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This is the most beautiful film I have ever seen. All glories to your wonderful service in pure devotion, Prabhus
» Posted By Patita Pavana On May 24, 2013 @ 8:45 pm
Govinda Dasi tells of an instance wherein the devotees wrote a glorification of Shrila Prabhupada that didn’t exactly hit the mark. They wrote “This man has saved the world.” Shrila Prabhupada did not like this characterization. After all, the first thing devotees tell outsiders is “You are not your man or woman body.” So how can someone who thinks he is a man save the world? Similarly, and this is my spin, there can be no woman guru since a guru is transcendental to this body. However, if a spiritually realized personality appears in a body of a man, woman or even child, then that position is absolute. Guru is not created by a body of legislatures. Guru is self realized and that means that a spiritual master is understand his position as Krishna dasa dasa dasanaudasa. I do not know why there is so much misunderstanding over this issue as it seems very plain and simple to me. There will come a time very soon when qualified women who are spiritually-conscious step forward and take this huge burden on their shoulders by the grace and order of Shrila Prabhupada. I simply pray that the GBC recognizes those devotees in both male and female bodies who are actually qualified through realization and tapasya and nothing else. This movement simply cannot weather any more individuals who seek the post due to a sense of self-prestige which contradicts everything a humble Vaishnava preceptor stands for. One who sits upon the Vyasa Asan must be the representative of Shri Vyasa both in learning and in character. A guru’s post is not dependent upon his disciples. His Divine Grace Shrila Gaura Kishore das Babaji Maharaja had one disciple and he was certainly a guru long before he gave the lovely name Varasvanabidebidayitayadasa to Shri Shrimad Bimala Prasad Dutt, later the Acharya of the entire Gaudiya Sampradaya for the first half of the Twentieth Century His Divine Grace Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Thakur.
I will close by offering my thanks to Mother Govinda Dasi for her thoughtful and well-considered article.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 4, 2012 @ 6:42 pm
Frankly. I cannot fathom from which corner of the Universe this article has originated. First the author writes that she is replying to “Govinda Dasi ACBSP”. For the kind information of the author, Shrimati Govinda dasi Mataji never writes her name with the initials of the exalted spiritual master following her name. The divine name of the pure devotee His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is not meant to be worn as a title or degree as one may tack PhD after one’s name to increase one’s profile, rank and prestige. Next, the author refers to Shrila Prabhupada with a casualness that can only be regarded as shocking or even offensive. A genuine disciple or in this case grand-disciple never refers to his spiritual master by his initials as this writer has with her repeated use of “SP”. When did Shrila Prabhupada ever refer to the Six Goswamis as the 6G’s or his own spiritual master by his initials.? Never. I do not know how such violations of Vaishnava etiquette make it beyond the respected team of Dandavats editors. For a genuine disciple this casual initial business just isn’t done.
Next the author appears to have some sort of crystal ball and can see the past because the author somehow knows that Govinda Dasi was some mere hippie for whom Shrila Prabhupada had to bend the rules of the sampradaya. That is another blunder because Govinda Dasi as Bonnie McElroy was never a hippie. She was a pious young lady as straight-laced as they come who went off to college in Texas. She may have meditated later in Golden Gate Park in 67, but that does not qualify one as a hippie. There may have been many hippies who became devotees, but she came from a different demographic. Mother Govinda Dasi was a skilled and accomplished artist who had spent years of discipline perfecting her rare abilities. Shrila Prabhupada appreciated her abilities and by his divine order her excellent and captivating pen and inks adorned the covers of the earliest Back To Godhead magazines in America. as well as the first edition of Teachings of Lord Chaitanya.
When I was initiated in 68 Shrimati Govinda Dasi was Shrila Prabhupada’s secretary. His Divine Grace gave her a saffron / yellowish sari of solid colour that spoke of devotion. To me, an observant disciple, the message was obvious. His Divine Grace wanted women to give their lives to preaching Krishna consciousness. And that is what a guru does, he or she preaches.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 4, 2012 @ 6:28 pm
Dear Akruranath das Prabhu,
Like the article’s author–who for purposes of disclosure happens to be my partner (since you are an attorney)–I am also a bit reticent to give the scientists too much credit. On the shoulders of modern scientific development we can lay blame for the acidification of the ocean, cancer causing muclear waste that is bombarding the earth, air pollution. poisonous substances in out foods. horrible epidemics, topsoil eradication. abortion, artificially keeping people alive only to lobby for euthanizeing them, the lunar hoax, drone bombs that destroy cities,,and a million other things you as a devotee are aware of. The demons are currently spraying the air with the Good-Lord-knows-what to artificially control weather. They are polluting the groundwater with fracking. The medical industry invent “syndromes” to sell psychotropic medicines to cure them. There is a floating plastic ocean the size of Texas in the Pacific that gags innocent sea life. All thanks to science. Sure science has benefitted me, hey, I’m glad to communicate with you this way over the scientific net. But that’s the point,, the internet was made for preaching Krishna’s message. If science is not dovetailed in the Lord’s service, it is demonic and that is the situation of 99% of the world’s scientists and their cursed discoveries that try to bend material Nature to their whims.
But that is another subject. Returning to the subject of the article, there is something I thought an academic and an intellectual like you would enjoy. There was a prof of Harvard in the early 50’s who became a night club comic, as his sense of humor was not appreciated at Harvard. I heard he lost his job and transferred to the more tolerant West Coast, UC at Santa Cruz, your neighborhood. Anyway. he sang a hilarious song about how mathematicians (naming Lobachevsky who is discussed in the article) and other scientists who engage in plagiarism though they cover their tracks by calling intellectual theft as research. So here is one mathematician pointing his finger at another. I think you’ll enjoy the humor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E
Funny, no? Bottom line, it’s all there in the Vedas. As Shrila Shri Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Thakur says, if all literature in the world were lost except Shrimad Bhagavatam, it would not be a great loss. Vasudeva sarvam iti, is it not Prabhuji? I always appreciate your input.
Your servant in Prabhupada,
Patita Pavana das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Nov 1, 2012 @ 2:56 pm
THis ranks amongst the funniest things I have ever seen in my life!
For those devotees who enjoy NASA Moon humor, please refer to the latest (Oct) issue of The Astrological Newsletter now available in the moving banner of Dandavats.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Nov 4, 2012 @ 11:19 am
Fate wears a cruel mask indeed for Nitai was the stuff of legends. In these days when many of us have grown lax in our execution of the highest principle, that of preaching the message of Shrila Prabhupada, Nitai was the Bhima and the Arjuna in the Great War on Maya. Like the Burning Man himself, Nitai was on fire with giving the essential wisdom of Krishna consciousness to everyone who fell within the purview of his vision. I never knew him well, except by hearing. Just as many have become devotees of Lord Krishna by hearing of the Lord’s glories from Shri Narada and Shrila Prabhupada, so I heard all about Nitai from Mother Anavadyangi devi. He stayed in a trailer at her place when he was setting the Burning Man Festival in Nevada on fire with the message of Sankirtan Yagna, a fire that burns to ashes all seeds of sin in its wake. Hearing of his glories, I telephoned him and was privileged to hear this rare mahatma’s enthusiasm, so much so that I have remained inspired to this day.
So why would this valuable soul be taken from Lord Chaitanya’s Sankirtan Army now when his leadership is most required? Obviously, Lord Krishna has a plan. What appeared as a brutal and bloody accident to our weakened eyes was nothing less that the Lord’s Own Hand taking His elect unto His eternal and transcendental shelter. We are pleased that our Nitai Prabhu left this world during the auspicious Uttarayana path when the Sun was moving in the North and during the waxing portion of the lunar month. As far as we lost and forlorn servants here on Earth are concerned, it is for us to summon our strengths, to re-ignite our enthusiasm and to follow, follow, follow his example. If we can be inspired by his example, and in so doing inspire others, then we truly will be a part of the legacy of this remarkable devotee, a legacy which serves Guru Maharaja Shrila Prabhupada in the highest capacity.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Feb 4, 2012 @ 1:02 pm
This is a very beautiful, simple and devotional story that has moved me and touched my heart. All glories to Shrila Prabhupada that his teachings have translated into such a deep understanding in the hearts of the devotees of his ISKCON family. Thank you Mata Phalini for taking the time to let us experience your feelings for Mother Smita and her son Abhaya.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 22, 2011 @ 7:54 pm
My dear Keshava Krishna das Prabhu,
Although this discussion revolves around democracy, the thrust of the article was meant to elevate the topic to a broader platform of enlightened governance based upon the Vedic model. Apart from the convenience of spreading Krishna consciousness under the form of democracy that Shrila Prabhupada praised in the 60’s and 70’s, the second reason the World Acharya (sometimes!) spoke well of it is that if the citizens can be educated then they could be encouraged to vote for a system that more closely reflects the Vedic model. For such a situation to arise, an army of fearless and uncompromising brahmanas with book bags is required (that would be us). In this way, Shrila Prabhupada predicted, the people could vote in those who would lead and protect their genuine interests. What we have seen in America in the past decade is that the powers that be have successfully enticed the people to vote away everything their form of government is meant to protect. Therefore, since that is possible, then a Vedic system can also be voted in, but this requires yagna performed with great force, sankirtan and the Holy Names. There really is no other way.
If we are to elevate our perspective and hence this topic, then we owe it to ourselves to examine the system of a powerful king as the autocratic overlord who rules by the strength of dharma though he bows to the brahmana preceptors. Although Krishna consciousness has indeed spread under democracy in America and later in Russia and other places, these models do not compare to the system of India’s kings that protected dharma for the most part right up into 4,000 years of Kali Yuga. Only in the past 1,000 years has this system fallen apart assisted in no small way by waves of mlecchas in different dresses and religions who invaded the Holy Lands of Bharatvarsha. I do not thin that it is naive to hope that the system of the Vedic king can be reinstituted.
As far as your example of North Korea is concerned, let us look at South Korea which is a very democratic place to be sure, but a country in which we devotees hardly have a significant presence. Christianity, Buddhism and other religions have spread across nations only due to royal patronage. Although those who do not know the past are destined to repeat it, others who understand the advantages of historical lessons can once again implement those aspects of world heritage that are laudable and good for mankind as a whole.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Jan 5, 2012 @ 7:41 pm
My dear Keshava Krishna das Prabhu,
Sorry, but I can’t buy the argument that “OK so democracy is not perfect, but look at North Korea.” Sure, the argument has merit, but it smacks of relativism, pointing out situations that are relatively better than others. It reminds me of the 60’s and whenever we’d open our mouths about the Viet Nam War or other aspects of American democracy, the patriots would get in our faces with, “If you don’t like America, go live in Russia your Communist” Just because there is a situation that is worse than the one we have doesn’t mean we should become complacent.
As an example of this dogocracy from 1981: A Golden Retriever named Bosco was elected Mayor of Sunol, California. Shortly thereafter, the entire town burned down. People do not realize that the destiny of the leader for better or worse affects the entire situation under him. Shrila Prabhupada mentioned many times that people have become dog like. One radio host asked His Divine Grace around 1970, “What if we don’t want to take part in your movement.” Prabhupada’s answer was to the point, “Then you can be cat or dog.” The response of the host was to go to a commercial break and hustle Prabhupada off the show. On the street Prabhupada said with a broad grin (to Mukunda), “So, what did you think of my answer?” He told many people, “You are having your sex life in a big bed and the dog is mating in the street. What is the difference between you?” He said that the dog is moving on four legs and the man is moving on four wheels, but the propensity is the same.
Yesterday a photographer enticed several thousand people to undress for a photo shoot as reported on BBC. It turns out that he goes all over the world, New York, Chile, German, Israel, Australia, and for his “art” thousands of people turn up, disrobe and lie down like fish in a net waiting for their karma to overtake them. So practically there is no difference between the dogs and these so called “voters”. Prabhupada called then dwi-pada pasus, “two-legged dogs.” When His Divine Grace visited the Morning Star Ranch, a hippie commune in California, many people moved here and there undressed. Prabhupada said that they would become trees in their next lives. That was when he told for the first time the story of Manigriva and Nalakuvera who offended Narada Muni by appearing shamelessly unclothed.
As long as dogs are in charge whether this sort of dog or that sort, this dogocracy will prevail. Only sankirtan can save us.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Jan 3, 2012 @ 8:56 am
For Krishna Keshava:
Your argument, though appearing logical in its assessment of the advantages of American democracy does not pertain to the present situation there. In the past nearly half century since Shrila Prabhupada landed in Boston, the country has seen radical changes towards a oligarchical, conspiratorial, global dictatorship run by a mega-corporation that owns the government. This is not mere hot-winded paranoic rhetoric but hard fact. The quality of the voting public in America has been depleted and diluted due to the country illegally allowing immigrants in simply for utilizing their votes, and forcing their votes by offering incentives that will appeal to them, like welfare and free medical care which are denied to natural citizens. Rigged voting machines are another problem. Further the “informed public” has been purposely dumbed down by a controlled media.
Shrila Prabhupada’s programme called for bending the then-“democracy” of the 70’s to our favor by preaching and teaching. His Divine Grace proved that the sankirtan yagna can indeed chase away the dark clouds of Kali Yuga. However, because we have not pursued this goal with the zeal we should have–and I am more guilty than anyone–therefore the forces of darkness are caving upon a once-almost-great nation. Shrila Prabhupada once remarked that the demi-gods would not come to this world to use the toilet. In the same way, many Americans are leaving that country and would not return there for the same purpose. Websites like happierabroad.com appeal to ex-pats who have found their valhalla, temporary as any situation is here in matrya-loka, away from America. It has gone too far downhill and only a full focus on the Holy Names, public chanting of the mahamantra, can save the country so that an educated public can make rational choices in elections.
I would say that the hope of the world lies today as it always has in India. That great country has made a wonderful showing in its defense from the very top of Shrimad Bhagavad Gita As It Is. Therefore, for any change, the results do not rest upon this or that form of government but how much Krishna consciousness is pushed onward aggressively in those places.
To me one of the great unsung heroes of the sankirtan movement is Brahmananda Prabhu of Vrindavana. He organized the first saffron army and made sure the emphasis was on chanting and distribution of literature. Those in Vrindavana may inquire of his opinion regarding sankirtan efficacy
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Jan 2, 2012 @ 5:53 pm
Thanks for the Time Out Sita Ram das Prabhuji, (And for the wry comment “pitfalls of devotees’ discussions”, Veda Prabhu).
Let us therefore return to the subject matter at hand, the excellent article by Smt Abhaya Mudra Dasi, “Pitfalls of Democracy”. A client of ours who was once a minister in the government of a dictator and then became his country’s elected President, gave me an unforgettable quote by Winston Churchill: “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other forms of government we have tried.” Of course the very best quote came from Shrila Prabhupada when Nixon “defeated” McGovern: “If all the little dogs vote, who will they vote for? That is how you have elected big dogs.”
America, which is not even a democracy but a Republic, wishes to benefit the world with a forced totalitarianism democracy. It is a formula for a “better life” through the voting power of bombs and artillery. America opposes all totalitarian regimes except for countries that are ruled by Monarchs and who provide oil to America. Look how many millions have died unnecessarily in America’s “democratization” of victim countries, Libya and Iraq. When Shrila Prahupada first arrived in America, this was his original message. that animals have claws, cave men had rocks, and modern democracies have the atom bomb. But there is no difference in consciousness, and Krishna consciousness is required.
The following article appeared on the PAMHO forum today, posted by one Shriman Shyamkund das Prabhu:
From: Throw Them All Out (by Peter Schweizer – University of Stanford Hoover Institute)
“Peter Schweizer documents that Hedge Fund Directors are able to
beat the Stock Market 5% of the time. These are professional managers of
large portfolios. It is expected that professional managers would be able to
beat the market. However, according to Peter Schweizer’s new book, US
Congressman beat the market 8% of the time through insider trading. These are
the people that are governing the US and passing laws that regulate others.
Cheaters running the US government. Additionally, a few months ago, the US
Government’s debt for just Student Loans exceeds ALL, not a few, but ALL
credit card debt in the US. Hence, the problem is with the government leaders.
More can be said about the role of the Federal Reserve, Fannie Mae, Freddie
Mac, and other quasi governmental agencies.”
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 31, 2011 @ 10:04 am
My dear Vishnujana das Prabhu,
Please accept the dandavats of this poor fool. Thank you for the divine nectar of devotional kindness in your choice of words about me. I am forever in your debt and beg the opportunity to serve you at some point. For now let me say that it is wonderful to hear your preaching, your ability to mix common sense, a solid worldview, knowledge of the world around us and present your vision through the lens of Shrila Prabhupaa’s Bhagavad Gita As It Is. When I see such perspicacious preaching imbued with very personal love and devotion for the Shri Shri Founder-Acharya, I am content that the torchlight has been handed down successfully. You are a worthy disciple of a worthy spiritual master.
Regarding the varnashram project, it is very basic and rustic at present, but we do have the farm house and the property and are working the land. The organic produce is like heaven here in the Rila Hills. We invite any devotees who are looking to establish themselves in one of the most gorgeous locations on earth to correspond with us,. Even now in the middle of winter we are able to bring in bushels of plums apples and other fruits growing especially citizens of the EU wild around the property.
I do hope that we will be able to continue corresponding a would appreciate hearing from you at my address
Please let me know how I may serve you and thereby please Shrila Prabhupada,
Your humble servant,
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 15, 2011 @ 10:40 pm
I offer my humble obeisances to my dearmost Godbrother Shriman Basu Ghosh das Adhikary. He is completely surrendered at the lotus feet of Shrila Prabhupada and from the very beginning has entirely devoted himself to the great cause of Krishna consciousness without any thought of himself. He sees ISKCON as his transcendental family as much as his own family and offers his support to each member equally and with a heart that is full of Vaishnava compassion. Through him Shri Krishna has built a grand temple in Gujarat which is the home of the world’s most pious souls. Nonetheless, by the grace of Shrila Prabhupada he continues to add piety to piety by giving even Lord Krishna’s devotees a clearer and more focused understanding of bhakti by the unbreakable strength of the great Shri Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya sampradaya. Basu Ghosh has become the recipient of the mercy of Mahaprabhu and thus the Soothing Moonbeams of the Golden Lord Gaurachandra are innundating Gujarat state. Basu Ghosh is an example of what we can accomplish if we remain always fixed, steadily and unflinching at the feet of Lord Chaitanya’s divinely empowered representative, the World Acharya Shrila Prabhupada. I bow low in the dust at the feet of my blessed Godbrother Shriman Basu Ghosh das Prabhu and beg his mercy that in some future existence I will learn the secret of serving Shri Guru and Gauranga as he has done without any selfish motivation whatsoever. Basu Ghosh das is the deliverer of fallen souls and he is also the deliverer of my fallen soul. There is no way that any member of the Hare Krishna Movement can ever repay Shriman Basu Ghosh das for his example of what it means to serve Shrila Prabhupada unhesitatingly. Thank you for this great example which I will try to take to heart if I can only but hear the sound of the holy name with proper concentration. No silent and quiet example speaks louder than that of this saintly Guru Bhai. Let others accuse me of being over the top. I stand by what I have written. Basu Ghosh das ki jai ho.
-Patita Pavana das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 18, 2011 @ 8:09 pm
In the whole history of ISKCON there has never been a devotee who is more concerned for the well-being of his godbrothers than Shriman Basu Ghosh Prabhu. He never poses as a saint, he acts like an average Joe who is interested in your friendship. Yet he is intimately associated with Shrila Prabhupada and Shri Krishna and is always praying for the benefit of his fellow members of ISKCON. He is a deliverer aof fallen souls. If we were all as selfless as Shriman Basu Ghosh Prabhu, then how nicely this great family could progress. I offer my humble obeisances in the dust of the lotus feet of Shriman Basu Ghosh das Prabhu again and again. The few moments of his association I have had with him over the years remain with me and pull me closer to Shrila Prabhupada’s lotus feet. I am honored and humbled to be his godbrother.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Oct 3, 2011 @ 2:21 pm
O He Vaishnava Thakur!
I never met you and now I will not be able to behold you in your wondrous glory of serving Shrila Prabhupada always shining as you are with the fine intellect that Shri Krishna gifted you with. You were the shelter of ISKCON’s upcoming generation of intellectuals and brahmanas, a thoroughly devoted soul who only knew Shrila Prabhupada as your Loving Guide and Eternal Father. I always think of you as Shrila Prabhupada’s pure devotee, completely unmotivated by any sense of personal gratification, always eager to reject all sorts of personal benefits as a sacrifice at the Lotus Feet of Shri Govardhanadhari.
By the Divine Arrangement of Shri Krishna I met your worthy and devoted son this very year and expressed to him that he send my dandavats to your lotus feet. So through the putra I have met the father. I know that in your tireless execution of bhakti you have left your blessings behind for us lowly souls whose only wish is follow you back to Home back to Godhead, the lovely fields of Vraja where you will associate with the Lord in the most intimate of ways.
Your departure has created a flood of tears, but may those merge with the holy Yamuna and render us pure in the oblation of your divine memory.
All glories to Shrila Gopiparanadhana das Prabhu, pure devotee of Shri Guru and Gauranga.
I beg to become your humble servant.
Patita Pavana das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Sep 15, 2011 @ 10:43 am
Naturally the Jewish infiltration of ISKCON is terrifying. But what really scares me is the Irish take-over of ISKCON whenever I see Parashurama Prabhu’s posts and videos!
PS. I know whoever put this up had a sense of humor, and so do I!
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Aug 27, 2011 @ 6:12 pm
It may be noted that the author of this article, Shriman Lenko Slavov Prabhu, submitted this uncompromising essay of pure Krishna-katha as a mid-term paper for his philosophy course at the American University of Bulgaria, And he received an A- grade for his notable efforts. Therefore, by his precedent he has proven that it is absolutely unnecessary to compromise or water down the principles of Krishna consciousness when presenting the matter of pure devotional service before standard educational forums.
Neither does his example end there. Shriman Lenko has founded a Vedic Club on campus which has spread the divine Gospel of the Gita from the Gaudiya Vaishnava standpoint to hundreds of students. It should be noted that he has performed this task with minimal devotee association and that he was brought into Krishna consciousness purely by the purchase of a Shrimad Bhagavatam volume a mere two years ago. He observes the regulative principles of brahmacharya strictly, and chants minimally 16 rounds daily. He has created a veritable tirtha of Krishna consciousness in a part of a small Eastern European country that had previously seen very little devotee association. Today, his weekly meetings, classes, kirtans and feasts are a fixture on the campus of the American University. Shrila Prabhupada must be very pleased. May the sanikrtan movement inaugurated in the West by the World Acharya continue to shelter the world.
-Patita Pavana das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Jan 31, 2011 @ 1:12 pm
From Patita pavana das Adhikary:
Regarding the untimely passing of Shrimati Marudvati devi dasi, Shriman Hari Krishna das has extolled her virtues and glories departure in the following words:
“Our unfortunate choice to prefer our ego over Krishna is hard to understand. Specially now that we fully experience its consequences, we can wonder how could have ever made this mistake. But we also know that Krishna wants nothing more then that all living entities, all his parts and parcels, be freed from their self inflicted suffering. Anyone who participates in this project of compassion, of helping conditioned souls, including himself, to become liberated from the suffering of this world, is greatly blessed and is very dear to Krishna. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has shown us this example.
Marutvati was her whole life dedicated to doing this, raising her children and instilling in them the core values of Vaishnavism. Wherever she could she would help people understand Krishna Consciousness, make people understand our philosophy and support our movement in every practical way. During her last minutes she was uttering the name of Krishna while she was listening to Srila Prabhupada chanting japa. Our daughter Vraja Sundari was chanting next to her as well. I could not imagine a more auspicious way of leaving the body. Therefore I feel very confident that she has achieved a great spiritual destination, the details to be worked out by Krishna in his infinite wisdom.”
Hari Krishna das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 19, 2010 @ 9:44 am
From Patita Pavana das:
Personally I joined ISKCON very happily in 1967-8 because I was tired of being lied to by teachers, priests, scientists, educators, politicians and the world at large. The truth I found then is the same that I serve to this day, the pure guru-vani emanating from the lotus lips of the empowered shuddha-bhakta. Understanding that truth is based upon a simple formula, following the four regulative principles and chanting 16 rounds of the mahamantra daily. Your website speaks in favor of drinking coffee on Ekadashi “because it is not a bean.” When Prabhupada said that coffee is an intoxicant, where is there a question of drinking coffee? Seriously, Varanadi, are you chanting your 16 rounds a day?
-Patita Pavana das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Jan 7, 2011 @ 7:44 pm
From Patita Pavana das
on some sites wherein doubts about the validity of Krishna consciousness are welcomed. To doubt the words of the Guru Maharaja and blaspheme him is compared to a mad elephant destroying the foliage in the woods. Similarly, a mad elephant offense at the feet of the pure devotee destroys one’s creeper of devotion. It is skating on very thin ice to offer evidence from outside our parampara that Krishna ate meat as you have stated in this discussion. Even today meat is not allowed in Vrindavana in pursuance of Lord Krishna’s example 5,000 years ago. We accept the words of guru-parampara as they emanate from our own sampradaya, and do not care for other sources whatever they say.
As far as we are concerned, anything that contradicts the verdict of our Acharya is a mis-translation or was presented for another time and clime that does not concern us in the least, and is therefore of no concern or consideration. It is simply a disturbance and we do not care for it. As far as those amongst us that wish to harmonize with outrageous criticisms that Shrila Prabhupada made any error whatsoever, I will never do that. That is not ISKCON.
Regarding the statements that you provided by Shrila Prabhupada that these scam artist “scientsts” did go to the Moon, such explanations were all issued in response to those misguided individuals who would argue in favor of the great lunar hoax. In Kali Yuga, there are many blockheads who argue against the cause of guru-vani and Krishna Consciousness incessantly. So for such persons as these, whether dressed in dhoti or tilak or not, there are those statements by Guru Maharaja:. “Even if they did go to the Moon, what is the benefit of bringing back rocks and sand with a price tag of 28 billion dollars?” None of the statements you provided, however, contradict in any way Prabhupada’s over riding instructions regarding the crass forgery of the lunar landing hoax.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Jan 7, 2011 @ 7:43 pm
From Patita Pavana das:
Varanadi and Madhavananda have responded to my mention of Bill Kaysing, the father of the “Moon Conspiracy Movement.” Actually, I consider Shrila Prabhupada the father of the Moon Conspiracy movement, because His Divine Grace plainly said that the scientists and politicians all understand the nature of this spaceman. That means there was a conspiracy. And Shrila Prabhupada said it first, from the moment he saw it on TV, as you can see from Smt Malati’s talk. So Prabhupada is the father of the Moon Conspiracy flim-flam, but let us now talk about Bill Kaysing who was a good and truthful person.
It is correct that Bill was a scholar at Rocketdyne, and not an engineer with NASA as I have been told. That is just a detail, and let us not get sidetracked. As far as I am concerned I do not follow Bill Kaysing. I follow Shrila Prabhupada. I have recently exchanged letters with the late Bill Kaysing’s daughter Wendy. She said that his favorite quote was to “stand up for truth even if the heaven’s crack.” He used to take her to a garden when she was a little girl and show her the flowers, calling them “God’s artistry.” This is the same example Shrila Prabhupada gave. Prabupada said that a flower is proof of the existence of God, the Supreme Artist. So whether Bill was an engineer or a janitor, he was a nice, theistic man and he spoke words of truth. I applaud that because Shrila Prabhupada valued truth leading to the Supreme Absolute Truth above all other things.
Varanadi, I have been to your website by your invitation. I was very sorry to read thereupon the story of your heartbreak that you suffered when your spiritual master let you and the other disciples down. Still, the mistakes of the guru are no reason to doubt the Founder Acharya who spoke as directly empowered by Shri Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
It is not hollow rittwicism to say that in the event of a fall-down by a spiritual master, that the grandfather Guru will take over. When a small child’s patents are lost, the grandfather and mother and adopt that child. Why should it be any different in our spiritual family? Prabhupada said that his disciples could pray to Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur because the grandfather is always kinder than the father. So in this way, all members of ISKCON are part of the same family and lineage and there is no difference. I am bringing this up because I have heard of your criticisms of the Founder Acharya
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Jan 7, 2011 @ 7:40 pm
From Patita Pavana das:
Regarding the bogus Moon landing that the American government bamboozled the world with, US President William Jefferson Clinton says on page 156 of his best selling auto-biography “My Life:”
(Recalling an event in 1969, he writes:) “Just a month before, Apollo 11 astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong had left their colleague aboard spaceship Columbia and walked on the moon, beating by five months President Kennedy’s goal of putting a man on the moon before the decade was out. The old carpenter asked me if I really believed it had happened. I said, ‘Sure, I saw it on television.’ He disagreed. He said that he did not believe it for a minute, that “them television fellers” could make things look real that weren’t. Back then I thought he was a crank. During my eight years in Washington I saw some things on television that made me wonder if he wasn’t ahead of his time.”
We must wonder why an American President, a lawyer known as “Slick Willy” to his critics, would distance himself from the increasingly unpopular notion that America has put astronuts on the Moon. Could it be that he feels that the story is so close to science fiction that when it unravels he wants to be on the side of those who understand the truth of the greatest hoax of the Twentieth Century?
In presenting the facts of the lunar conspiracy, I have given many different reasons offered by Shrila Prabhupada ‘s as to why walking on the Moon was absolutely ripped out of the pages of the comic books. Yet, I have been criticized here for “poor research.” Nonetheless, no proponent of the opposite point of view has shown that Prabhupada ever gave the slightest indication that the Moon landing was a fact. No one can provide such a quote because such a quote does not exist. Hints or statements that such a position does exist are mere bluffs just as the fictitious Moon shots were smoke and mirrors.
There are many who conveniently claim Prabhupada changed his mind on certain key issues. He never did that. His Divine Grace was most firm in his absolute convictions. Similarly, the rittwics say that Prabhupada changed his mind in late 1977, stating that no disciple could become guru. Like that, some pretend that Prabhupada adjusted his views about the Moon landing. But no genuine evidence has ever surfaced to prove that once having taken an important stand, the World Acharya reversed it. That was not Prabhupada and that is not an acharya.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 30, 2010 @ 4:09 pm
“They are called punah punash charvita charvanam —chewing the chewed. They are being baffled every step and still they are trying to overcome the laws of nature; this is their foolishness. Naradhamah. Mayayapahrita-jnana. Maya is so strong upon them that their so-called scientific knowledge is useless. In 1958 when I wrote that book Easy Journey to Other Planets, I write in that book that this moon planet is simply childish and waste of time, and actually it has proved. So I was not a scientist, neither I am a scientist, how did I say? I said on the strength of the version in the Vedic literature that it is not possible. You cannot. We are conditioned, we are conditioned to remain in a certain atmosphere; we cannot surpass that. Just like we are animals of the land, we cannot go to the water; and the aquatics, fishes, they are animals of the water, they cannot live on the land. Why these rascals are trying to overcome the laws of nature? How foolish rascals they are, just imagine. Any child can understand, but these rascals cannot understand. Their challenge is that ‘We are trying to overcome the laws.’ Is it not? That is their challenge. Therefore they are rascals, naradhamah mayayapahrita-jnana. They are attempting in something which they cannot perform, therefore they are rascals, mudha. So better than to become more and more mudha, better to take to Krishna consciousness, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam, that will make your life successful. Why should you imitate these rascals? Hmm? What is your saying, what do you think? We say they are rascals; what do you think?”
Yogeshvara spoke for the whole gathering. “They are all rascals.”
With everyone laughing, Prabhupäda declared, “That’s right. Anyone protest against this? He’ll be another rascal! Don’t try to overcome the laws of nature; that is not possible. You have been given this land, this planet. Live here, grow your food, chant Hare Krishna and live peacefully. Why should we go to the moon planet?”…
BEAT THEM WITH SHOES
Fingering a flower on his garland he said, “Just see how beautifully it is colored. This aesthetic sense; Krishna knows how it will become beautiful, svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya cha, construction of the flower. And there is no intelligence.”
“Chance,” I said.
Prabhupada sat back shaking his head and laughing. “So beat them with shoes. And when they protest, ‘Oh, it is chance. Don’t mind, it is by chance I am beating.'” (3rd Aug. 1976, La Nouvelle Mayapur)
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 24, 2010 @ 9:48 am
Having said that, we cannot ignore that Shriman Hari Sauri Prabhu in his five published volumes (with two more to come) has captured Shrila Prabhupada’s mood and expression—hence his world-saving message–like no other writer. What he has written is taken from taped conversations he himself taped. Therefore it is up to the astute devotee to investigate this encyclopedic presentation of the mind of a shaktyavesh avatara with as much effort as he can invest. For the faithful disciple, the conclusion will be the same. Sugar tasted from any side is sweet, whether sampled in bits or swallowed wholesale.
From a historical point of view, the fact is that the rascal demonic American scientists and politicians (under the guidance of the Nazi scientists like Werner Von Braun) totally faked the Moon landing as one of many hoaxes perpetrated by America to validate further suffering for the very people who elect the politicians and worship the scientists. This is all public record. However, for those who need to see more facets of the issue from Shrila Prabhupada’s point of view, here’s another episode from A Transcendental Diary:
ANY CHILD CAN UNDERSTAND–BUT THESE RASCALS CANNOT
1.) Of course, no discussion with Shrila Prabhupada can be complete without him exposing the flaws of the scientists. He used their failed attempts to go to other planets as a prime example. “They’re refused, ‘No, you cannot go.'” Then he delighted the assembly with his challenge. “‘Live there. Go!’ It is practical. We see the moon planet is there. ‘We have got machine, we can go.’ But you cannot go. This is laws of nature; this is practically proof. But they are so rascal, fool, they are going to another planet. They do not think with the one planet we have already failed.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 24, 2010 @ 9:47 am
From Patita Pavana das Adhikary:
Our position as disciples is to simply accept Shri Guru-vani without adding our own “I think” or “grey area” (as two letters above have suggested) to the mix. Neither should devotees like Payonidhi or myself be banned from this forum for expressing allegiance to our spiritual master’s instructions, as one person suggested above.
His Divine Grace Shrila Prabhupada informed me in no uncertain terms that I am a complete fool, and therefore my only hope will be found in repeating his words. “You fool and rascal… Just say exactly what I have said. Nothing more.” So in pursuance of that divine instruction, “my” article sets out to accomplish exactly that. Nonetheless, when even NASA engineers like Bill Kaysing show how the Moon launch was a total sham, and mountains of hard evidence have surfaced as seen on sites like http://www.moonmovie.com, there appears no room for discussion in this matter whatsoever. As Shrimati Malati pointed our in her brilliant talk in the above article, it is really unwise to allow our very future in the Spiritual Kingdom become jeopardized over this issue, especially when experts agree. As devotees seeking perfection of service unto the twin lotus feet of Shri Guru, we have higher mountains to scale.
As far as one person’s suggestion (above) to investigate the subject more fully, that is an individual choice. Prabhupada said that all his books were presented simply to get you and I to chant Hare Krishna. Out of his ocean of compassion, the shuddha-bhakta welcomed both scholars as well as unlettered fools like me. For those of us who are not capable of becoming pandits in Vedic literature and language, “Chant Hare Krishna and be happy” (along with following the rules agreed upon at initiation), is enough to guarantee the simple devotee’s ticket back to home back to Godhead. Similarly, there is no need to read further into the subject of scientific forgery than what is stated here, in order to form a correct understanding of the World Acharya’s opinion in the matter of the faked Moon shot.
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 24, 2010 @ 9:45 am
Very good advice that the readers should study the diaries more thoroughly. In fact that is the purpose of the article, to get Prabhupada’s faithfuls to do just that. Shrila Prabhupada kicked the demonic scientists in the face with logic of every sort. Here’s more;
LICK IT UP LIKE A DOG
Now with a new group of senior men surrounding him, Prabhupäda again raised the Mars issue, questioning what was the use of going. “What is their idea?”
Atreya Rsi said, “They constantly want to discover more and more so that they can claim that they are lords.”
“But what is that discovery?” Prabhupäda asked. “You simply go and see? That’s all?”
Atreya could see the pointlessness of it and said there was no really valid purpose.
Rädhäballabha said that it was considered advancement of knowledge.
When Gurudäsa said “They want to colonize because there is overpopulation on this planet,” Prabhupäda mocked him. “Eh? Another rascal!”
Gurudäsa grinned and said, “They want to put the American flag on the moon and say, ‘It is ours.'”
Prabhupäda struck at the nationalistic mentality with biting humor and sarcasm. “And then lick up. ‘Here is American flag.’ And then like dog, lick up urine!” His graphic comparison had everyone in stitches. “So lick up, then dog lick urine. It is useless. Dog’s business.”
When we stopped laughing, Pusta said a little more seriously, ” Prabhupäda, they feel they should explore the unknown.”
“That will remain everlastingly unknown,” Prabhupäda said. “They’ll never be able to push. Even with the speed of mind and air they go many, many millions of years, it will still be. This verse of Brahma-samhita, panthäs tu koöi-sata-vatsara-sampragamyo väyor athäpi manaso muni-puìgavänäm/ so’ py asti yat-prapada-sémny avicintya-tattve. It is inconceivable. It will never be done. They have some vague idea, ‘There is no life. There is this. There is that.’ Real knowledge they’ll never get. Real knowledge you’ll get from Bhägavata.”
As we walked along the riverside, with the early morning traffic steadily increasing, Prabhupäda asked what the scientists say about the sun.
Tripuräri Mahäräja replied, “They think it’s too hot for life to exist there.”
“So how Krishna was there?” Prabhupäda asked.
“They don’t believe that,” Rädhäballabha said.
“So how can I believe you?” Prabhupäda returned. “If you don’t believe Krishna, shall I have to believe you?”
20 JULY 197
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 20, 2010 @ 1:06 pm
What a truly wonderful episodein the life of the World Acharya. Truly, we are indebted to HH Giriraja Swami for this important recollection.
Patit Uddharan das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 18, 2010 @ 7:20 am
Lovely article. Very inspiring to read Lakshman Prabhu’s descriptions. Thanks for the manasa-yatra, Prabhu.
Patita pavana das
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Dec 7, 2010 @ 10:10 am
Fourth, you have shown the vast superiority of Vedic astrology. Shrila Prabhupada did enjoy astrology as a science, though His Divine Grace advised that its best use was in matchmaking as far as devotee couples are concerned. Prabhupada once quipped, “The Western astrologers cannot predict the future, nor do they even know the present.” This is very true since, due to their visibly erroneous calculations, neither the Western astrologers nor astronomers can fathom in which constellations the planets are moving. By the grace of the King of Vaishnava Poets, Shrila Krishnadas Kaviraja Goswami whom you have quoted so nicely, the verifiable antiquity of jyotish shastra remains an indisputable fact.
So by having demonstrated the philosophical aspect of astrology and having shown the secret behind those mystifying tables, you have used this energy in Shri Krishna’s service. That is the basis: everything for Krishna. Thanks very much for bringing all these points to light.
Your servant in Shrila Prabhupada,
Patita Pavana das Adhikary
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Nov 19, 2010 @ 1:00 pm
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My dear Natabaradas Prabhuji,
Dandavats to you. Very nice article and thanks for remembering my literary contribution to Vidya magazine from 1979. I wrote hundreds of such published articles in the early days of ISKCON, before Prabhupada’s rag tag army was widely accepted, as encouraged by Shrila Prabhupada and tutored by Mukunda Maharaja.
Your article serves as a very valuable contribution in several ways. First it points to the great antiquity of astrology as a serious Vedic science that was understood by the mahabhagavatas. It is said that as deep as one is inclined to go into astrology, that astrology can enter deeper because it represents the mind of God in ordering the individual destinies of all living entities. Therefore, who, but the Supreme Personality of Godhead Shri Krishna, can really be an astrologer? As you will recall when we used to discuss astrology back in 1973 in London, there were maybe two or three books in English in London. Today you can get over a thousand, but still only a fraction of the vast science has been translated.
Second, the article demonstrates under which constellations the Supreme Lord may choose to appear by His Own Sweet Will. It is noteworthy that Mahaprabhu appeared under predominantly manushya-gana nakshatras undoubtedly since He was Krishna Himself appearing here on this world of man as His Own Pure Devotee. Nonetheless, since the Lord was a “covered incarnation” one must take this sort of view in deciphering and understanding his covered stars. Hence, the brilliance of His maternal grandfather Shripad Nilambhar Chakravarti, who predicted the Lord’s advent as the planets approached their respective positions.
Third, you have shined your own jyoti upon the Vedic system of time measurement in the form of dandas, palas, etc. As the world has noticed, the present generation of Indians has produced many brilliant minds as an indication of India’s position as a budding world leader in the near future. Judging from the hundreds of letters I receive from Indian, such persons who are becoming devotees. And as they rediscover their heritage by Shrila Prabhupada’s grace, they are eager to reconnect with the enduring scientific brilliance of their past. Therefore, I am sure that many astute minds, including mathematically-inclined Westerners, will appreciate your exposition on the Vedic methods of time measurement
» Posted By Patita Pavana On Nov 19, 2010 @ 12:59 pm
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