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Haribol Kesava Krsna prabhu – just like to comment that you have used a really refreshing approach with your “thought experiment” of what might have been. It is nice to see such an original perspective on a rather stereotyped issue. Even without considering conclusions drawn from it which should continue throughout the comments here, it throws a new light on such discussions.
You have also inspired me to get around to writing something about it, so thanks,
» Posted By antardwip das On Oct 6, 2014 @ 9:11 am
Haribol Titiksava Karunika prabhu,
Thanks for the appreciation – the devotees are struggling hard to produce more videos like that. The latest of HH Jayapataka Maharaja”s arrival to Sree Mayapur is not as high quality because they couldn’t upload it for some reason at hi-res. Vince is trying to keep videos down to 10 minute videos (except for classes) so they download at high quality.
They are using £600 canon cameras – except Lord Nityananda’s appearance had a £3,000 camera from Sinananda Sena prabhu, I think, which has great indoor colours at low light – but everyone is to busy to let me know exactly what make.
We want anyone who wants to get involved to get in touch, although with Tirtharaj prabhu trying to “fix” the server tomorrow (follow us on Twitter) and possibly Ravi getting the live installation complete, it imay be wise to wait a few days for a reply.
We may make the live broadcast for the Deity Maha-Abhisek on Wednesday 25th. That would be great.
Great you are interested – please e-mail us as Citraka prabhu suggested.
» Posted By antardwip das On Feb 23, 2009 @ 7:56 pm
With regards to the suggestion of keeping everyone happy by including, alongside the US capitol, more prominent Indian elements, I would like to suggest that by including certain elements from that architectural gem of Ireland, Trinity College Dublin, the design team would receive wide appreciation and support from the many intelligent and influential ISKCON devotees who co-incidentially happen be Irish.
I would like to thank Dandavats.com, Hari Sauri prabhu (especially for the potted history of the project), Tattvavit and Ambarish prabhu for allowing us through this discussion to feel that we are part of what is going on.
» Posted By antardwip das On Oct 15, 2008 @ 10:40 pm
Continued from last posting…
How apathetic would devotees be if they didn’t question WHY they are losing a feature central to their world headquarters – possibly including (judging from the video clip) Srila Prabhupada’s bhajan kutir?
So if we wait, will rising building costs make building a temple impossible? Well, no-one has a crystal ball to fortell future prices for sure, that is a fact. It could be a commodity price bubble. They have risen 250% in the last few years one devotee writes in, and he says they are likely to rise more. But that prices will rise is not written in stone. What if prices drop, the government gives permission for the land, and we have lost the garden area and the existing Mayapura environment in the meantime to build a temple cramped in on all sides, who will be grateful?
We want to do service, not disservice. Enthusiasm is necessary, confidence is necessary, but so also is patience.
ps I would like to work with whoever is doing the exhibits etc that go inside the temple if I get the chance.
» Posted By antardwip das On Aug 30, 2008 @ 9:01 am
Dear Ambarish prabhu,
Thanks for your article and coming forward to answer some devotees’ concerns. My main concern is building on the garden area.
To summarise your reasons for building on the garden area, you are saying we must build there right away because delaying further to get planning permission for the open land, costs will escalate to impractical levels.
Although the gardens do not have any existing buildings that need demolishing, it does not mean they are not as valuable to the preaching as if they did, or that the structures that surround them do not derive much of their value from having the open gardens at their centre. Building in the garden area affects the current success of many other structures which depend on it, the lotus building, the long building and the main temple. Building on this site is undoing a lot of valuable work that has gone on in Mayapura already and which works extermely well. These gardens are not the same as the outlaying fields around Mayapura, they play a very important and historic role in the life and preaching of ISKCON Mayapura.
Srila Prabhupada DID say of the current structures to be careful even putting nails in the walls because we did not know where they came from (the buildings, not the nails). He also spoke of our bad habit of changing things. Locating the new temple as planned will cause the loss of what is already a very successful area of Sree Mayapura, perhaps the most successful, the gardens and impressive access route to the existing central buildings.
Also, if building the TVP is interrupted for any reason due to escalating costs, supply shortages, funds, war, local politics etc there will be an interruption to ISKCON Mayapura for an indetermined period with neither a garden or temple at the centre, but a building site… It is a possibility that we not only lose the garden area in order to build the TVP, but risking destroying the property. At least now we have something worthwhile and solid. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. But we really want two birds in the hand. That is why we must get the required planning permission for the open fields. Whoever says it is impossible may not be the right person for the job. Whoever is on a career path may not either…
continued on next posting…
» Posted By antardwip das On Aug 30, 2008 @ 9:00 am
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I was very happy to see the positive way in which the arguments concerning the design were given.
Especially : 6) Tourists will want an Indian-style temple. If they want to see Renaissance and neoclassical architecture, they go to Florence, Rome, Paris, London, or Washington and get the real thing.
This reminds me of the move in the 80’s to go for Italian classical style paintings with flowing garments etc to illustrate BBT books. While we, devotees, were gasping at the improvement of our artists’ techniques, for the outsider, artistically they invited unfavourable comparison with the (vastly) more compotent non-devotee artists of the Italian rennaisance. Our earlier, obviously devotional, work, however, stood on its own merit.
If we are to do something related to the western architecture, it would have to be better than existing buildings to be the temple predicted by the previous acharyas, “Adbhuta”. Something people world-wide would want to see, not something based on what is in their own country, and a lesser version.
The problem is that we have not been granted permission to build on open land that we had aquired for that purpose, thus we now have a design brief which is restrictive – fit a temple with a huge dome – and some Indian elements – in-between existing buildings. That is not fair on the architects or the team managing the construction. I do not think the builder’s of St Peters or the Capitol faced such pressures. How can we do Lord Chaitanya justice with such strictures?
Is it really impossible to get permission to build on the open fields in Sree Mayapura? I am not convinced we do not have devotees with that ability lurking within ISKCON. It seems odd we cannot get planning permission for a temple at Sree Dham Mayapura when we can get planning permission to build a temple in Moscow.
I say, give the project more time, focussing on getting permission for the land and pray to Lord Chaitanya to bless Ambarish prabhu with as long, prosperous and happy a life as he needs….
» Posted By antardwip das On Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
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