? How should this principle be applied, in your opinion prabhu?
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Jan 15, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
“I want to know the mind of God. Everything else is just detail.” Einstein (not bad for a complete atheist :-)
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Jan 2, 2007 @ 10:01 pm
“Technology is a way of organising the universe so we do not have to experience it.” Max Frisch
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Dec 30, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
Good points here. TV is asat sanga of the worst type. But it’s a hard thing to give up, even when this is known. One devotee I know who has a TV had a notice stuck to the screen, “Do not turn me on. Remember last time? How you wasted so many hours and ended up feeling lousy?” Still he carefully peeled off the sign and glued himself to the screen instead. It’s a question of taste and attraction – in the absence of taste and attraction for the Lord we will be drawn to his energy. Even if we kick out the goggle box we will simply transfer our attention elsewhere, to internet browsing, socialising, politicking, or a myriad of other timewasting but nevertheless alluring activities. We simply must cultivate a higher taste by serious and assiduous practise of hearing and chanting. Of course, some restraint must be there – vishaya vinivartante…- but if we do not make it our main business to cultivate Vasudeva katha ruchi we will be dragged down again – and again.
One enjoyable practise I have discovered is to have sastra discussions with others. I have a large number of quotes about the value of this practise on my website at http://www.krishnadharma.com/sadhu-sanga. There is also a paper discussing some useful discussion techniques which may be helpful, at http://www.krishnadharma.com/hearing.htm
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Dec 25, 2006 @ 1:43 pm
Thanks for the heads up prabhu – yes, it’s a mess out there. Food and water totally contaminated, even the air we breathe increasingly filled with pollutants and radiation of all kinds. The media barons constantly shape the way we think with their stream of “news”, opinions and “expert analysis”. Then there is the advertising industry. Crime, substance abuse, depression and disease stats are going through the roof. So many demons wreaking havoc. The dogs are having their day for sure. Atheistic propaganda abounds – “The God Delusion” being the latest bestseller to mislead the poor people into further ignorance and suffering. It’s a good time to preach, and it’s going to get even better it seems, at least for the forseeable future :(
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Dec 24, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
Oh what a bunch of sceptics! Why, soon we will be “colonising the moon”. It must be true because the brainiest man in the world, Stephen Hawking, has said so :-)
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Dec 13, 2006 @ 8:56 pm
Sadhu Sadhu – what a great story.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Dec 5, 2006 @ 1:18 pm
The Kazakh authorities have chosen a bad time for this atrocity. They are presently trying to counter the adsverse publicity for their country generated by the film ‘Borat’, which parodies them to great humorous effect and which has been a huge worldwide success. In fact this is a perfect hook for a story if anyone has any media contacts. Get this one out to them asap.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Nov 22, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
. This seems to be the main point of contention that they have with us. According to their understanding they are in a very favorable situation. The are young, intelligent, coming from a good family and country, with a very bright future. They question how we can imply or state that we are in a miserable condition?
Madness, for sure. Every endeavour we make is about fighting against some unwanted condition — ignorance, hunger, thirst, heat, cold, disease, old age, etc, and finally death. Nor do we ever succeed in winning that fight (until we surrender to Krishna).
But let’s not be morbid, eh? You have to take the rough with the smooth, keep your chin up and smile. We’re getting there. Scientists will have it all worked out soon – won’t they?
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Dec 6, 2006 @ 10:49 am
What a great article. It would be nice, however, to explain to the readers that the article was written almost 30 years ago by a devotee who has disappeared without a trace.
Gone to the great feast in the sky, no doubt. :)
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Nov 22, 2006 @ 5:35 pm
I agree with Japa Jim that managerial authority in ISKCON cannot be separated from spiritual authority. After all we are a spiritual movement and all our activities should surely be on the spiritual platform. Prabhupada writes:
In our preaching work also, we deal with so much property and money and so many books bought and sold, but because these dealings all pertain to the Krsna consciousness movement, they should never be considered material. That one is absorbed in thoughts of such management does not mean that he is outside of Krsna consciousness. If one rigidly observes the regulative principle of chanting sixteen rounds of the maha-mantra every day, his dealings with the material world for the sake of spreading the Krsna consciousness movement are not different from the spiritual cultivation of Krsna consciousness. SB 5.16.3
And he also indicated that the GBC should act in a spiritual role on numerous occasions, such as this one:
This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This I want. Letter to: Madhudvisa: — Detroit 4 August, 1975
He made it clear that the main job of the GBC is spiritual training:
You mention you like to speak now very often, but the first business should be to preach to the devotees. It is better to maintain a devotee than to try to convince others to become devotees. It is the duty of the GBC to maintain the devotees, keep them in the highest standard of Krishna Consciousness, and give them all good instruction, and let them go out and preach for making more devotees. Your first job should be to make sure that every one of the devotees in your zone of management is reading regularly our literatures and discussing the subject matter seriously from different angles of seeing, and that they are somehow or other absorbing the knowledge of Krishna Consciousness philosophy. If they are fully educated in our philosophy and if they can get all of the knowledge and study it from every viewpoint, then very easily they will perform tapasya or renunciation and that will be their advancement in Krishna Consciousness. So first thing is to instruct all of your temple presidents and the other devotees to read daily, just as we have done in our morning class in Los Angeles. You may remember that we were reading one sloka each morning in Sanskrit and reciting it altogether and then discussing it thoroughly by seeing different new things. So you introduce this system and train the devotees first. Don’t be too much concerned for the time being with nondevotees, now we must fix-up what devotees we have got in the knowledge of Krishna Consciousness, then we will succeed. What good are many, many devotees if none of them are knowledgeable? Letter to: Satsvarupa — Los Angeles 16 June, 1972
There are numerous such instructions. It seems our ethos should be education and empowerment, rather than control and legislation, as the following suggests:
Simply enforcing laws and ordinances cannot make the citizens obedient and lawful. That is impossible. Throughout the entire world there are so many states, legislative assemblies and parliaments, but still the citizens are rogues and thieves. Good citizenship, therefore, cannot be enforced; the citizens must be trained. As there are schools and colleges to train students to become chemical engineers, lawyers or specialists in many other departments of knowledge, there must be schools and colleges to train students to become brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas, sudras, brahmacaris, grhasthas, vanaprasthas and sannyasis. This will provide the preliminary condition for good citizenship (varnasrama-gunan-vitah). SB 9.10.50
A cultural movement for the respiritualisation of society – this is the vision. Not that we have to be the whole society ourselves, complete with so many laws and procedures and the like. Some systems and management, of course, but not too much, that is how I understand it. Prabhupada said,
Krishna Consciousness Movement is for training men to be independently thoughtful and competent in all types of departments of knowledge and action, not for making bureaucracy. Once there is bureaucracy the whole thing will be spoiled. There must be always individual striving and work and responsibility, competitive spirit, not that one shall dominate and distribute benefits to the others and they do nothing but beg from you and you provide. No. Never mind there may be botheration to register each centre, take tax certificate each, become separate corporations in each state. That will train men how to do these things, and they shall develop reliability and responsibility, that is the point. Letter to: Karandhara — Bombay 22 December, 1972
Training and education comes up again and again in Prabhupada’s instructions. That surely has to be our prime function. That is our first purpose as given by Prabhupada:
To systematically propagate spiritual knowledge to society at large and to educate all peoples in the techniques of spiritual life in order to check the imbalance of values in life and to achieve real unity and peace in the world. (First Purpose, Seven Purposes of ISKCON, Incorporation document, 1966)
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Nov 4, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
Thank you mataji. Very inspiring. We need such role models as yourself and your good husband if our hopes for varnashrama are ever to be realised. Family is the very basis of society and, as Arjuna pointed out in the Gita, when it is destroyed then everything goes to hell.
One thing I would add from my own 22 years in blissful grhastha ashrama is that having a daily sadhana program together is most helpful. The family that prays together stays together, as they say. Srila Prabhupada says:
“The best process for making the home pleasant is Krsna consciousness. If one is in full Krsna consciousness, he can make his home very happy, because this process of Krsna consciousness is very easy. One need only chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, accept the remnants of foodstuffs offered to Krsna, have some discussion on books like Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam, and engage oneself in Deity worship. These four things will make one happy. One should train the members of his family in this way. The family members can sit down morning and evening and chant together Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. If one can mold his family life in this way to develop Krsna consciousness, following these four principles, then there is no need to change from family life to renounced life.” Bg 13.8-12
Hearing and chanting together spiritualises the relationship and keeps Krishna in the centre, as well as giving us the spiritual intelligence (dadami buddhi yogam..) to work through our issues. I think this, more than anything, has kept my wife and me (almost) sane as we struggled to raise our three wonderful children, and at the same time run a small preaching centre in the middle of nowhere, with no other association. Our teenage children are also grateful now that we included them in our home program, although at the time it was difficult for both them and us.
Sri Krishna sankirtana ki jaya!
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Nov 1, 2006 @ 9:37 am
Haribol Mahavidya prabhu. I meant that I have no influence in managerial decisions. Classes are another thing (and mine certainly have no influence :). My personal opinion is that Srila Prabhupada is very pleased with the overall success at the Manor. Of course there are problems and things that need changing and improving, but in my view it is doing some wonderful preaching and the devotees serving there are making many great sacrifices. Perhaps your view is different and that’s fine. We are all individuals with differing perspectives.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Oct 24, 2006 @ 2:54 pm
Well, you have my humble opinion, Mahavidya prabhu, for whatever it may be worth. I can only suggest you take up your concerns with the Manor management, of which I am no part. I have no influence there at all, I am afraid. I am just a humble writer and I, like you, want only that the glories of Krishna and his pure devotee Srila Prabhupada be spread far and wide. Certainly the Manor is doing much in this regard, but again I do not deny that there are issues.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Oct 23, 2006 @ 7:22 pm
I don’t want to minimise your concerns, Mahavidya prabhu. All I wanted to do was point out what I perceive to be the positive effects of the Manor being seen as a major Hindu shrine. However, I agree that Srila Prabhupada made it clear we are not meant to establish Hindu temples. But I am not sure that this is what the Manor is trying to do. From the late seventies onward the Manor has grown in popularity among the Hindu community even though it has never been overtly advertised as a Hindu temple. Generally devotees – just like yourself — are at pains to point out how we are “not Hindus”, but despite this attempt the perception continues. None of our own literature presents the Manor as a Hindu temple. I have personally been involved in writing much outreach propaganda and, except in certain rare cases to specific publics, I never refer to the Manor or any other temple as a Hindu shrine. Current news releases refer to the Manor as the ‘Bhaktivedanta Hare krishna Temple’.
It could be argued that the temple caters to Hindus to the exclusion of other sections of the community, but different people seem to have different experiences. Mine has always been good, but I recognise that there are many others, maybe like yourself, who feel differently. These are issues that perhaps need to be addressed, but I also think we should recognise the positive things that are happening.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Oct 22, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
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This was great preaching by the Manor (and the Hindu Forum of UK who organised the event). Cameron could well become the next leader here in the UK. He heard the holy name, took prasadam, saw the deities and even had Lord Rama’s shoes placed on his head as he bowed before the altar. The ‘Hindu’ debate rages on, but in my view the Manor is making some incredible headway in raising our positive profile. They are generally referred to as ‘Bhaktivedanta Manor Hare Krishna Temple’ and are positioned as the main Hindu shrine in the UK and possibly even Europe. Cameron chose to visit the Manor in pereference to another large temple in London.
The Manor’s position as the main shrine opens so many preaching doors that we would not otherwise get to see from a distance. OK, there are some theology issues with the pantheism, polytheism and all that, and of course we are not a religion in the traditionally understood sense, but we can gradually counter these misapprehensions with our messages, gradually asserting our own integrity. Sometimes one has to take a branch from a tree to make an axe to cut it down.
» Posted By Krishna Dharma On Oct 21, 2006 @ 12:02 pm
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