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» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 17, 2014 @ 12:18 pm
“In every birth one can get father and mother, but to get the spiritual master and Krsna, that is not possible in every birth. That is only possible in this human form. The cats and dogs, they have got their father and mother. Therefore if we become father, mother like cats and dogs, there is no need of such… Krsna-guru nahi mile bhaja… The father helps the children to achieve Krsna and guru, that is real father. [break] …they avoid that trap, they avoid association of women. But these women are not ordinary women. They are preachers. They are preachers. They are Vaisnava. By their association, one becomes a Vaisnava”
Morning Walk — March 27, 1974, Bombay
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 1, 2014 @ 3:51 pm
There is one pastime where one gentleman is complaining to Prabhupada that some of his disciples are not pronouncing Krishna’s name properly and Prabhupada responded along the lines of:
‘don’t worry Krishna knows who they’re calling’
And here is a another pastime from the Vedabase:
“The senior students like Jayananda, Visnujana, and Tamal Krsna receive the sacred thread initiation. But the gayatri mantras are not so easy to chant for these new brahmanas. Jayananda especially is having difficulty and requests an appointment with Srila Prabhupada to reveal his problem with the mantras.
“So let me hear you say them,” Prabhupada requests.
Jayananda attempts to read the Sanskrit mantras from the sheet Prabhupada has given the new initiates. After some encouragement, Prabhupada finally leans back laughing.
“It is hopeless,” he admits. “You boys will never be able to speak in Sanskrit. But it does not matter because your feelings are genuine and Krsna is accepting. Go on doing it, never mind.” Prabhupada laughs again, not bothering to correct Jayananda’s awful pronunciation”
Ys Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 12, 2013 @ 2:35 pm
Just in support of Pusta Krishna prabhu’s previous comment:
“We may not be cent percent perfect, but as far as possible, if we follow the instruction as it is, that much [is] perfect. In this way, one will get perfection. So, one has to follow. …So if you follow pure devotee, then you are also pure devotee. It may not be one is cent percent pure. Because we are trying to raise ourself from the conditional life. But if we strictly follow the pure devotee, then we are also pure devotee. So far we do, that is pure. So pure devotee does not mean one has to become immediately cent per cent pure. But if he sticks to the principle that “We’ll follow a pure devotee,” then his actions are… He is as good as a pure devotee.”
Srila Prabhupada, Los Angeles, 25th November 1968
Aside from supporting the previous point, the above reference is also helpful for us not to get too carried away with those who are following (excessively worshiping). Or becoming overly despondent when apparent advanced devotees run into spiritual difficulties.
» Posted By Praghosa On Sep 17, 2013 @ 6:35 pm
Yes Maharaja I couldn’t agree more regarding Mahasringha prabhu and recognition, hence I wrote;
“So we all set off in the midday sun to link up with Mahasringha prabhu, a veteran distributor of Krsna mercy in the villages around Mayapur”
I guess I should have been more fulsome in my appreciation, so thank you for highlighting this point!
Your servant, Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Apr 5, 2013 @ 6:44 am
I sincerely pray for your health and well being Maharaja, you are a real and rare gem of a vaisnava and we all dearly need your association.
You have always been a dear friend and siksa guru to me.
Maharaja, I and all I know, are rooting for you.
Your loving servant, Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Mar 30, 2013 @ 7:14 am
As moderator of this site I wish to keep an open mind on this discussion and in particular whatever conclusion is reached, if any. Naturally I have my own thoughts but I want to remain open to changing them as this discussion develops.
One quote that is often used to argue against women ever giving diksa is:
According to sastric injunctions, there is no difference between siksa-guru and diksa-guru,and generally the siksa-guru later on becomes the diksa-guru. Suniti, however, being a woman, and specifically his mother, could not become Dhruva Maharaja’s diksa-guru.” (Bhag. 4.12.32 purport)
Even with the above reference, the door is left open as far as the words ‘specifically his mother’
In addition we have the following reference:
kalau panca vivarjayet
“In this age of Kali, five acts are forbidden: the offering of a horse in sacrifice, the offering of a cow in sacrifice, the acceptance of the order of sannyasa, the offering of oblations of flesh to the forefathers, and a man’s begetting children in his brother’s wife.” (Cc. Adi 17.164)
Now we know that both SBSST, Srila Prabhupada and of course the GBC do not follow this sastric injunction. It is understood that over and above sastra we follow the order of the acarya first and foremost. Our acarya, Srila Prabhupada, waived this particular injunction in deference to the preaching mission.
One question that needs to be answered is – should we also waive the rigid objection to women gurus in deference to the preaching mission? Our acarya Srila Prabhupada seems to indicate such a course of action with many references, in particular this one:
“I want that all of my spiritual sons and DAUGHTERS will inherit this title of Bhaktivedanta, so that the family transcendental diploma will continue through the generations. Those possessing the title of Bhaktivedanta will be allowed to INITIATE disciples. Maybe by 1975, all of my disciples will be allowed to INITIATE and increase the numbers of the generations. That is my program” – Letter to Hamsaduta on Jan 3, 1969
Capitals mine for emphasis
Ys Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Dec 3, 2012 @ 5:00 pm
Of course the GBC will still give guidance and of course temples will ‘not be free to do as they please’ if doing as they please is in conflict with Srila Prabhupada’s mission and the statutes of ISKCON.
Still the point is that each ISKCON centre should be separately incorporated and responsible for its day to day functioning, as evidenced by this reference of Srila Prabhupada’s:
“Never mind there may be botheration to register each center, take tax certificate each, become separate corporations in each state. That will train men how to do these things, and they shall develop reliability and responsibility, that is the point”
(SPL to Karandhara, 22nd December, 1972)
» Posted By Praghosa On Nov 23, 2012 @ 6:53 pm
Again many students began shouting. Madhudvisa Swami took the microphone. “I can answer if you like. Our movement is not from the United States. If you have some paranoia that everything is coming from the United States, well, that is your hang-up, not mine. [Applause.] And second of all, our spiritual master came to the United States to start this Krsna consciousness movement because he got a free ticket on the boat to go there. If you would have sent him a free ticket, he probably would have come to Australia first. So he is trying to spread love of God. He is not trying to start any kind of political movement. He is trying to spark a revolutionary consciousness. I think you are also interested in revolution. We are interested in revolution also. But we are interested in revolution which will help people to feel peace themselves, whether they are Communists or Marxists or whatever it is you like. We are trying to help people attain happiness whether they are-”
Madhudvisa Swami’s remarks triggered the largest vocal protest yet. The commotion rose as students all over the hall began to shout. There was no possibility of a peaceful philosophical discussion.
The devotees’ greatest concern became getting Prabhupada out of the hall unharmed. Prabhupada rose from his vyasasana and, escorted by his disciples, left by a side exit. A large crowd of students had gathered outside the door as Prabhupada emerged, but he entered his waiting car without incident. As he rode slowly through a cluster of students a girl kicked at the car with her booted foot. And as the devotees were getting into their vans students threw stones. Finally, as the devotees drove off the campus, they had to pass under an elevated walkway where some waiting students threw black paint down onto the vans.
Riding in his car, Prabhupada was mostly silent, but he seemed disgusted. He said that in the future, he would only give lectures in classes where he was invited; no more wide-open lectures.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => SPL 44: Let There Be a Temple
» Posted By Praghosa On Nov 7, 2012 @ 2:46 am
Srila Prabhupada: “That’s all right. You are Christian. We are Krsnian. It is practically the same thing.” (Laughter and applause.)
Student: “I have one other question. I believe Jesus is coming back, and not Krsna. What are you guys going to do when you see Jesus?” (Laughter)
Srila Prabhupada: “When he is coming, welcome. We shall welcome. It is very good news that Jesus is coming.”
Student: “Jesus had no reputation. He wore sandals and was crucified between two thieves. And your spirituality is on a Rolls Royce and a padded seat, and you’re all into money-you Krsnas, you want money.”
Srila Prabhupada: “I don’t want money.”
Student: “And you say violence is violence, that’s what you believe. Jesus turned the other cheek, and he expected his followers to.” (Applause.)
Srila Prabhupada: “This Krsna consciousness movement is not a sentimental religious system. It is science and philosophy.” Prabhupada explained that understanding the science of God was transcendental to Christianity or Hinduism. The real goal was to learn to love God.
Second student: “I have a question about Krishnamurti. Krishnamurti stresses that when you are speaking in the Western world, you should speak and present yourself as a Westerner, not as an Indian or as you would speak in India. Instead of sitting on a raised dais and dressing in the robes of a monk, Krishnamurti would say dress in Western clothes and sit on a chair. What is your opinion of this?”
Srila Prabhupada: “Actually a God conscious person is neither a Westerner nor Easterner. So anywhere the devotee goes, as they receive him, he accepts. These devotees have arranged a raised seat, so I have accepted the raised seat. If they wanted me to sit down on the floor, I would have gladly accepted. I have no objection to this or that. But as devotees receive and give honor, that is good for them, because actually we should honor the Supreme Lord God and His representative. Nowadays it is different. Students are not learning to honor. But that is not actually the system. According to the Vedic system, the representative of God must be honored as God.”
Another student (loudly): “Do you consider your movement the major form of enlightenment emanating from the United States today? What particular role does your movement play in the White House psychological warfare department? Will you be coming to our Fourth of July demonstration against the United States this year and take up the real political issues?”
» Posted By Praghosa On Nov 7, 2012 @ 2:44 am
Srila Prabhupada’s engagement at La Trobe University in Melbourne was like a repeat of the unpleasant incident with the radicals at La Salle Pleyel in Paris. It was, again, a large, free-admission audience of students, and again the disciples had prepared Prabhupada a standard vyasasana. Devotees held a kirtana onstage and introduced Srila Prabhupada, who began speaking very basically about the distinction between the soul and the body and about how this education is required for all people. But after no more than ten minutes, a young man in the audience stood up and began to shout profanities at Srila Prabhupada. “And how do you explain your Rolls Royce?” he added.
The audience, which had been quiet until the interruption, now became noisy and restless. Three of Srila Prabhupada’s more aggressive disciples left the front row and went to the back, where the man was shouting. Meanwhile Srila Prabhupada stopped speaking and sat tolerantly, waiting. The shouting stopped, and he began again. “As I was explaining, in material life we have been changing from one body to another. This is not a very good condition of life. Nobody wants to die, but he is forced to die.”
After five minutes, the abusive language again broke out. This time Srila Prabhupada’s three disciples pushed the shouters out the back door. In the fight, one of the students pulled a knife from his boot, but a devotee disarmed him.
The atmosphere inside the auditorium was tense, and many people were talking loudly. Some got up to leave. Madhudvisa Swami, taking the microphone, pleaded with the students to remain calm and continue hearing from Srila Prabhupada. Some students in the audience seemed on the verge of violence, and the devotees feared for Prabhupada’s safety. But Prabhupada was willing to continue. He called for questions.
Student: “I am a Christian, and I would like to know what is your opinion of Jesus Christ.”
Srila Prabhupada: “We respect Jesus Christ as you do, because he is representative of God, son of God. We are also speaking of God, so we respect him with our greatest veneration.”
Question: “You are a son of Jesus too?”
Srila Prabhupada: “Yes, I am a servant of Jesus. I don’t say I am Jesus.”
Question: “I want to know if you have the power of Jesus?”
Srila Prabhupada: “No, I have no power of Jesus.”
Question: “Well, I’ve got the power of Jesus! [Laughter.] Because I’m a Christian.”
» Posted By Praghosa On Nov 7, 2012 @ 2:42 am
We are closing comments on this article for obvious reasons.
Will there be need for moderation in the spiritual world…
» Posted By Praghosa On Nov 13, 2012 @ 7:24 pm
“What constitutes a normal condition will not be the same for everyone, therefore there are divisions of varnasrama: brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra; brahmacarya, grhastha, vanaprastha and sannyasa. Especially in this age, Kali-yuga, it is advised that no-one take sannyasa … From this we can understand that, in this age, the sannyasa asrama is forbidden because people are not strong. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu showed us an example in taking sannyasa at the age of twenty-four years, but even Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya advised Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu to be extremely careful because He had taken sannyasa at an early age. For preaching, we give young boys sannyasa, but actually it is being experienced that they are not fit for sannyasa.
There is no harm, however, if one thinks that he is unfit for sannyasa; if he is very much agitated sexually, he should go to the asrama where sex is allowed, namely the grhastha asrama. That one has been found to be weak in one place, does not mean that he should stop fighting the crocodile of maya. One should take shelter of the lotus feet of Krsna, as we shall see Gajendra do, and at the same time one can be a grhastha if he is satisfied with sexual indulgence.
There is no need to give up the fight. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore recommended: sthane sthitah sruti-gatam tanu-van-manobhih. One may stay in whichever asrama is suitable for him; it is not essential that one takes sannyasa. If one is sexually agitated, he can enter the grhastha asrama. But one must continue fighting. For one who is not in a transcendental position, to take sannyasa artificially is not a very great credit. If sannyasa is not suitable, one may enter the grhastha asrama and fight maya with great strength. But one should not give up the fighting and go away.”
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 22, 2012 @ 11:21 am
Yes Srila Prabhupada set the bar very high, particularly for leaders. Hence there is no doubt about the standard we have to rise to due to that special mercy of His Divine Grace.
Of course as Srila Prabhupada said so many times, Krsna consciousness is a gradual process and that is no doubt applicable for leaders to. Also as previously discussed there are two types of perfection, those who are actually liberated and those who are on the path of liberation. For those who are on the path of liberation there may be occasional mistakes as elaborately explained in the api cet su-duracaro verse. In the purport to that verse Srila Prabhupada explains:
“one fully engaged in the devotional service of the Lord is sometimes found engaged in abominable activities, these activities should be considered to be like the spots that resemble the mark of a rabbit on the moon. Such spots do not become an impediment to the diffusion of moonlight. Similarly, the accidental fall down of a devotee from the path of saintly character does not make him abominable”
Additionally it is explained at length throughout the Bhaktivedanta purports that the motives of devotees and non devotees are very different and hence have to be judged (and dealt with) differently.
I think the following words of Srila Prabhupada explain very nicely the reasons why some of our leaders in the past (and maybe presently too), faced the problems that they did and the solution to those problems. You get a real sense from Srila Prabhupada throughout the whole issue that generated his below thoughts, that he was so appreciative of the sacrifice his leaders made, while knowing well they were not perfect, as well as all of them not being properly situated. So yes we all look forward to the day when we have perfect leaders, in the meantime we can mediate both on the appreciation Srila Prabhupada had for his less than perfect leaders and the compassionate way he dealt with them when they ran into difficulty.
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 22, 2012 @ 11:19 am
Yes they must have either:
“chased away the witch of labha, puja, pratistha (search for name, fame and position) as well as any selfish pursuit and misuse of Guru and Krishna’s property and Lakshmi (i.e. Srila Prabhupada’s blood)”
or is keeping them well at bay…
As Srila Prabhupada often explained we do not have to be perfect (uttama adhikaris), but we must not adjust the message of Krsna or the spiritual master:
“One who distributes knowledge exactly as God distributes it, who distributes the same knowledge imparted by God, is also perfect. A postman may deliver us a hundred dollars, but we do not consider that the postman is giving us a hundred dollars. The money is sent by a friend, and it is simply the postman’s business to hand it over as it is, without taking anything or adding anything to it. His perfection is that he delivers the hundred dollars as it is sent by one’s friend. That is his perfection. The postman may be imperfect in so many ways, but when he does his business perfectly, he is perfect”
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 22, 2012 @ 3:47 am
Thank you again for your thoughts Puskaraksa prabhu, which again I find myself in agreement with. ISKCON has both a glorious history and no doubt future, while at the same time quite a chequered past to.
There are different thoughts and ideas on why things developed the way they did in ISKCON, particularly in the years immediately after the departure of Srila Prabhupada, which I won’t go into here.
One thing though that I’m confident of is that if the GBC body had been stronger and more established during those years, then the wrongs that were committed may not have all been avoided (although some of them may have been), but they would have been dealt with in a far better way.
Either way, assuming a position of leadership in a spiritual movement like ISKCON is not to be taken lightly as clearly outlined by Srila Prabhupada:
So Vidura was Yamaraja. Not only he was Yamaraja, ordinary, but he is one of the great authorities. There are twelve authorities mentioned in the sastra. One of them is Yamaraja. Balir vaiyasakir vayam. This is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Yamaraja is one of the GBC of Krsna. Yes. As we have got twelve GBC’s, similarly Krsna has got GBC’s. Now,
svayambhur naradah sambhuh
kumarah kapilo manuh
prahlado janako bhismo
balir vaiyasakir vayam [SB 6.3.20]
That twelve men are authorized to preach Krsna consciousness. So we have to follow. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. Therefore we have created these GBC. So they should be very responsible men. Otherwise, they will be punished. They will be punished to become a sudra. Although Yamaraja is a GBC, but he made a little mistake. He was punished to become a sudra. So those who are GBC’s, they should be very, very careful to administer the business of ISKCON. Otherwise they will be punished. As the post is very great, similarly, the punishment is also very great. That is the difficulty.
Srimad-Bhagavatam lecture 1.13.15 — Geneva, June 4, 1974
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 21, 2012 @ 4:19 pm
Absolutely Puskaraksa prabhu; for any and all of us who make mistakes that should only be an incentive to better apply and more deeply reflect on the trinad api sunicena principle. Leaders in particular should set this example.
And also as you nicely point out, we all should give devotees the space to do that by avoiding any tendency we might have to be judgmental.
As ever Srila Prabhupada has left us many examples of doing just that and often quoted the saying ‘failure is the pillar of success’.
As in this exchange with Madhudvisa prabhu:
Prabhupada: It doesn’t matter. Live like grhastha, but don’t leave. So where you are staying now?
Madhudvisa: I just came from Hawaii.
Prabhupada: Where is your wife?
Madhudvisa: She’s there. I just had a baby boy.
Madhudvisa: I just had a son.
Prabhupada: That’s nice.
Madhudvisa: I called him Abhay. I hope that’s all right.
Prabhupada: So remain as grhastha and render your service. There is no harm. If one could not proceed, it doesn’t matter. Failure is the pillar of success. Then try. Again you shall try.
Room Conversation With Madhudvisa and others — August 17, 1977, Vrndavana
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 21, 2012 @ 10:16 am
Dear Puskaraksa prabhu,
Yes the question you raise is I guess one that many devotees consider. For myself I simply am satisfied that the system of governance given to us by Srila Prabhupada (and of course Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja), is the best that is available. And on balance it is far better to run the risk, as you put it of:
“a pure devotee be hampered in his preaching activities”
than it is taking the risk of individuals who are not pure devotees being given excessive independence and not functioning under the authority of a governing board.
That in essence is the reason that both Srila Prabhupada and Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja wanted a governing board to be the final authority. It is true that they may not all be pure devotees, indeed maybe none of them might be, still, as a collective unit, their decisions on balance are likely to be the right ones.
Also ISKCON’s current GBC do not function in a vacuum, they avail of much input from other senior, advanced devotees both informally and formally via committees such as the Sastric Advisory Council etc.
I would also add that if pure devotees manifest among us (and for sure there are some very advanced devotees among us), it is not that somehow they would automatically conflict or be hampered in their preaching by the GBC. Indeed I think the collective maturity, sincerity and advancement of those advanced devotees, as well as the GBC members, would enhance and support the service of those special devotees.
However as I said at the outset, ultimately the system of a governing board being the final authority, is the system mandated to us by our most recent acaryas. So we enthusiastically work with that system, as not to do so, would be going against the explicit instruction of His Divine Grace, as evidenced by this definitive statement:
“The GBC authority must be accepted under all circumstances.”
SPL to Bali Mardan and Pusta Krsna 18th September 1972
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 21, 2012 @ 6:36 am
The title ‘Money is the Honey’ was taken from this letter by Srila Prabhupada:
“Money is the honey” goes so far as it is employed for Krishna consciousness.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: Hamsaduta — Calcutta 13 October, 1967
Hence the sub-title to the paper:
‘when used in Krsna’s service’
Ys Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Oct 19, 2012 @ 3:42 pm
Kesava Krsna prabhu wrote:
“One of the symptoms of self-ability service is that we expect immediate results, and dramatic ones at that. If a group of devotees put on a Ratha-Yatra festival for instance and become despondent because of low public turnout, or that nobody committed to becoming devotees”
I’ve often thought that the following reference while logical, understandable and an important yardstick, could lead to devotees feeling a certain pressure to produce the results you refer too:
“Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura said that the position of a Vaisnava can be tested by seeing how good a touchstone he is—that is, by seeing how many Vaisnavas he has made during his life”
» Posted By Praghosa On Sep 4, 2012 @ 4:57 pm
In comment 4 you wrote:
“I do not deny that even non-brahmanas are humans”
It maybe a language thing but just to let you know the above was lucky to make it to publication as it sounds elitist in the extreme.
Ys Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Jul 2, 2012 @ 1:49 pm
Dear Vishaka Priya,
Hare Krishna. I couldn’t agree more with you, there are gradations in everything in life, perhaps one of the key reasons why getting everything right in life is effectively impossible. It was just that it appeared in your original comment that the ‘wicked intent for profit’ was only related to those producing GM vegetables.
No big deal and thanks for all your contributions to Dandavats, Ys
» Posted By Praghosa On Jun 21, 2012 @ 10:30 pm
Vishaka Priya wrote:
“we are now subjected to genetically modified vegetables, which are suitable neither for Krsna nor for us. They are not suitable for Krsna because they are not grown with love but with the wicked intention of making more profit”
Gmodified or not, most all foodstuffs, including vegetables, are produced for profit, no?
Ys Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Jun 20, 2012 @ 1:10 pm
If it is then is he an uttama adhikari as described in the Bhakti Rasamrta Sindu, which is limited to within vaidhi sadhana, or as described in the Srimad Bhagavatam, which clearly indicates a devotee who possesses prema bhakti?
Either way, is it fair that we burden devotees with such a lofty endorsement? – I think not.
And can we guarantee that all who go through the no objection procedure are in fact uttama adhikaris? – Again I think not.
And does it discourage other devotees from coming forward to serve as gurus in ISKCON? – I think so.
» Posted By Praghosa On May 19, 2012 @ 12:18 pm
Akruranatha prabhu posted:
“the ISKCON legislation for obtaining GBC “no objection” blessings for serving as diksa guru involves certifying the candidate as completely free from sex desire and other anarthas”
The section of ISKCON law being referred to above reads as follows:
6.2.1 Mandatory Qualifications
The following are the minimum qualifications necessary to be approved as a diksa or siksa-guru in ISKCON.
1. Must have been an initiated disciple for at least ten years.
2. Must be strictly following the four regulative principles, regularly attending the morning program, and chanting sixteen rounds daily.
3. Must not have had a fall-down within five years.
4. Must evince no tendency toward moral turpitude in his present or past activities.
5. Must be free from the following undesirable qualities:
(a) attachment to kamini-kañcana, “the devil” in the form of sex objects and wealth;
(b) pratistha, false prestige and personal ambition;
(c) nisiddhacara, behavior contrary to Vaisnava principles;
(d) kuti-nati, diplomatic or duplicitous behavior;
(e) puja, the desire for personal worship;
(f) labha, mundane profiteering.
6. Must have excelled in preaching activities.
7. Must exhibit proficiency in knowledge and understanding of sastra.
8. Must preach without concoction and strictly according to the parampara, with sastric knowledge grounded firmly in siddhanta, or conclusive truth.
9. Must be effective in practical preaching and counseling.
10.Must have no loyalties that compete with or compromise his loyalty to Srila Prabhupada, to his teachings, and to ISKCON.
11. Must show understanding of and dedication to Srila Prabhupada’s mission with a strong commitment to maintaining and increasing book distribution and other ISKCON projects.
12. Must recognize the GBC as the ultimate managing authority in ISKCON, support the GBC system, and follow the GBC.
13.Should be engaged full-time in devotional service in an ISKCON center or other ISKCON-approved preaching program.
In relation specifically to point 5 above, as referenced by Akruranatha, the key word is ‘must’.
Also the question arises that once a devotee successfully goes through the no objection procedure and is approved to serve as an ISKCON guru, is the above endorsement of his qualifications akin to confirming him as an uttama adhikari?
» Posted By Praghosa On May 19, 2012 @ 12:10 pm
As per the analogy given by Sukadeva Goswami of the ant on the potters wheel, with the ant moving more slowly in the opposite direction that the potters wheel is moving.
So although the planets are moving forward because the kala chakra is moving faster in the opposite direction, it appears as if the planets are moving backwards…
Ys Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Feb 18, 2012 @ 6:43 am
Regarding comment 26:
That is something that is being actively worked on by the GBC Organizational Development Committee – smaller and geographically contiguous GBC zones.
Your servant, Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Jan 21, 2012 @ 10:40 am
Hare Krishna Akruranatha prabhu,
I posted the story of Prsadhra as it indicates that no matter what our circumstances, whatever mistakes we make and even if we displease our guru, all is not lost. This story shows that regardless of having a guru who appeared to not be free of tamo-guna and who cursed Prsadhra to take another birth as a sudra, still due to his humble attitude and acceptance of the curse from Vaisistha, Prsadhra returned to the spiritual world after he left his body having entered a forest fire.
Therefore a disciple will never lose as long as we retain and develop the proper vaisnava attitude.
Ys Praghosa dasa
» Posted By Praghosa On Jan 17, 2012 @ 1:03 pm
he gave full attention to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vasudeva, who is the transcendental Supersoul, free from material contamination. Thus Prsadhra, fully satisfied in pure knowledge, always keeping his mind on the Supreme Personality of Godhead, achieved pure devotional service to the Lord and began traveling all over the world, without affection for material activities, as if he were deaf, dumb and
With this attitude, Prsadhra became a great saint, and when he entered the forest and saw a blazing forest fire, he took this opportunity to burn his body in the fire. Thus he achieved the transcendental, spiritual world.
» Posted By Praghosa On Jan 14, 2012 @ 12:07 am
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Therefore, generally speaking, a disciple is never at a loss if we follow the true Vaisnava ways. Here is more on this from the Srimad-Bhagavatam. It is the story of Prsadhra’s being cursed by his spiritual master.
Prsadhra, following the order of his spiritual master, was engaged as a
protector of cows. He would stand all night with a sword to give the cows
Once at night, while it was raining, a tiger entered the land of the cowshed. Upon seeing the tiger, all the cows, who were lying down, got up in fear and scattered here and there on the land.
When the very strong tiger seized the cow, the cow screamed in distress and fear, and Prsadhra, hearing the screaming, immediately followed the sound. He took up his sword, but because the stars were covered by clouds, he mistook the cow for the tiger and mistakenly cut off the cows’ head with great force.
Because the tiger’s ear had been cut by the edge of the sword, the tiger was very afraid, and it fled from that place, while bleeding on the street.
In the morning, when Prsadhra, who was quite able to subdue his enemy, saw that he had killed the cow although at night he thought he had killed the tiger, he was very unhappy.
Although Prsadhra had committed the sin unknowingly, his family priest, Vasistha, cursed him, saying, “In your next life you shall not be able to become a ksatriya. Instead, you shall take birth as a sudra because of
killing the cow.”
It appears that Vasistha was not free from tamo-guna, the mode of ignorance. As the family priest or spiritual master of Prsadhra, Vasistha should have taken Prsadhra’s offense very lightly, but instead Vasistha
cursed him to become a sudra. It is the duty of a family priest not to curse a disciple but to give him relief through the performance of some sort of atonement. Vasistha, however, did just the opposite. Therefore Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says that he was durmati; in other words, his intelligence was not very good.
When the hero Prsadhra was thus cursed by his spiritual master, he accepted the curse with folded hands. Then, having controlled his senses, he took the vow of brahmacarya, which is approved by all great sages.
Thereafter, Prsadhra gained relief from all responsibilities, became peaceful in mind, and established control over all his senses. Being unaffected by material conditions, being pleased with whatever was available by the grace of the Lord to maintain body and soul together, and being equal toward everyone
» Posted By Praghosa On Jan 14, 2012 @ 12:05 am
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