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Sitalatma your argument is not strong milliones of people take prasadam at ISKCON restaurants, at Ratha Yatras , at temples at ISKCON festivals , no one sees it as “food “for only beggars, often they pay for taking prasadam
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 03.11.2012 @ 05:42
Wherever there is the most need is the best place to distribute prasadam ,,,,,Srila Prabhupada told us to focus on the poor also: Letter to Dhrstaketu: 74-03-16
Now I am especially concerned to distribute grains, rice, wheat in the form of dahl and rice prasadam to hungry people all over India. The people here are very disturbed because, partly due to the punishment of Nature, and partly due to the mismanagement of the demon class of men, food is not available. If the people do not even have sufficient food they will not even be able to receive spiritual instructions. So I am hopeful that if we can widely distribute free foodstuffs to the people of India, by giving it out at our centers as well as by traveling parties to villages, we will win over the whole country and the whole world by this activity on Krsna’s behalf.
Letter to: Tamala Krsna Maharaja : 74-01-11
Yes, I fully agree that “What is the use of a temple if there is no prasadam distribution?'’ Prasadam distribution on a large scale must be resumed. Such a temple where there is no such distribution has no value, I agree.
Conversation Allahabad, January 13, 1977
In all our temples the prasada distribution should be so random (?), that within ten miles nobody should remain hungry. There are many persons in India, they are half time hungry. So if you distribute prasadam, “Come over here. You are hungry, take prasadam. If I cannot supply daily, I’ll supply at least two days, three days weekly.”
In this lecture of 73 ,Srila Prabhupada says :Temple worship means to distribute the prasadam to the poor
Prabhupada’s Lectures Initiation 1973
Temple worship means to distribute the prasadam to the poor. That is temple worship. Temple worship does not mean that vou, you bring some rice from the neighborers and cook it and eat yourself and sit, sleep down, nice. No. Temple worship means you must distribute prasadam…. The sannyasi should worship the Deity in the temple and feed the poor. Poor does not mean that one who has no legs, no ears, or no… Poor… Everyone who is spiritually poor, he should be given, prasadam. ….
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 31.10.2012 @ 04:47
Actually prasadam distribution to the poor and rich is actual charity, and the poor need it more , a vaisnava is compassionate not a selfish monster, Srila Prabhupada stated no one should go hungry in the radius of 10 miles of a temple ,that is one of many instructiones for prasadam distribution.I have been distributing books and sometimes prasadam since 34 years, why not do both.Harinama, bookdistribution and prasadam distribution is the 3 weapons against maya….Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada wanted all grhasthas to give charity to the poor there is no better charity than giving them prasadam and books so dear Murari join us if you are not already doing this..do not be idle
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 29.10.2012 @ 19:59
We are born with nothing in this material world and leave with nothing at death, and everything in between is given to us to worship Nitai Gaura and Radha and Krsna
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 01.11.2012 @ 10:48
Srila Prabhupada did not allow salary in ISKCON or that it should be used for anyones personal business:
Morning Walk “Varnasrama College”- March 14, 1974, Vrndavana
“Brahmana cannot accept any salary. Just like you have accepted me as your acarya, but you do not pay me any salary. This is forbidden. The teacher will not accept salary. Then he comes down to the sudra platform. The sudra accepts salary. I serve you, you pay me. And the brahmana will distribute knowledge freely, and the ksatriya will give protection to the brahmana. This is the Vedic system. Even in fifty years ago, education in India, there was no charges. A learned brahmana will sit down in corner of a neighborhood and all the children will come there. They will learn primary education. And the parents of the children will send, somebody will send rice, somebody will send dal… Just like we are maintaining, by collecting. Not here, but in Bombay, our centre is collecting and distributing.
“The whole system was that. Love exchange. I give you some service; you give me something, out of your love. Dadati pratigrhnati. Love means six . I give you something, you give me something. I give you something for eating, you also give me something for eating. Dadatipratigrhnati bhunkte bhojayate, guhyam akhyati prcchati. If I am in trouble, I express my mind, I open my mind before you, and you also try to help me. These are the six signs of love. That is Vedic civilization.Everything exchange of love. No business, mercantile. All right, let us have kirtana. Hare Krsna.”
Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.24-Los Angeles, June 22, 1972
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 29.10.2012 @ 04:00
Bhanu Swami translated the Isopanisad with the commentaries of Vedanta Desika an acarya in the Sri Sampradaya line and there in the purport to Isavasyam idam sarvam sloka, he states that those who worship Krsna for money are not actual devotees of Lord Vasudeva..this always comes to mind…when there is discussion about money…
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 26.10.2012 @ 02:36
What a nice discussion, I like to add Srila Prabhupadas : âIn our society, everyone, either a brahmacari or sannyasi or grhastha, who has dedicated his life and soul for this movement, they are all on the same level of sannyasiâ¦.Nobody should try to claim any extra honor on account of an official position.â
(8-30-69) And yes there is such a thing that devotees not being properly treated GBC’s also sometiems makes mistakes
and are not infallible, but yes there is no alternative to having a GBC.But I would like to see a ministry of Justice and ISCKON resolve that deals with internal issues…for example when presenting all sastric evidences about Janmastami fasting a few years back ,I was dealt with very harshly though Srila Prabhupada wanted strict fasting in Janmastami..I am just giving this as an example in some ways there can be improvements…..on an issue like this I do believe the GBC should want devotees to be educadet to do the right thing and understand why…….hope this does not sound like holier than though ,which is not the case at all.
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 21.10.2012 @ 16:27
Thanks for clarifying this: (this is the letter you are referring too)
My Dear Hamsaduta,
Please accept my blessings. I have received your letter of Oct. 5. “Money is the honey goes so far as it is employed for Krishna consciousness. The body is undoubtedly a material vehicle but when it acts for Krishna Consciousness it becomes spiritualized. By the grace of Krishna material energy can be transformed to spiritual energy & spiritual energy is never deteriorated. To be in Krishna Consciousness means to be in Spiritual energy. More in my next. Hope you are well.
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Srimad Bhagavatam has stated:
SB 2.2.3: For this reason the enlightened person should endeavor only for the minimum necessities of life while in the world of names. He should be intelligently fixed and never endeavor for unwanted things, being competent to perceive practically that all such endeavors are merely hard labor for nothing.
SB 2.2.7: Who else but the gross materialists will neglect such transcendental thought and take to the nonpermanent names only, seeing the mass of people fallen in the river of suffering as the consequence of accruing the result of their own work?
Srila Rupa Goswami has quoted some verses in his Padyavali about real wealth:
aishvaryam yac cetana va yad-amshah
avirbhutam tan-mahah krishna-nama
tan me sadhyan sadhanam jivanam
If the opulence or knowledge of many millions of universes were clustered together, they would hardly equal a small fragment of the glory of Krishnaâs holy name. Krishnaâs holy name is my life. It is the goal of my life. It is the means I will employ to attain the goal of my life.
kriyatam yadi kuto âpi labhyate
tatra laulyam api mulyam ekalam
janma-koti-sukritair na labhyate
Pure devotional service in Krishna consciousness cannot be had even by pious activity in hundreds and thousand of lives. It can be attained only by paying one priceâthat is, intense greed to obtain it. If it is available somewhere, one must purchase it without delay.*
âShri Ramananda Raya
I think devotees will love this one:
vicintyani punah punah
tvan-namani bhavantu nah
O Lord, just as a miser continually collects, counts and remembers his money, in the same way let us continually collect, count, and remember Your holy names,
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 19.10.2012 @ 21:54
Actually Krsna is the honey not money:
na dhanam na janam na sundarim
kavitam va jagadisa kamaye
mama janmani jamanisvare
bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki tvayi
“O Lord of the universe, I do not desire material wealth,
materialistic followers, a beautiful wife or fruitive activities
described in flowery language. All I want, life after life, is
unmotivated devotional service unto You.”
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 19.10.2012 @ 15:04
strong or soft preaching lets first remember that Srila Prabhupada wanted all ISKCON memebers to distribute his books, in SB purport 7.9.44 purport he writes: “Rather, every member of the KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a consciousness movement is interested in going door to door to try to convince people about the teachings of Bhagavad-gÄ«tÄ As It Is, the teachings of Lord Caitanya. That is the purpose of the Hare KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a movement. The members of the KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a consciousness movement must be fully convinced that without KrÌ£sÌ£nÌ£a one cannot be happy.”
Comment Posted By Payonidhi Das On 14.10.2012 @ 16:03