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A Happy Wife Has a Good Husband

When all is said and done, there is no such thing as “a real man” in this world. All of us are prakriti masquerading as the enjoyer. In one life we accept ourselves as prakriti (woman) and in the next life we assert ourselves as purusha (man). And then again we are cast in the role of woman (and suffer for the beatings we inflicted upon our “wife” in our previous life) and then again in the role of man (and take our revenge for the beatings we received from our “husband” in our previous life). And this goes on and on and on until, by the mercy of Guru and Gauranga, we come to the realization that material life is insane and we need to get out of this cycle.

This is not meant to be a criticism of Mahatma Prabhu’s article but a pointer to higher realities. Even within the ideal varnasrama system people suffer, because the material world (especially the lower and middle planetary systems) is meant for that. We are like the proverbial fish out of water and will continue to suffer as long as we do not act in our constitutional position. So, as one respected ISKCON marriage counselor says, “Marriage is not meant to make you happy. Marriage is meant to make you married.”

As aspiring devotees, we theoretically know that we are supposed to be dasa dasa anudasa. If both husband and wife are trained to see each other as servants of Krsna, how can there be any question of abuse? But to train one section of devotees to be submissive without training the other section to be worthy of their submission is simply hypocritical and exploitative. And therefore, dear Rukmini devi dasi-prabhu-mataji, it is not just your son who recoils from marriage these days. Anyone seriously trying to practice Krsna consciousness will be weary of marriage, regardless of their present external dress.

Hare Krsna.
Your servant,
Visakha Priya dasi

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 09.09.2014 @ 11:28

Who went West - Srila Prabhupada or the Holy Name?

Dear Pusta Krsna Prabhu,

Please accept my respectful obeisances at your feet. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
“Krsna, in His own dramatic fashion, will happily surprise you when He so desires.” What a wonderful statement! Surely Krsna has inspired you to write this to help me out at this point where I need it. Thank , you very, very much for this.

“Helpless but not hopeless.” Yes. Pessimistic about the material world and hopeful about the spiritual world.

“You have tenaciously remained steadfast in remaining open-hearted to Him.” Yes. And all the credit goes to Srila Prabhupada—who sits along with Sri Krsna (and many other nitya-siddhas) in our hearts—and to his books, who kept me on the path of devotion. And, after the second debacle, I got a lot of selfless support from His Holiness Giriraj Swami, who eventually gave me full shelter at his lotus feet.
Of course, I am grateful to many other devotees who, mostly within ISKCON but also occasionally without, encouraged me on the path of pure devotional service

So it is true that we get help at every step if we really want it.

Last but not least, I am also indebted to your grace, who always post deep, balanced, and realized comments on Dandavats. I do feel embarrassed about this last one, but I take it as Krsna’s mercy to encourage me to persevere.

Again, please accept my humble obeisances. And kindly bless me to remain

Your eternal servant in the service of the Supreme Absolute Truth, Sri Krsna, the lotus-eyed One,

Visakha Priya dasi

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 05.09.2014 @ 10:40

Dear Nrsimhadeva Prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances. Al glories to Srila Prabhupada.

On the whole I appreciated your comment–especially the last six lines, which reminded me of the way I was able to select (or be selected by) my spiritual master after two failed attempts to link myself up to the parampara.

But I would like some clarification on your statement that “Persons who have done this [relegating the self-effulgent acarya to the position of a mere teacher] even consider Srila Prabhupada an ordinary guru who became self-realized by the mercy of His Guru, on the level with other India-born gurus.”

Why “India-born” gurus as opposed to “Western-born” gurus? Do we not all become self-realized by the mercy of Guru, no matter what kind of material background we come from? Is it not a fact that whether we are sadhana-siddha, krpa-siddha or nitya-siddha we end up at the lotus feet of Sri Sri Radha and Krsna?

Thank you. Hare Krsna.
Your servant,
Visakha Priya dasi

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 04.09.2014 @ 07:38

Will Hare Krishnas Go Vegan?

Sorry, Ananda devi dasi. I thought that you had written this article and therefore your name appears–completely out of place–in my yet-to be- approved and posted comment.

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 06.08.2014 @ 14:18

Simple for the simple, complicated for the crooked. After reading Dushyanta Prabhu’s excellent article currently posted on Dandavats, any simple person who claims to follow Srila Prabhupada would conclude that drinking milk produced on non profit, Krsna conscious, farming communities is THE answer, not just ONE answer. Although there are many good points in Ananda devi dasi’s article, many of them are besides the point for us. We are not meant to become vegan but to protect cows, because the whole Vedic society is based on cow protection and Srila Prabhupada wanted us to try to revive that culture, live on farms, produce our own grains, weave our own cloth, etc., and send the surplus to our city preaching centers. The problem is, we don’t want to do it. It is too much of a sacrifice, too much of a leap of faith. I remember reading somewhere in Prabhupada’s books–but can’t trace it in Folio. Somebody please help me–that one acre of land and a milk cow is enough for a family of five to meet its daily necessities. Understandably,those of us born and brought up in cities probably can’t bear the hardships of country live, but the children can. We are working not just for our own generation but for many generations to come, so we should make plans to raise our kids on Krsna conscious farming communities. Not that we drop the whole thing and become vegan. That’s a cop out! Not for vegans themselves, of course, but for us, Hare Krsna devotees. For meat eaters, veganism is a big step forward, but for us it’s a step backward.

Hare Krsna.
Your servant,
Visakha Priya dasi

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 06.08.2014 @ 11:03

Husband As Guru – How About Srila Prabhupada As Guru?

But now, here you come, full of youthful vigor and fanaticism, with a comment which pertains to another context altogether. And what is an uneducated, unintelligent, or psychopathic person supposed to conclude from it? “Women like to be raped? Yahoo! Let’s go for it.” You have acted foolishly and done a disservice to Srila Prabhupada’s preaching mission by publicizing on the web a conversation that Prabhupada held among a small group of disciples. Not only that, but your comment doesn’t contribute anything to the discussion. In that conversation, one devotee mentioned that there was a new law in England whereby a man cannot be convicted of rape if he honestly believes that the woman consented to be raped, and Srila Prabhupada agreed that “Rape means without consent, sex. Otherwise there is no rape. Then he speaks about the rape case in Calcutta—how the intelligent lawyer made the woman admit, “Yes, I felt happiness.” So he was released. “Here is consent.” And that’s a fact. Because after all, sex, rape or no rape, they will feel some pleasure…” “…So either by force or by willingly, if there is itching, everyone feels relieved itching it. That’s a psychology. It is not that the woman do not like rape. They like sometimes. They willingly. That is the psychology. Outwardly they show some displeasure, but inwardly they do not. This is the psychology.”
Here again, there are two points. One is that “IF there is itching, everyone feels relief itching it”, but what if there is no itch but just savage, gruesome, deceitful, unexpected aggression (a far cry from vikhyatam), as we hear every few days in India—and I am sure in other countries as well? It is not “willingly” and it often ends in death or injury, not in relief. The other point, the psychology of women, is again quoted by you out of context. Srila Prabhupada’s statement applies in the case of Puranjana’s story but not in the Calcutta one. Srila Prabhupada’s statement refers to a love play between avowed lovers, as mentioned in Cc M 8.111: “‘The progress of loving affairs between a young boy and a young girl is like the movement of a snake. On account of this, two types of anger arise between a young boy and girl — anger with cause and anger without cause.’”
What more can I say? You should be more thoughtful instead of barging in like a puppy, anywhere and everywhere.
Hare Krsna.
Your servant,
Visakha Priya dasi

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 12.06.2014 @ 10:53

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Srila Prabhupada’s statement that “It is a fact that a woman likes a man who is very expert at rape” is found in SB 4.25, wherein King Puranjana, eager to enjoy life to the fullest, meets a beautiful young woman in a beautiful garden. “She was very beautiful and young, and she appeared very anxious to find a suitable husband.” (SB 4.25.21) “Puranjana, the hero, became attracted by the eyebrows and smiling face of the very beautiful girl and was immediately pierced by the arrows of her lusty desires. When she smiled shyly, she looked very beautiful to Puranjana, who, although a hero, could not refrain from addressing her.” (SB.25.25)
So he starts chatting her up and then, in text 32, “Narada continued: My dear King, when Puranjana became so attracted and impatient to touch the girl and enjoy her, the girl also became attracted by his words and accepted his request by smiling. By this time she was certainly attracted by the King.” So she starts speaking, right up to text 41 (which contains the controversial statement), and nothing in her speech indicates that she is not consenting to the King. Rather the opposite. So, when Srila Prabhupada, seemingly out of the blue, makes that statement in relation to the word vikhyatam, which means “famous,” it has nothing to do with the revolting stories we keep hearing in Uttar Pradesh these days. It is a fact that women in general are attracted to handsome, wealthy, powerful men, and if the man shows them some attention, they willingly respond, even if the so-called aggression takes place before they had time to re-powder their nose or whatever. But this is not what is known as rape in modern society! And as I mentioned in my previous post, according to old dictionaries (19th century or earlier), a synonym for the word “rape” is “kidnap.”

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 12.06.2014 @ 10:52

Sitarama Prabhu,
Hare Krsna! If you are as young and inexperienced as you look in your picture, then I forgive you for your out-of-place comment number 16 and will try to explain why it is not just out of place but harmful as well.
As I am nearing the age of seventy, more and more I see the necessity of reconciling contradictory statements in a peaceful mood, with the aim of achieving a higher state of understanding, not assuming that I’ve understood everything and am now setting out to prove it to all of you guys!
Our philosophy emphasizes simultaneous oneness and difference. There will always be different points of view because we are persons, not just dazzling atoms. We may both be sitting in the same country, the same province, the same city, the same street, the same house, the same room—and describe reality in completely different ways just because you are looking out the window that faces east and I am looking out the window that faces west. You may think that this example is too simplistic but the fact is that we have to have some realization of what we speak. Everything has to be seen, heard, and spoken in a particular context for us to agree fully on whatever it is we are theorizing about.
In the particular context of H. H. Bhaktivikas Swami’s reply to Mahatma Prabhu’s article, I happen to know both parties and did some service for both of them at different times of my life. I posted two comments: one on Mahatma’s article, which was meant to be a positive addition to his writing, and one on Maharaja’s reply, which was meant to reinforce the idea that as Srila Prabhupada’s followers, we must accept his teachings in toto, not just pick and choose according to our likes and dislikes. At the same time, I wanted to demonstrate that although some of Srila Prabhupada’s statements may seem outrageous by contemporary standards, they actually describe a different situation. This is not a speculation on my part.

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Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 12.06.2014 @ 10:51

… SB 7.11.28. Purport continued:

It is recommended, therefore, that a chaste wife not associate with a fallen husband. A fallen husband is one who is addicted to the four principles of sinful activity — namely illicit sex, meat-eating, gambling and intoxication. Specifically, if one is not a soul surrendered to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, he is understood to be contaminated. Thus a chaste woman is advised not to agree to serve such a husband. It is not that a chaste woman should be like a slave while her husband is naradhama, the lowest of men. Although the duties of a woman are different from those of a man, a chaste woman is not meant to serve a fallen husband. If her husband is fallen, it is recommended that she give up his association. Giving up the association of her husband does not mean, however, that a woman should marry again and thus indulge in prostitution. If a chaste woman unfortunately marries a husband who is fallen, she should live separately from him. Similarly, a husband can separate himself from a woman who is not chaste according to the description of the sastra. The conclusion is that a husband should be a pure Vaisnava and that a woman should be a chaste wife with all the symptoms described in this regard. Then both of them will be happy and make spiritual progress in Krsna consciousness.

Hare Krsna Hare Krsna
Krsna Krsna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare

Your servant,
Visakha Priya dasi

Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 05.06.2014 @ 06:06

Thank you, Your Holiness, for your comments on the article “Guru as Husband.” Certainly, it is hard for Western minds to always cheerfully accept Srila Prabhupada’s comments on women. But then it usually comes from not understanding the context in which his statements are made—for example, the famous (or rather infamous) statement that women like to be raped. I discussed the matter with Srila Prabhupada’s disciple Visakha Devi, and she told me that in one of her old dictionaries, one of the synonyms for the word “rape” is “kidnap,” which perfectly fits in with the story Srila Prabhupada comments on. From another point of view, I always took solace in Srila Prabhupada’s response to Jadurani and (I think) Govinda dasi when they inquired from him whether it was true that they couldn’t make as much advancement as the men because they were women. And Srila Prabhupada replied, “Yes!… If you think that you are women.”
One thing I would like to emphasize is that although Srila Prabhupada is sometimes considered to be a chauvinist by certain standards, it is actually not the case, as exemplified in the following verse and purport of Srimad-Bhagavatam (SB 7.11.28):

A chaste woman should not be greedy, but satisfied in all circumstances. She must be very expert in handling household affairs and should be fully conversant with religious principles. She should speak pleasingly and truthfully and should be very careful and always clean and pure. Thus a chaste woman should engage with affection in the service of a husband who is not fallen.
According to the injunction of Yajnavalkya, an authority on religious principles, asuddheh sampratiksyo hi mahapataka-dusitah. One is considered contaminated by the reactions of great sinful activities when one has not been purified according to the methods of the dasa-vidha-samskara. In Bhagavad-gita, however, the Lord says, na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah: [Bg. 7.15] “Those miscreants who do not surrender unto Me are the lowest of mankind.” The word naradhama means “nondevotee.” Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu also said, yei bhaje sei bada, abhakta-hina [Cc. Antya 4.67], chara. Anyone who is a devotee is sinless. One who is not a devotee, however, is the most fallen and condemned.

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Comment Posted By Visakha Priya dasi On 05.06.2014 @ 06:04


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