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Hare Krishna I am always mistaken with Sri Nandanandana das (Stephen Knapp)
This is my picture with Srila Prabhupada, my name is simply Nandanandana das:
Comment Posted By NandanandanaDasACBSP On 08.02.2012 @ 19:36
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
I have summited to the Bhaktivedanta Archives a couple of times a Srila Prabhupada’s letter sent to Gadi das prabhu and to myself dated on the 24th of Agust 1977, a couple months before His Divine Grace’s departure,neither I have never seen it published.
I have never seen neither, in the Veda Base, Srila Prabhupada’s lectures from June 1972 in Mexico City. There is only a room conversation misplaced in May 4 th. -Srila Prabhupada arrived to the Mexico City temple the first week of June 1972, he was not there in May.
Your servant Nandanandana das.
I am ready to cooperate to make them available.
Comment Posted By NandanandanaDasACBSP On 07.02.2012 @ 22:08
In 1979, when I first visit the Vraja area, I heard local stories in Mathura of confrontations between Hindus and Muslims. Muslims wanting to steal cows for bhutchering and Hindus for protecting the cows.
Can there be any respect for Vrindavan and its inhabitants, wich includes the cows?
Vrindavan is the holiest place on Earth, and now the center of worship for thousands of Vaishnavas from around the World. Vrindavana should be free of meat aeating of any type and free from stealing cows, they are meant to be protected.
RESPECT KRISHNA’S PLACE!
Comment Posted By NandanandanaDasACBSP On 02.05.2009 @ 03:43
Comment on ABCâs
By Nandanandana Das (ACBSP)
It seems that even within ISKCON there are devotees who donât have a full understanding of Srila Prabhupadaâs transcendental position and that of his teachings, otherwise it cannot be explained how some who were his disciples and followers had left him. There were some spiritual leaders who came and said, âI know your guru better than you doâ, but when they spoke out we found out that that was not truth; rather their preaching was vilifying Srila Prabhupadaâs position. Whether it was done intentionally or they just were unable to comprehend his position.
Even during Srila Prabhupadaâs physical presence there were many of such undue attacks and criticisms against His Divine Grace. Now previous followers of Srila Prabhupada and new comers are being contaminated by such Vaisnava aparadhas against His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
First I want to make the point that the teachings and daily sadhana given by His Divine Grace are the perfect medium to attain pure devotion to Their Lordships Sri Sri Radha-Krishna, from sraddha to prema bhakti. To attain raganuga and madurya-rasa, and the other rasas. It is the path chalked out by our acaryas, like our rasa-acarya Srila Rupa Goswami Prabhupada and rasa-raja Srila Narottamadas Thakur, Srila Krishnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami, and all the previous acaryas of the Gaudiya-madhva-sampradaya, of whom Srila Prabhupada is their representative.
Some of the misconceptions are not accepting calling him Prabhupada, rather only âswamijiâ, âyour Prabhupadaâ, âour Prabhupadaâ. Srila Prabhupada got the title out of his own right by his preaching work, by fulfilling the desire of Lord Caitanya and that of our previous acaryas, like Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur, of spreading the holy name all over the world! Not a small task! Lord Caitanya predicted it and he did it! He represented the Lord, Prabhu, serving unto His lotus feet, pada. Why those who call themselves Vaisnavas could not accept that he is Prabhupada? After these considerations, is he Prabhupada only for his followers? He is Srila Prabhupada, the representative of the Lord, for the entire world. Therefore he is Prabhupada.
Only ABCâs? Go somewhere else to get higher realizations?
After the false propaganda even for ISKCON devotees is difficult to grasp that Srila Prabhupada left us the complete science of pure devotional service. If those who claim to teach higher realizations cannot properly appreciate Srila Prabhupada, how can we believe that we can get âhigher realizationsâ from them? To think that Srila Prabhupada only gave us the basis, the ABCâs, it is wrong.
In her comment mother Radhika-seva very graciously conveys, âThe fact that Srila Prabhupada was able to give so many people so much faith in the ABCs of Krishna consciousness is a truly wonderful and amazing thing that no one else has ever been able to accomplish.â
She shows the same contamination right there, âto give so many people so much faith in the ABCs of Krishna consciousnessâ. She concedes only that much to Srila Prabhupada.
She further says, âI want to very humbly beg the devotees: Let us be broad minded in our Krishna consciousness. Let us not become limited by institutional politics and Vaisnava aparadha. If various devotees have different types of realizations, let us try to live and let live in a spirit of harmony and tolerance.â
What is to be broad minded for her and similar people? Is it that anybody comes and says any nonsense about Srila Prabhupada and we have to be silent?
By institutional politics, does she means Narayana Maharaja wonât use his institutional politics to try to take over ISKCON? Or is she using the typical clichĂ© to attack ISKCON, coined by institution breakers?
What about Vaisnava aparadha? Anybody can say any nonsense and vilifying statements against Srila Prabhupada and that is not Vaisnava aparadha? I have not read or heard such defense. When some devotee responds attacks against Srila Prabhupada immediately the others cry, âVaisnava aparadha!â But they do not consider their offensive and abusive language against Srila Prabhupada, that is Vaisnava aparadha.
Just consider this, Srila Prabhupada translated and commented Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, the postgraduate book in Krishna consciousness, the book that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada used to read in his later years.
âToday [Caitanya-caritamrita] it remains the most authoritative book on Caitanya Mahaprabhuâs philosophy and life.â- CC Introduction.
âThe direct disciple of Srila Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami was Srila Narottama dasa Thakura, who accepted Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti as his servitor. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura accepted Srila Jagannatha dasa Babaji, the spiritual master of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who in turn accepted Srila Gaurakisora dasa Babaji, the spiritual master of Om Visnupada Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, the divine master of our humble self.
Since we belong to this chain of disciplic succession from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, this edition of Sri Caitanya-caritamrita will contain nothing newly manufactured by our tiny brains, but only remnants of food originally eaten by the Lord HimselfâŠThe subject matter of this book is not a mental concoction but a factual spiritual experience that one can realize only by accepting the line of disciplic succession described above. Any deviation from that line will bewilder the readerâs understanding of the mystery of Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, which is a transcendental literature meant for the postgraduate study of one who has realized all the Vedic literatures such as the Upanisads and Vedanta-sutra and their natural commentaries such as Srimad-Bhagavatam and the Bhagavad-gita.â-CC Adi-lila, summary of the 1st chapter.
âThe present Krsna consciousness movement is also based on the authority of Srila Rupa Gosvami Prabhupada. We are therefore generally known as rupanugas, or followers in the footsteps of Srila Rupa Gosvami Prabhupada. It is only for our guidance that Srila Rupa Gosvami prepared his book Bhakti-rasamrita-sindhu, which is now presented in the form of The Nectar of Devotion. Persons engaged in the Krsna consciousness movement may take advantage of this great literature and be very solidly situated in Krsna consciousnessâŠOur love can be fully satisfied only when it is reposed in Krsna. This theme is the sum and substance of The Nectar of Devotion, which teaches us how to love Krsna in five different transcendental mellows.â-NOD Preface.
Those who say that Srila Prabhupada gave only the basis, the ABCâs only, they deny the importance of Srila Prabhupadaâs work like Sri Caitanya-caritamrita, Nectar of Devotion, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita, Teachings of Lord Caitanya, Krishna Book, his classes, and so on. They deny that there is madurya-rasa, and that there is raganuga-bhakti in all of these. That is very offensive. Only a fool would accept such conclusions.
Donât you see the offense? This is very vilifying. Trying to diminish him. He is the sampradaya-acarya, wich means that he represents the Gaudiya sampradaya of Lord Caitanya, and they try to diminish him.
They would come and say âhe is good, but I am better.â That is NONSENSE.
âTo preach whole world the name of Krishna…and to give Gita Sandesh…is the very good thing. This was done by…you should know. So I want to say that your Prabhupada has given these things…ONLY THESE THINGS…AND NOT BEYOND THESE THINGS. Then he was only the servant of Mahavisnu, not of Krishna. A strange thing…fact…but for them who are ignorant.”- Lecture given by Narayana Maharaja on September 19th, 1994.
This is Srila Prabhupadaâs answer to those who say that âhe only gave the basis, ABC, Bhagavad-gita only. No more than thisâ.
Bhagavad-gita class 1.4. London, July 10, 1973.
Translation: “Here in this army there are many heroic bowmen equal in fighting to Bhima and Arjuna; there are also great fighters like Yuyudhana, Virata and Drupada.”
Prabhupada: So all these heroes are mentioned not only in this verse, in several other verses also. So people may ask that “By mentioning these great fighter, what spiritual progress we make? Because we are meant for chanting Hare Krsna maha-mantra, so by chanting the names of these great fighters, what do we gain?” The question may be raised there. But the thing is that nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe, whenever there is connection with Krsna, that also becomes Krsna. This is a subtle form of philosophical understanding. Nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe. If there is relationship with Krsna… Therefore the sahajiyas, they do not read Bhagavad-gita. They say, “We have nothing to do with Bhagavad-gita.” They jump over to the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Tenth Canto, Krsna’s rasa-lila, as if Krsna is connected with rasa-lila and not with this lila. They make distinction. Krsna’s this fighting lila, pastimes, and the rasa-lila pastime, they are all the same because Krsna is the center. Krsna being center, whatever in connection with Krsna is there, that becomes also Krsna. This is the idea.
yuktam vairagyam ucyate
This is the instruction of Srila Rupa Gosvami in his Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu.So everything studied in relationship with Krsna, that is perfect knowledge, and that is described in the Bhagavad-gita. So it is not that like sahajiyas that we are interested in Krsna’s rasa dance, not with this fighting in the Battlefields of Kuruksetra. This is sahajiya-bhava. This is not wanted. Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)
Not a servant of Krishna?
“Such neophytes, unable to appreciate the exalted service of the advanced devotee, try to bring the maha-bhagavata to their platform. We experience such difficulty in propagating this Krishna consciousness all over the world. Unfortunately we are surrounded by neophyte Godbrothers [and non-godbrothers too] who do not appreciate the extraordinary activities of spreading Krishna consciousness all over the world. They simply try to bring us to their platform, and they try to criticize us in every respect. We very much regret their naive activities and poor fund of knowledge. An empowered person who is actually engaged in the confidential service of the Lord should not be treated as an ordinary human being, for it is stated that unless one is empowered by Krishna, one cannot spread the Krishna consciousness movement all over the world.
When one thus criticizes a pure devotee, he commits an offense (vaisnava-aparadha) that is very obstructive and dangerous for those who desire to advance in Krishna consciousness. A person cannot derive any spiritual benefit when he offends the lotus feet of a Vaisnava. Everyone should therefore be very careful not to be jealous of an empowered Vaisnava, or a suddha-vaisnava.” - SP, N.O.I. 6.
A previous Srila Prabhupadaâs disciple even published thru internet that Srila Prabhupada was not in madhurya-rasa. The idea behind this is that he has to go to someone else in order to get madhurya instruction and realization. It is the same idea. But the reality is that your rasa with the Lord is revealed, it cannot be forced by the conditioned soul, try to force it is siddha-pranali, a type of sahajiyism.
Prabhupada: Yes. When you are liberated, you will understand in which way you are related with Krsna. That is called svarupa-siddhi. But that is attained when you are actually perfect in devotional service.-SB Lecture 6.3.16-17. Gorakhpur. February 10, 1971.
âA devotee who is actually advanced in Krsna consciousness, who is constantly engaged in devotional service, should not manifest himself, even though he has attained perfection. The idea is that he should always continue to act as a neophyte devotee as long as his material body is there. Activities in devotional service under regulative principles must be followed even by the pure devotee. But when he realizes his actual position in relationship with the Lord, he can, along with the discharging of regulative service, think within himself of the Lord, under the guidance of a particular associate of the Lord, and develop his transcendental sentiments in following that associate.
In this connection, we should be careful about the so-called siddha-pranali. The siddha-pranali process is followed by a class of men who are not very authorized and who have manufactured their own way of devotional service. They imagine that they have become associates of the Lord simply by thinking of themselves like that. This external behavior is not at all according to the regulative principles. The so-called siddha-pranali process is followed by the prakita-sahajiya, a pseudosect of so-called Vaisnavas. In the opinion of Rupa Gosvami, such activities are simply disturbances to the standard way of devotional service.â-NOD 16.
Continuing with this line of reasoning, he may think that he is in a higher position than Srila Prabhupada, however this is material way of thinking. In the material world one tries to get something to become more important, this is material. Thinking that he has higher realizations than his guru he may write about guru-tattva, rasa-tattva, and what to speak about madhurya-rasa! But he does not even properly appreciate his guru! His writing about rasa is useless.
Yasomatinandana: Spiritual master gives knowledge, and then a disciple is eternally indebted to spiritual master.
Yasomatinandana: It is not that, like Mayavadis, they serve the spiritual master in the beginning and then they…
Prabhupada: Then they…
Yasomatinandana: …themselves become…
Prabhupada: …throw him away, “Go away. I have now learned.” Guru-mara-vidya, to, the knowledge of how to kill guru. Guru-mara-vidya. Their, the philosophy is that you cannot rise up. You take a ladder. But as soon as you rise, throw away the ladder. No more. No more needed. That is Mayavada philosophy. Our philosophy is dhyayan stuvams tasya yasas tri-sandhyam.
Prabhupada: Eternally (âŠ) We should always remain servant of the servant. Never we shall think that “I am better than my Guru Maharaja.” That is fall down.-Morning walk. LA 12/05/73.
I will just include a few events.
“In Isana and his wife’s letters there is reference to Tirtha Maharaja’s name, as if they were advised by Brahmananda Maharaja and company to come to India and join Tirtha Maharaja. It appears like that. I shall be glad if you kindly inquire on this point. It is now clear that my Godbrothers take objection of my being called as Prabhupada and on this point they wanted to poison the whole Society - that is now clear. But how it was manipulated - that is a mystery.” - SP letter to Rupanuga, Sept 25, 70, Calcutta
“You should not write anything to Madhava Maharaja’s camp. You may have talked many things with Mangala Niloy but why write him in black and white. The letter must not be sent. Their policy has been all along to suppress me and take credit for himself. [Is this any different from what Narayana Maharaj is doing?] Their proposal for cooperation is a myth. They haven’t done anything which is cooperative. You know in a recent article they managed to write in such a way that Madhava is doing the world movement and we are his subordinate. From the beginning that has been their mentality. So there is no possibility of cooperation with them. Rather you should avoid strictly meeting with them. They are not after preaching but material gain and reputation and adoration. Otherwise why they are non cooperating with me? So no cooperation is possible. Do not think or indulge in loose talks. Be careful always. Let us do the duty of propagation sincerely and seriously on our own principles. Krsna and Srila Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura are our only hope and they and helping us. If anything has to be done it is to be talked on the higher level between Madhava Maharaja and myself, but I know his mentality is different and there is no possibility of cooperation.” Srila Prabhupada’s letter to Acyutananda 6/8/74
Who is this Madhava Maharaja? In Mayapura India Madhava Maharaja came over and shouted at Srila Prabhupada, pointed in his face with his finger quite rudely — to stop using the title “Prabhupada.” Devotees were very worried and alarmed at this sub-violent outburst. Then Prabhupada said (paraphrased), “Post a guard at my door, my God brothers might try to harm me.” âPritha dd.
R-s dd further says, âlet us try to live and let live in a spirit of harmony and tolerance.â
In good spirits Srila Prabhupada always invited everybody to work cooperatively with him, but you see what he gets. So, who started the disharmony and intolerance?
There was a time when Srila Prabhupadaâ disciples thought that anyone coming from India was as Krishna conscious as him, it has been a rough wakening.
There is a short, but interesting and instructive article by Payonidhi prabhu. How can one loose faith in Srila Prabhupada like this?
Comment Posted By NandanandanaDasACBSP On 16.04.2007 @ 03:47
This is not just a case of not respecting the human rights of a religious minority, namely Hindu or Hare Krishna Movement, by a government, namely the Kazakhstan government, but this is a case of religious persecution!
What other qualification can be given to such situation that religious persecution, when their adherents are thrown out of their houses into the cold winter without any consideration? That is neither a human nor a civilized act. It is a clear case of religious persecution!
While trying to portray themselves as a civilized government to the rest of the world, they act with duplicity, harassing Krishnaâs devotees.
âKazakhstan has recently worked at portraying itself as a place where religious tolerance is respected. At the same time it has been repeatedly criticized by groups such as Forum18, a Norwegian human rights organization, and is under observation by the OSCE, a group Kazakhstanâs President, Nursultan Nazarbayev, wants Kazakhstan to chair in 2009.â
Which is Nursultan Nazarbayevâs religion? Obviously he is not impartial.
Whatever is done to these devotees in Kazakhstan is done to the entire Hindu community in the world, as matter of fact to the entire humanity. That is why freedom of religion is called human right. We cannot be insensible to this situation nor we wonât be.
Comment Posted By NandanandanaDasACBSP On 29.11.2006 @ 05:02
Very interesting and congratulations. This article really inspires me as I was just recently invited to give classes on Bhagavad-gita to a hatha-yoga group. This group is very big in Mexico, of course we start with kirtan and use Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gia as it is. Hatha-yogis can be our big coustomers too.
Comment Posted By NandanandanaDasACBSP On 29.09.2006 @ 06:21