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Mother Vishakha Priya, Hope these help. I have listed them to also remind me of the prescribed duties without attachment and desire for the results and performing them for the satisfaction of the Supreme Lord.
These devine words of the Supreme Lord are very purifying and always relishable and contain newer and newer meanings.
Thank you very much
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Dec 1, 2010 @ 7:55 am
Vishakha Priya Mataji wrote comment 18, “So why should they surrender to inferior beings just because their external dress is male? After all, these male and female bodies are temporary designations and they change from one life to the next”
As long as we are in the women’s body, we need to follow the rules layed down for that body, as much as the police offer has to follow the rules of the dress he is wearing. A doctor has to follow the rules of his uniform, an army officer his rules.
BG 3.35: It is far better to discharge one’s prescribed duties, even though faultily, than another’s duties perfectly. Destruction in the course of performing one’s own duty is better than engaging in another’s duties, for to follow another’s path is dangerous.
BG 2.33: If, however, you do not perform your religious (duty of fighting), then you will certainly incur sins for neglecting your duties.
This allies to all the embodied beings my dear mother Vishakha Priya.
BG 2.38: Do thou fight for the sake of fighting, without considering happiness or distress, loss or gain, victory or defeat — and by so doing you shall never incur sin.
Purpoert – That everything should be performed for the sake of Kṛṣṇa is transcendental consciousness; so there is no reaction to material activities.
BG 2.47: You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty. Therefore, fighting as a matter of duty was the only auspicious path of salvation for Arjuna.
Purport: – Prescribed duties are activities enjoined in terms of one’s acquired modes of material nature.
BG 2.48: Perform your duty equipoised, O Arjuna, abandoning all attachment to success or failure. Such equanimity is called yoga.
BG.2.51 Purport:Service for the cause of the Lord is called karma-yoga or buddhi-yoga, or in plain words, devotional service to the Lord.
BG 3.5: Everyone is forced to act helplessly according to the qualities he has acquired from the modes of material nature; therefore no one can refrain from doing something, not even for a moment.
BG 3.8: Perform your prescribed duty, for doing so is better than not working. One cannot even maintain one’s physical body without work.
BG 3.9: Work done as a sacrifice for Viṣṇu has to be performed, otherwise work causes bondage in this material world. Therefore, O son of Kuntī, perform your prescribed duties for His satisfaction, and in that way you will always remain free from bondage.
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Dec 1, 2010 @ 7:52 am
So how do we go about doing this?
So far in ISKCON, we do not have the training for All the Ashrams, (meaning Grihastha and Vanaprasthas, then how can be begin to understand the duties and natures of various Varnas in the present context of time (present social circumstances. We have a LOT OF WORK ahead of us.
We need to understand that as long as we have these material bodies, we need to follow the rules of living in this material world which are called Varnashram Dharma (which were created at the beginning of time by Lord Brahma 3rd Canto and BG. Chapters 2 and 3.
If we say that we are spirit souls and don’t need to follow Varnashram Dharma, Then, we don’t need to eat, sleep, communicate, work etc. because we are spirit souls.
But so as long as we need to continue with all the worldly activities because we have material bodies and material needs, we need to follow the rules of THIS MATERIAL world which are CALLED Varnashram Dharma.
Then as we advance spiritually, we can gradually start to give them up with the premission of our gurus and senior devotees who themselves will be following them for the sake of teaching and encouraging others.
It is very encouraging to see senior devotees like Jaiadvaita Maharaj to give classes encouraging performing one’s duties instead of giving them up in the name of devotional service as was taught in the early days of ISKCON. We have many references of seminars and classes given by senior devotees if anyone is interested in learning more on this subject. Again, I beg your pardon for any offenses. And I thank you for this opportunity.
Wife of Svayambhuva Manudas – SDG
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 30, 2010 @ 10:50 am
We don’t know to full extent what other duties and obligations are in that relationship, like in the example of Kamsa and Lord Krsna or duty if Kamsa towards his sister Devaki where Vasudeva clearly outlines many of them not all. (oops, I am getting carried away and making this too trivial).
But the real point is that as long as we live in this material world we need to follow this system, UNLESS one is an AVADHUTTA or one wants to remain outside of Varnashram Dharma.
At this point many devotees will cite the verse that for one who has taken shelter of pure devotional service one is free of all obligations. (but my point is that we are NOT giving up any principals of pure devotional service, we are ONLY going to ADD the basic rules of Human life to decorate our external interactions which will further beautify the qualities of devotees and endear them to others.
—–Second duty of a grihastha is to make his family, relatives and community Krsna Conscious as per order of Lord Caitanya.
In order to prepare a meal, there are so many many rules one has to observe. What to speak of serving a meal to a Guest. There are hundred of rules. Do we know them. These are suposed to be taught in Varnashram College. It is mentioned that Lord Krsna and Lord Rama learnt these rules in the gurukula where Dharma Sastras like Manu Samhita and Ayurveda were also taught along with all the other Vedas (Bhakti Vidya Purna Maharaj’s tapes on Varnashram and Manu Samhita)
What food item to serve when, with what and how? Which direction one should be facing while eating, sleeping, cooking etc.
Varnashram in simple terms means, KNOWING the rules, duties and obligations of various Varnas and Ashrams and then Following them, Along with rules, duties and obligations of Pure Devotional Service as per example of Great devotees like our Acharyas like Bhaktivinod Thakur, Srila Prabhupada, Mahajans, Rajrishis, Kings like Janaka, Priyavrata, Ambarish M and devotees like Prahlad & Bali Maharaj who followed the rules of Grihastha life (and Varnashram Dharma) even though they came from a family of demons. —–Continued —-
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 30, 2010 @ 10:38 am
Srila Prabhipada wanted us to help develop Daivi Varnashram Dharma NOT asuri or regular Varnashram.
Daivi Varnashram is automatically included all the principals of devotional service like having Krsna in the center and also 18.66 (sarva dharma parityaja).
But we are requested to include the ‘second half of HIS WORK” which is Divine Varnashram. So what is that?
That is what we need to figure out for the benefit of all the above reasons mentioned in my first post and many other reasons not mentioned like
“Human Life begins at the stage of Varnashram” SP
Now I would like to share the following observations.
1) Recently there are yearly Brahmachari Conventions happening in some countries.
2)We have a functioning or unfunctioning Sanyas Ministry
—–So why NOT have an official Grihastha Training Facilities & Programs like
Mother Uttama and her team who are giving counselling/guiding programs for couples who want to get married through Grihastha Vision team. I think these programs have become compulsary in some temples if any couples want the local pujaris to conduct their marriage.
And we also have the example of counselling system set up by Chowpatty devotees, who I beleive are also sharing their systems and skills with other interested parties.
—– We need these because Srila Prabhupada had said that the First Duty of a Grihastha is to feed others and then honor prasad.
So how to do that in our present circumstances. We need to discuss this and many other important duties of Grihasthas. E.g. Rules about interaction with other people like one’s neighbours (as given in 11th Canto), one’s statesmen, king, duties towards one’s nephews and neices? As in the case of Lord Caitanya to Chand Kazi. That discussion only implies the obligations of their relationship. —Continued—-
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 30, 2010 @ 10:34 am
Sita Rama Prabhu,
Yes, it is a vast topic. Yet, we are very fortunate that many serions devotees all over the world are doing a lot of research on these topics and already educating devotees on these subjects.
Let us discuss and educate ourselves on these principals of Divine Varnashram Dharma called – Daivi Varnshram.
I beg your pardon for too many words. It is my desire to see the discussions and further education on these topics to help us all in fulfilling Srila Prabhupada’s desire.
Wife of Svayambhuva Manudas – SDG
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 19, 2010 @ 9:56 am
Dear Sita Rama Prabhu,
This is a delemma among devotees in ISKCON. It also very confusing for the followers of Vedic Culture also, ‘the present undefined roles, duties and obligations”. Therefore it is very important that we seriously discuss the principals of Daivi Varnashram Dharma (divine varnashram with Lord Krsna in the center) and understand clearly the differnces between
Vedic Principals (rules, norms, obligations & duties) also called Sanatan Dharm in the third canto because these are eternal principals,
‘Regular’ Varnashram (sometimes called Vedic Path – (as mentioned in the 11th Canto), or Asuri Varnashram ( the present day left over of Vedic path and so called Hinduism, SP also calls it remnants of varnashram) and
Pure Devotional Service (call the Path of Bhakti) – sometimes called Sanatan Dharma &
Divine Varnashram or Daivi Varnashram Dharma.
All the above categories have specific rules, regulations, obiligations and duties towards all members of society, communities and families with scientific reasons as listed in the specific scriptures for corresponding categories. E.g. Bhakti sastras for Pure Devotional Service, Dharma Sastra for Vedic Path and amalgamations of both for Daivi Varnashram Dharma as given in the books of Bhaktivinod Thakur especially the `Jaiva Dharma’ and Caitanya Sikshamrita and Purports of his divine Srila Prabhupada.
In Daivi Varnashram Dharma or society – The Vaisnavas follow the rules of the Vedic Culture for the following reasons:
—NOT to create confusion or disharmony in the society (disharmonious situation) – BG – Chap 2
—NOT unsettle the minds of non-devotees
—To show proper example in the family, community, and society.
—NOT to break the Vedic Social Norms
—To help others progress in their paths of elevation of consciousness towards Krsna consciousness
—To protect oneself from falling down in the path of bhakti
—To prevent oneself from becoming a sahajya
—To respect the principals of eternal varnashram dharma laid down at the time of creation
—To follow the laws of material world as set by Manus and examplified by Mahajans
—To follow the instructions of one’s gurus
—To Please the Vaisnavas
—To follow the example of the Supreme Lord
—To please the Supreme Lord
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 19, 2010 @ 9:25 am
This is similar to Vedic Samskars. Starting from the name giving ceremony for the baby, going out first time, grain ceremony, mundan ceremony, then starting the school, vedic graduation ceremony, etc, and upto forty other more samskars in a persons life.
In Varnashram these rituals are norm. So if devotees seriously look at implementing Daivi Varnashram Dharma, then these cultural needs of social interactiions of family and friends will be met.
In all these ceremonies, usually, small or big yajnas are main focus with the chanting of the mantras, distribution of prasad and gifts. So these brings all the family members and friends together for exhange of gifts, prasad and glorifying the Supreme Lord by Chanting Holy Names in Sankirtan becomes a very enjoyable household duty.
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On May 15, 2008 @ 7:10 pm
which are used in pujas like Abil, Gulal, kum kum, tumeric, rice and mung flour and saffron and evoke devotional mood. They have wonderful healing properties for body, mind, senses, and the soul that is why they are used in puja. So when the change of season occurs these dyes were smeared on people for prevention of viruses and warding off negative energy. These coloured dyes are used in all auspicious ceremonies e.g. Diwali for Rangolis, Weddings, Holi and at all samskaras. You will see in the movie RamaVanvas (Ramayan) how Lord Rama was first smeared with all the auspicious substances by His mothers and then bathed with panchamrita. In the aame way during the vedic wedding one day is set aside for this ceremony by all the elder ladies to smear the young couple in their respective homes with tumeric, kumkum & mung flour paste mixed with auspicous scented oils for enhancing their beauty, warding off negativity from evil eyes and other spirits and creating general balance in the chakras of the body. The coloured dyes have positive effect on various chakras of the body and have wonderful healing properties e.g. tumeric has anti-fungal and anti-biotic properties and it invokes the love of divine mother. The saffron gives joy, has uplifting properties and creates laughter (it is reported that some people die of laughter in Iran from overuse of saffron). Kumkum attracts good UV rays from the atmosphere and invokes divine love. Similar to various flower dyes. So some states in India are already promoting natural coloured dyes.
Hope this helps to enthuse devotees to seriously discuss Daivi Varnashram Dharma. I beg your pardon for the length of this article. Some devotees have appreciated the contents as informative. Your servant Mother Gandhari dasi
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Apr 7, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
away men with sticks.’
(Not that we want to introduce the stick festival in Iskcon). But Hindus have Rass and Garba during this time using the stick (called Ras dance singing the beautiful pastimes of Lord Krsna). This stick dance is celebrated in many major festivals by Hindus on Vedic Calender. 1) Sarad Purnima, Navaratri, & Holi etc. I am including on of the songs that is sung in Braja. from this website.
Holi in Braj Bhumi –
Braj mein hori khelat Nandlal.
Kesar rang ki keech bhai hai,
Chahun or udat gulal,
Braj mein hori khelat Nandlal.
Baajat jhanjhar, dhol, majari aur khartal,
Braj ki nari sangh hori khelat,
Nachat dede taal, sakhi.
Braj mein hori khelat Nandlal.
(This song sung by women describes Nandlal, as young Krishna is called, playing hori with the women of Brajbhoomi – the area comprising Mathura, Vrindavan, Gokul and Barsana that are associated with Krishna and Radha. ‘Red colour is flying in all directions and the mud has turned slushy with saffron coloured water. Friend, dance to the beat as Nandlal is playing hori’ – so the song goes.)
More Holi songs about pancha tattva
I remember a class given by Sridhar Maharaj during his very last days in Vancouver before going to Mayapur, where he mentioned that actually 80% of Hindus in India are Vaisnavas. It means that we need to obeserve with a different perspective than what we are used to.
There are couple other observances. That it is recommended in CC Adi – lila part 2 that a devotee should NOT stay at a neophyte level. He MUST come to spontaneous devotional service.
What does this have to do with holi? Holi is celebrated with knowledge of relationships & etiquette towards each other and Krsna. Therefore following suggestions.
1) We need to get training of various ettiquette, duties, and relationship towards each other in family, society and community according to Dharma Sastras.
2) Form Brahman Councils to decide which festivals to include uniformly in ISKCON according to Daivi Varnashram Dharma
3) How does Vedic Calender effect devotees in Daivi Varnshram Dharma
4) What part of Dharma Sastras should we take note of e.g. Ayurveda, Sthapatya, Parasar, Manu samhita etc.
5) What steps should be take in order to implement Daivi Varnshram Dharma.
I missed out the part that the Holi Colours were originally natural dye
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Apr 7, 2008 @ 8:10 pm
Even if we are devotees we have that enjoying spirit of celebrations unless one is a sanyasi. Among Devotee grahasthas, there are different mentalities, natures and levels of advancements also. A grahastha who is more brahminical, studious and very serious, may not be interested in joining in the fun of celebrations of this pastime and may think that it is frivolous as you have also noted
“It may be that we are more renunciation-oriented and as Mother Gandhari points out, it is more of a householder, sense-enjoyment affirming festival. That might explain why most of my experiences in ISKCON have been that devotees are not very enthusiastic about it.
But there are grahasthas from other varnas who like to take every opportunity to have fun in Krsna Conciousness. Not everyone is a serious brahman. So as you say why not celebrate Prahalad’s Maharaj’s victory as Lord Krsna Himself did when he came to earth. Therefore in order to address this point we need to seriously discuss Daivi Varnshram Dharma which includes. Vedic calender and Vedic Festivals as I mentioned on my list of Vedic Festivals. That is why I had also written that article on Diwali at that time because Hindus all over the world were having one month long celebrations (similar to xmas) including devotees who are from vedic background whereas Iskcon temples in North America and Canada were unlit on those days except on Govardhan Puja. Dandavats Nov 17 2007 Meaning and Reasons for Diwali Celebrations (my original title was going to be ‘Diwali anyone or xmas it will be’). Same thing again in this festival the whole world celebrates Xmas in a similar way to Diwali and the Hindus and devotees from Vedic Background are also celebrating Diwali in their homes. So what about devotees from other (western) background. Are all Iskcon devotees all serious brahmans in the mood of renunciation? Just as you point out.
“That might explain why most of my experiences in ISKCON have been that devotees are not very enthusiastic about it.”
So by saying this are you implying that everyone in Iskcon is supposed to come to the standard of being a brahman? We need to look at Varnshram Dharma seriously for the sake of our children. Or one may even say we are not Hindus. That is a very easy way out. Please check out Prabhupada folio on ” Hinduism” Srila Prabhupada affirms that what the Hindus are following is remnants of Varnshram.
One may say Hindus may be celebrating those festivals just for the sake
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Apr 7, 2008 @ 8:03 pm
Dear Akruranatha, at this point I would like to explain further on some of the concerns you brought up in your feedback.
On Dandavats we have noticed that Iskcon UK is celebrating Holi with using coloured dyes and Utah Krishan attracted 10,000 people for the festival of colours but of cause they all got the mercy of Lord Caitanya by listening to the Holy Names, Maha Prasad, Associations of devotees, seeing the deities & performing service by dancing. Coloured dyes was offered to many Iskcon dieties in India as well. And I must remind you that all the devotees from Vedic Background would have also smeared coloured dyes on their family and friends. This is an on going tradition and they do NOT give it up even though they join ISKCON and get initiated. So as you have asked why can’t the devotees from Western background join in the fun and you have also answered your own query.
“I have long wondered about Holi and how (whether) to observe it in ISKCON, because I have no training in it and we never used to do anything about in in the U.S. and Canada in the past”.
But it always seemed like such a joyous holiday, and connected as it is to Prahlad Maharaja and also Krishna’s pastimes, I wondered why we were always so cool about it, not spreading dyes on each other.” And the Utah Krsna’s are having so much fun!
Besides that let me also point out that all over the world, Hindus, devotee or not, will be celebrating Holi. Almost all Hindu Societies, Gujarati and other societies around the world would put up cultural shows depicting Lord Krsna’s pastimes of throwing coloured dyes with the gopies. These shows will display amazing musical songs relating to these pastimes of Lord Krsna which touch the hearts of the attendantees in the rememberance of the Supreme Lord’s Lila.These songs were either written by great devotees, Vaisnavas or even ordinary people describing Lord Krsna’s holi – pastime. So these dramas, shows and songs somehow remind the audience of Lord Krsna, which they have celebrating all their lives no matter what country they migrate to..
So what does this say about Hindus, that they carry some aspects of the culture with them especially the major festivals like Holi, Navaratri (festival of Dhurgha who was requested by Lord Visnu to kill the demon Mahisasura), Diwali (Return of Lord Rama to Ayodhya), Annakuta , Janmastami and the Vedic New Years celebrations are observed by all Hindus around the world with at least cultural shows and distribution
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Apr 7, 2008 @ 7:59 pm
continuation – Srila Prabhupada created a brahamacharini ashram because in the west, it was normal for women to remain single, just as the women are used to having equal job oppertunities as men, so he did not mind them going out on book distribution on the streets etc. (brahmacharini ashram is unheard of in the vedic culture.
Even though I am from a Gujarati family, I was also personally preaching and doing so many duties in taking care of a small preaching center along with my husband including giving Sunday lectures in the ‘8Os. But as more qualified male devotees came forward to take up those roles, I am happy in taking on other duties like cooking and dressing the deities at the temple. But since I am a preacher, I cannot refrain, therefore by Krsna’s mercy, I am still teaching and preaching in subdued methods by internet etc.
So if we understand Prabupada’s mission and the stages of ISKCON’s growth, then we should wisely, in a mature and sober way, be happy to take on our traditional roles of women. We have many advantages in doing that because it is natural, pleasing to all including gurus, Krsna, Srila Prabhupada and the parampara, will be excellent example for our future generations expecially young girls. Moreover we want to follow in the footsteps of the gopies so we should meditate on Srimati Radharani’s 25 wonderful qualities which are:
eyes are restless.
beautiful, auspicious lines.
makes Krishna happy with Her bodily aroma.
expert in singing.
speech is charming.
expert in joking and speaking pleasantly.
humble and meek.
full of mercy.
executing Her duties.
topmost level of ecstatic love.
reservoir of loving affairs in Gokula.
affectionate to elderly people.
submissive to the love of Her friends.
keeps Krishna under Her control.
As women, the advice of Draupadi to the Queens of Dwarka is very eye opener. That advice is also possible to execute, if we have husbands following their roles as Sitapati has rightly stated. Thank you very much. YS Mother Gandhari dasi
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Feb 26, 2008 @ 11:02 am
Dear Sitapati prabhu, Thank you for your bravity in presenting the strong viewpoints that are current in the society. Although I am not sure if the grahastha ashram is looked down upon these days. Devotees have matured in last ten years and have been appreciating the duties of grahastha ashram.
The reason women are called less intelligent is because they are usually over powered by emotions whereas men have the faculty of higher discrimanatory judgements. In the same example of Draupadi, Srila Prabhupada also describes Draupadi over powered by emotions therefore asks Arjuna to make his manly decision of satisfying Draupadi and also rightfully punishing Aswasthama.
Another example Srila Prabhupada sites is how India is unfortunate that it was ruled by a women (meaning you know who). There again Srila Prabhupada notes that there were great women in the Vedic Past who were very capable and even pure devotees of Krsna but they never took up the managerial positions even though some were trained in the Kshatriya families.
So as you mentioned, materially we should act our roles according to the bodies that we are given but spiritually men and women are equal B.G 9.31 These roles are for social harmony and peace in the society.
Yes, Srila Prabhupada has specifically mentioned that it is very easy for women to take to Krsna Conciousness because by nature they are submissive.
I also want to comment on this particular point –
“Amongst all this, men have insisted that women live up to the Vedic standard of submission, chastity, and obedience, without insisting that they themselves live up to the terms of their varnashram contract: providing protection, well informed level-headed guidance and support. Varnashram is a social contract all parties have to fulfill their obligations under the terms of the agreeement.
This also very true in many East Indian families presently because of the kali-yuga. In the 11th canto in the section of Vedic Path, it is mentioned that husband is called pati-parmesvar because he is supposed to be representative of the Supreme Lord for the wife (therefore the word pati-guru). Same as the king and spiritual master are representative of the Supreme Lord. Therefore if the husband develops all the wonderful qualities of the Supreme Lord starting with kindness, then there will be no need for a women to take initiation from another guru. Pati Guru will suffice. But in the early days of Iskcon, Srila Pra
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Feb 26, 2008 @ 10:19 am
Thank you very much for this conference and oppertunity. I have been listening to Gopiparanadhana Prabhus Lectures, Classes and Seminars listed on Chowpatty Website. Anyone interested in Daivi-Varnashram Society should listen to His lectures on Syavambhuva Manu, the Krsna Concious Emperor (Kshatriya King) and His interaction with Kadarma Muni (a Brahman Sage). There is a lot of very important and revolutionary understandings that are not normally discussed yet.
His clearity on Svetasava Upanishad requires real patience and determination in the first two tapes but the message gets clearer and is very relevant for Daivi-Varnashram and understanding the roles of brahmans and others in the society. We are truly blessed by His association. Most Obliged abd Grateful Servant.
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 28, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
Dear Prabhus, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. I humbly beg your pardon for any offenses to the devotees who find this article offensive.
It is already explained in the previous comment, that this article was for people who celebrate diwali, which has become very commercialized. I was hoping that by showing the original reasons for those functions, they can be inclined to come to read Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavatam and chant the Holy Names of the Supreme Lord Krsna and bring back the original culture and religion of hearing, chanting and remembering Lord Visnu in various incarnations.
As far as my the title goes, it helps to attract New age and health concious people to join to Ayr and Bhakti Yoga classes and thus become devotees within six months by the Grace of Srila Prabhupada, local Vaisnavas and temple programs. Again, I beg your pardon for misunderstanding, I had sent the comment along with the article but must have been printed later.
Begging to remain in the association of Vaisanavas.
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 20, 2007 @ 6:48 pm
This article was writting for Diwali Sovenir for VHP and Gujarati Society and their websites. It was cordially received. Hope it is helpful to devotees as well.
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 19, 2007 @ 5:33 pm
Dear Sita Pati prabhu,
Thank you very much. I think it is about time we start doing this – start supporting our brahamns (priets, pujaris, advisors, counsellors – heads of the society, spritiual educators, pandits, and ritualistic priests etc. Yes, we should start IDENTIFYING the real Brahamans in our movement. We are all so used to seeing devotees having accepted gayatri mantras, therefore thinking that they are all brahmans. But in truth, even vaisyas can chant the gayatri mantras.
So lets start recognizing the people w ith their various qualities, nature and dharmas.
So just as you have mentioned some of the qualities of the brahamans, if we list all of them and then gradually match them up with the people in our local communities – we may be able to IDENTIFY some Real Brahamans who deserve support, charity and care (I beg your pardon, I do not mean that we should not support and care for other brahamans – because they are all vaisnavas, we should care, honor a nd respect all) – I am making a point that the brahamans would be IDENTIFIED by their nature, qualities and services they are engaged in. (And not just becuase they are doing particular services for maintainance only in some cases and who do not try to improve or aquire brahaminical qualities)
So you are absolutely correct, that other members of the communities should start supporting them. and that will be the beginning of Daivi Varnashram society that Srila Prabhupada wanted. In the SB Elevent Canto – it is mentioned that the Brahamans worship the deities on behalf of the whole country.
So if we support the brahmans who are worshipping the Supreme Lord is the center for the whole society in a Daivi Varnashram state (community).
If the grahasthas start purforming the 11 or 16 important samsakars in their and their children’s lives, that will create so much employment for the brahman priest. I think as a society, we should start practising this varnashram principals and then gradually the general congregation memebers, and then the general public will see the v alue and importance of these samskaras. In the samskaras, there is the need to feed the brahamans, give in charity and thus support them for their priestly work. This way there will be natural e xchange and mutual respect.
Best of all it will be a natural IDENTIFYING criteria of the brahmans of one order (priestly).
Mother Gandhari dasi
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Jul 31, 2007 @ 2:51 am
Dear Radhikakrpa devi dasi,
Thank you very your wonderful preaching activities. Where are your photos that you mentioned available for viewsing?
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Jul 10, 2007 @ 11:13 pm
What are the differences of the functions of all these diffent committees, SSPT, Sastric and now Parallel Line?
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Jul 9, 2007 @ 9:13 pm
Dear Devotees, Just a caution.
Please be careful about eating to many Cashews (or Cashew butter) because they are mentioned at high rate of medical values. They are very heating to the system. Ready made roasted, toasted, fried cashews and other nuts may be very toxic to the system because of rancidity. Ground Nuts = Peanuts should not be eaten raw, very heavy to digest. Few cooked peanuts in a preparation or roasted are ok especially on Ekadasis. Actually it is best to eat only six soaked almonds with peels removed in the morning.
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 20, 2007 @ 9:28 am
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It is very nice to see such Dialogue on Varnashram Dharma. I wish there can be more discussions on this topic.
My understanding of “material prescribed duties” is all obligatory duties of all classes of human beings. E.g. Stri dharma, Pati-Dharma, Putra Dharma, Raja Dharma (Niti), Dharma towards your neighbours as you mentioned., dharma of various varnas and ashrams are considered material duties. So basically it referes to the Vedic Path as metioned in the 11th Canto.
So as devotees of Krsna we should not give up these duties but carry them out for two reasons – 1) to show an example of how to fulfill one’s obligations and duties and 2) to maintain harmony in the varnashram society created by Lord Krsna Himself. But a Devotee of Lord Krsna carries out Both. Performs his prescribed duties and also carries out his Sadhana Bhakti and Man, Mana Bhavo — (9.34). He will not distrupt the mind of ignorant but will gradually guide him towards devotional service.
Many Kings in the past have done this. E.g. King Janaka, King Privyavrata, Maharaj Yudhirsthir, Svayambhuva Manu, Maharaja Ambarish, even Lord Krsna Himself in Dwarka would carry out all the prescribed duties of a householder by getting up early in the morning, meditating on Himself, worshipping his parents, giving respects to elders, giving in charity to brahmans, offering oblations to forefathers (pitris), going to the assembly hall for daily Kingly duties, taking care of his wives and children, (taking them on holidays in caravan to Hastinapur)!, playing watersports with his queens and giving used clothes to the servants.
Same prescribed duties were carried out by Bhaktivinod Thakur and Srila Prabhupada where he made sure all his children were married.
I will be happy to discuss this further.
» Posted By Mother Gandharidasi On Nov 20, 2007 @ 10:12 am
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