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A comment on this forum could unintentionally, ever so slightly, question Srila Prabhupadaâ€™s chanting. Some devotees could have doubts whether in his fast chanting, all syllables were properly pronounced or even that he completed every word in the mahamantra.
This fast chanting of a pure devotee can be understood against Srila Rupa Goswamiâ€™s statement where he says that when the holy name is chanted, Krsna dances on the tongue and one aspires to have millions of tongues to have Krsna dance on it constantly and also millions of ears to hear sufficiently.
A pure devotee fully realized in the holy name would chant so fast so not to miss out on relishing Krsna personally on the tongue even for one moment. Srila Prabhupada was a pure devotee and relished the holy name and it is inconceivable to us how he may seemingly not complete a syllable sometimes but at the same time he completes it in the race to get Krsna dancing on his tongue every second. For him, the mind races forward with the name of Krsna before the tongue can complete the pronunciation.
Haridas Thakura chanted very fast to complete 175 rounds a day and still have time to associate with Lord Caitanya and other devotees and rest. So it is inconceivable for conditioned souls like us to understand how pure devotees could have Krsna dancing on the tongue even for what is seemingly an incomplete syllable or mantra.
We cannot imitate. Therefore Srila Prabhupadaâ€™s instructions to Pusta Krishna Prabhu that he even pronounces the â€śRamaâ€ť complete. Although â€śRamâ€ť could be acceptable, in the beginning stages, chanting Ram would encourage missing syllables or even words in the mahamantra. Just try it â€“ when someone chants â€śRamaâ€ť in the mahamantra, a slight pause is forced upon the chanter and after that it is very difficult not to complete the mahamantra properly. So Srila Prabhupada instructed Pusta Krishna Prabhu accordingly.
As for chanting â€śRamoâ€ť, Praghosa Prabhu quotes Srila Prabhupada saying â€śdonâ€™t worry Krsna knows who theyâ€™re calling.â€ť Certainly this is true. Even Eastern Europeans pronounce the holy names with a different accent but they say it naturally from their heart, it is not imitating the latest trend. So devotees calling Krsna in their natural way, even the partially deaf or even animals with their barks, meeoows and grunts â€“ certainly Krsna knows they are calling him. But for devotees wanting to imitate the latest fashion trend - this is unacceptable by Srila Prabhupada.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 26.10.2013 @ 04:00
For example, for the past twenty-four years our movement has distributed tens of millions of plates of hot, nutritious food in low income areas such as the outlying towns and villages of Kwazulu Natal.
I was fortunate to go with Laxminath Das on food distribution once, in rural Kwazulu Natal. It cannot be emphasised enough how Laxminath Prabhu always distributes the holy names with prasadam and he has single-handedly made Hare Krsna a household word amongst the indigenous Africans of that region. If you ever travelled in and around Durban (capital of KZN) or greater KZN, and if you had tilak on your forehead or a sikha or looked like a devotee, Africans, mostly children from informal settlements or villages would come up to you at traffic lights or stop signs and greet you with the Hare Krishna Mahamantra and show pleasure in seeing you.
This is indeed using prasadam distribution the proper way. These people are innocent and therefore they take to the holy names with simplicity and sing and dance with enthusiasm. Their devotional service has started.
Laxminath Prabhu, a disciple of HH Indradyumna Swami, has been doing this for over 24 years all by himself. He cooks every morning, loads his van and goes to the rural areas â€“ the villages and informal settlements to distribute prasadam but he makes the people chant the Mahamantra as well. Harinam Sankirtan is regularly held in these areas together with prasadam distribution and the results are clearly to be seen â€“ the Mahamantra is a household name amongst the locals and Krsna consciousness is very favourably accepted due to prasadam distribution done properly. It has even infected Nelson Mandala who looks favourably towards the Hare Krsnas and now we see the present President of that country and other leaders from that region become infected as well.
Other devotees distributing prasadam in other parts of the world should take a leaf out of this example. Give Krsna Consciousness WITH prasadam â€“ do not feel embarrassed! We do not hear the glories or Laxminath Prabhu as we do other Prasadam distributors â€“ because Laxminath Prabhu does not desire recognition. He is successful because he has the adikari, he is a simple brahmacari and his faith is simplistic and wholesome. I always wanted to glorify this Prabhu for single-handedly and selflessly spreading the holy names all through Kwa-Zulu Natal and here is my chance.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 04.02.2013 @ 14:22
In response to bbd
In actual Vedic society women freely mixed with men
This is just your assumption based on modern view or speculation. It is not in line with shastra and has already been proven conclusively in comments to other articles regarding this issue. On the bodily platform, there are different prescribed duties for different people which is favourable for spiritual life. This subject is “chewing the chewed” and I will not go into it.
Nothing in this world is going on independently of Krishnaâ€™s divine plan.
I agree but Krsna gave us freewill and we should feel anxiety for the future of Krsna consciousness all over the world and not sit idle. Srila Prabhupada said that his guru maharaja used to say that to preach, you need to have “life”. Without “life”, you cannot preach. Srila Prabhupada translated this “life” to mean enthusiasm. Srila Prabhupada knew Krsna was doing everything, still he showed us how much “life” he had. So we should not sit idle thinking Krsna will do everything. Krsna will be pleased if we act. Presently, due to a comfort zone we have settled into, many devotees have lost this “life” and I have to admit that I am one of them. I pray that Srila Prabhupada gives me some “life”. There is still much enthusiasm in India amongst second genreation devotees to take Krsna consciousness to every rural village and this should be encouraged.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 01.01.2013 @ 03:35
Did you ever visit a country of 1,241,491,960 people where over half of the people perform their toilet activities on the train tracks or the sides of the roads daily?
We have to understand this in relation to a 1.2 billion Indian population compared to small populations of Western countries. India is trying to fit into the Western miniskirt overnight. Rural people come to the cities for material progress and want this overnight. With Western countries, they had a smaller population and material progress was gradual. Here, we have an old lady squeezing into the tight fitting skirt of a young lady without knowing the rules.
Yes, a revolution is needed. But, it should be a revolution of consciousness. Krishna consciousness, God consciousness.
There seems to be a contradiction of an earlier implication â€“ that the youth should not care so much about what their parents or society would say and should progress towards bringing in a new constitution where all citizens are equal. This would gradually take the protection of women out of the hands of father, brother or husband and be more a responsibility of the State.
A revolution of Krsna consciousness in India would bear fruit if devotees preached not just to the elite such as the rich and college or university students but concentrated more on the rural populations of India. Many of the rural are converting to Christanity and joining rebel movements because they feel abused by the caste system and also want “material” equal rights quickly. The Hare Krsna’s can show how they can also become brahmins or truly be the upperclass of India if they take to Krsna consciousness â€“ no matter whatever varna they feel inclined towards. We have the philopsophy. There is devotee manpower in India. It would not take much planning to spread out to even the remotest of villages and set up little preching centres. No need for big temples, send men and put up temporary inexpensive wood or iron structures. There is ample devotee manpower in India. People should be encouraged not to give up their farms for false happiness. Since the majority of Indians still live off the land, it will be easier to preach with varnasrama in mind.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 31.12.2012 @ 07:16
Continued from previous:
The change that the “status quo” should bring to the youths of India is how to respect and protect women and go back to simple morals. The sad rape and subsequent death of this young girl who went out at night with her male friend has gained hugh publicity all over the world simply because of the protests over this. The protests in Delhi, in some instances leading to riots, were mostly by youths, spearheaded by young males - university and college students. They were using this incident to demand government protection and freedom for women to do as they please. To facilitate this freedom, the government should protect the women. The subtle desire of these males are simply to make these women loose so they can exploit and enjoy them.
But I think the Indian youth are too afraid of what their parents and society would say. Rather, they use the social media to ape the degraded materialistic culture.
In a way, it is good that the youths of India are still largely respectful to their parents and society. Unfotunately, social media and television is quickly taking the Indian youth down the road of degradation.
I wish the Indian old elite would do the right thing, step aside, and allow brains that work to develop a structure for the nation in which all the citizens were equal before the constitution.
It is a fact the elite abuse power and should step down. However more elderly leaders are preferable, they still hang on to some culture, using “old fashioned brains,” despite the corruption. As we see, the recent preference and popularity of younger leaders in the West has led to quicker moral degradation. Materialistic false equality before a false constitution is only created for explotation. How often did Srila Prabhupada smash the idea of this so called “demon-crazy” (democracy) civilazation. The “structure” needed is to go back to the roots. India is a country where varnasrama or farm community living will be more easily accepted amongst devotees and the rural population.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 31.12.2012 @ 07:15
Dear Maharaja, Please forgive me for any offence but I must voice my opinion on this.
The present perverted culture of India allows rape and molestation of women to take place anywhere and everywhere in the nation.
What is this perverted culture? I heard it said that India is like an old lady, very ancient. She tries to fit into a tight fitting miniskirt of a younger Western lady. The understanding is that an old lady does not look attractive in a tight fitting miniskirt as she tries to look younger to “fit in”. So India is an old ancient lady trying to imitiate and live Western culture and attain this in an overnight transition. This is impossible, especially with a 1.2 billion population, and millions of rural dwellers migrating into cities every year, trying to fit into tight Western skirts. Hence, the sight of people performing toilet activities on train tracks, uriniting anywhere being acceptable socially, trash thrown anywhere etc. And with material progress, women lose protection of their fathers and brothers because of a desire to be independent. As a result, the govenment needs to give this protection and they do not have the resources for such a large population.
I wish the Indian youth were savvy enough, and courageous enough, to use the social media in the same way that it has been used over the past few years to bring a change to the status quo.
What “status quo” should they change? It would be better if the youth of India were “savvy and courageous” to realise that the ultimate degradation of Western society is fast approaching and to do a U-Turn now and not imitate. The culture of marriage in the West is fast becoming extinct â€“ sexual partners are changed as easy as buying new clothes and it is considered normal behaviour. Women crawl on the streets intoxicated - with barely any clothes on, they vomit and urinate unashamedely on the sidewalks. Sex life becomes perveted, because of over familarity with the opposite sex. Many men no longer look to women as desirous, instead they turn to homosexulity, pedophilia or other perveted forms of sex. It is said that there are special dogs that some women keep as pets which are trained to satisfy their sexual desires. This is because men and women become fed up with each other to the point of hatred.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 31.12.2012 @ 07:10
Adipurusa Prabhu says: It is already ISKCON law since many years. Except for a few (revered) ISKCON members in South India, lady guruship does not seem to evoke any special feelings in anyone in India.
Possibly for the small circle of devotees Adipurusa Prabhu associates with in Vrindavan, “special feelings” are not evoked. But not for “All India.” For the majority of devotees in India, it is not an issue because they already take it for granted based on tradition that diksa guru is male.
It should be noted that Adipurusa dasa holds a senior position as well as he is a teacher at the VIHE (Vrindavan Institute of Higher Education). Mother Narayana dasi, who’s name has been put up for being the first female diska guru is also a senior devotee at the VIHE. And out of nine teachers for this years VIHE courses (Bhakti Sastri, Bhakti Vaibhava and Bhakti Vedanta), four were females: Laksmimoni Dasi, Urmila Dasi, Prasanta Dasi and Vraja Lila Dasi. This information can be found on the VIHE website http://www.vihe.org/index.html
So the VIHE is influenced by a small group of Western devotees and also by gender equality. It is sad that an institution entrusted with disseminating the conclusions of Sastra should not perfectly understand its conclusions “As It Is,” on the gender issue.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 26.12.2012 @ 10:50
If they want toâ€¦ every Hare Krishna devotee will have the opportunity to be involved with the Govindas Restaurants. Either as an employee or even owning part of the franchise and running it as their own business.
The danger here is raw capitalism and greed creeping into the devotee community. Presently, a small percent of the population hoards almost ninety five percent of the worldâ€™s wealth. We need to have vision, to be able to see fifty or some hundreds of years from now. And, if as predicated, all other religions fall away and Krsna consciousness becomes the predominant religion of the world and we have some varnasrama system in place, then this proposal of big business will have no place in such a society.
For such planning, spiritual guidance is needed. That means not just taking advice from senior devotees but actually advanced devotees. The shelter of a proper spiritual head with vision (brahmana) who can give proper advice is required.
So this idea of â€śeither as an employee or even owning part of the franchiseâ€ť sends out a message of an intention for this to be run as a big business enterprise such as Mcdonalds. Many grhasthas would have thought of opening a vegetarian restaurant at some point, itâ€™s a perfect way to earn money and preach at the same time. So better to use the expertise and set up grhasthas to run their own restaurants independently. If the influence and fame of Iskcon and Govindaâ€™s are to be used, then spiritual guidance from an advanced devotee with vision of a future Hare Krsna world with varnasrama principles is required.
It could be networked into some franchise for uniformity and some percentage of profits taken as salary but it is dangerous to get into the super-rich (hording) mentality.
Another danger is that a big business organization with absolute authority could introduce new age ideas or other deviant philosophies in their restaurants so that it becomes unrecognizable as the Hare Krsnaâ€™s. The idea to open Govindaâ€™s all over Europe is good but it is better to set up individual vaisyaâ€™s to own them and spread the wealth.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 09.11.2012 @ 07:54
Hoping this finds you all well, feel free to contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org if you are interested in discussing further this project and seeing it turn into a reality during your current lifetime.
Puskaraksa Prabhu is willing to at least facilitate some discussion as a start. I hope grhastha devotees will feel encouraged to get a team together in their regions and at least talk about it. Please contact him on his email address. Also, there are devotees already doing farming. It would be nice if they can come on board with their expertise and advice. Devotees from all over the world interested in these projects should stay networked to encourage one another and share ideas.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 21.09.2012 @ 11:31
“Interesting article. I was however hoping for more input as to how and why devotees might get involved?”
As for “how” devotees could get involved: Grhastha devotees, with blessings from our leaders, should take it upon themselves and start devotee community projects in all parts of the world.
We should facilitate the needs of most grhasthas, which is to earn money to support their families â€“ to do this by getting them together and offer them land to farm. They are already working outside in offices, factories, shops etc to earn money to support their asrama and I think most of them will be grateful to earn money within the association of a devotee community. The simplicity of this idea is to let the grhasthas get together and take care of this and not involve our leaders who may already be overburdened with other services. This does not have to be called varnasrama but communal living. Varnasrama can evolve from this.
Grhasthas in every zone could organise themselves into teams to take care of matters of economics, logistics etc and to source and purchase land. The logistics of different countries will differ but to take India as an example, 500 acres of land will easily settle about 100 grhastha farmers with each having appromimately 4.5 acres of land and they could earn between seventy to a hundred thousand Indian rupees per acre per year. The remaining 50 acres could be used for a little village within the community with a temple, shops, gurukula etc and perhaps houses for non farming devotees who want to settle within the community. About 10 acres could be used as a retirement home for cows - traditionally in India, farmers keep at least two cows and a bull.
As for “why” devotees should get involved: Living in a varnasrama setting will be beneficial for steady spiritual advancement â€“ “Boiling our Milk.”
There is an article I wrote that was posted on Dandavats called “Varnasrama - Why Now!” giving more details. Shorter edited versions can be read at the links below.
Comment Posted By Nitai dasa On 16.09.2012 @ 14:24