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Economic Nonviabilty Of Devotee Milk Production

Grandfather Bhishmadev has said that one who sells milk for a living goes to hell. After reading the short answer in the above article I now understand why.
What about those who drink this milk which comes from soon to be slaughtered animals? Srila Prabhupada was asked this question, the answer given is that milk is essential for developing the finer tissues in the brain which is a spiritual neccesity and thus we cannot avoid it.
Cows blood has the opposite effect it makes the brain dull for spirtual lif and as we have seen even causes diseases of the brain e.g. mad cow disease. So called modern society and their goverments have created this horrendous slaughterhouse program to thier own detriment. It may appear that modern dairy farmers are making a profit, but one can understand that the price to the paid, both gross and subtle is extremely, extremely high. It involves in its process and execution senseless cruelty,incredible levels of enviromental destruction, horrible karmic reactions - the degradation of spiritual principles and pain to all soulsin one way or another.

Comment Posted By bhakta piyush mehta On 05.05.2007 @ 02:02

The origins of some of Srila Prabhupada’s sayings

It was this statement (below) from your article that confused me, how does this tie in with your quotes in #13 above?

“What is astonishing is Srila Prabhupada’s loyalty not just to spiritual authority, but everything he said or did seemed to have some basis in greatness somewhere, which may not make him very original. But that quality itself is so rare as to make him uniquely original.”

Comment Posted By bhakta piyush mehta On 26.02.2007 @ 04:06

Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati [Bg. 18.54]. Nirguna is not so easy thing. This is nirguna. Sarva-dharmän parityajya mäm ekam saranam [Bg. 18.66]. This is nirguna. Otherwise, everything as gunan, everything as gunan. Only fully surrendered to Krishna, nirguna. This is… So (Hindi) They are talking, “Yes, you take Bhagavad-Gita without Krishna.” They say it, and they are doing that.

Indian Doctor: Who?

Prabhupada: Anyone. Take Mahatma Gandhi. He was so great student of Bhagavad-Gita. Did he preach Krishna-bhakti? Bhagavad-Gita minus Krishna, this is going on. Yes. Kamsa. Kill Krishna. This is going on. What is the meaning of Bhagavad-Gita without Krishna? And everyone is preaching like this. Very worse condition of the world. Godlessness, and they’ll suffer, there is no doubt. Prakrti is very strong. You can do whatever you like, but karaka guna-sango ‘sya that will act.

Room Conversation Bombay, 14th August1976

Comment Posted By bhakta piyush mehta On 24.02.2007 @ 16:46

Dear Keshava Krsna prabhu,

Thank you for the information provided, I was not suggesting on a personal level that comparing words was a “crow like” activity. I was further emphasizing the point that the real value of words and literature when they are employed by a pure devotee in the service of Lord’s mission, indeed they are useful words which you already pointed out…

However I do think that the non-devotees who are not qualified need not be glorified (there are so many qualified devotees past and present) and therefore think that to apply the saying “gold from a filthy place” is appropriate. Whether they were the true original speakers and/or that they got benefit by having the Acharyas quote a similar saying is in my humble opinion a speculation. If it can be proven in this context I am open to changing my opinion.

I do know for a fact that Srila Prabhupada did try to get Mahatma Gandhi to retire from politics and preach the message of the Bhagavad- Gita. I did a little bit of research on it…

The following is an extract from a lecture given by Srila Prabhupada on the 16th of April 1974 in Bombay, India (Bhagavad-Gita 4.27)

“You go on serving your family. Nobody will give you relief. If you say that “Now I have done so much for you. Give me relief.” First of all I do not want to be relieved also. That is also another disease. You see? You will be surprised. It is my practical experience. This Krishna consciousness movement, before starting, I wrote one letter to Mahatma Gandhi: “Mahatma Gandhi, you have got position. People accept you as a very pious man. Now you have got your sva-räjya, and you are very fond of Bhagavad-Gita. Let us preach Bhagavad-Gita.” I wrote this letter. Unfortunately, a few days after, he was killed. So this is the position. All big, big leaders, they do not want to take relief from this sense gratification business. No. This is the…

Therefore jnana-dipite atma-samyama-yogagnau. Because there is no knowledge, they think the sense gratification extended, expanded sense gratification, will make the world happy. No. That is not possible. Therefore jïäna-dépite means that by this kind of sense gratification we will not solve the problems. Kamadinäm kati na katidha pälitä durnidesas tesäm jata mayi na karunä. “There is no mercy. Therefore I have given up them. Now I have come to You, my dear Lord. I was serving the senses so long. Now I want to serve You.” This is knowledge, jïäna-dépite. “Because my business is to satisfy the senses, either my senses or my relative’s senses, but it has not made me happy, therefore I have come to You to satisfy Your senses. Kindly engage me in Your business.”
This is called jnana. That is explained in the Bhagavad-Gita. Bahunam janmanam ante jnänavan mäm prapadyate [Bg. 7.19]. When jnänavän… What kind of jnänavän? After serving the senses of so many people life after life, when one comes to his real knowledge that “This kind of sense gratification will not make me happy. Let me gratify the senses of Krishna,” that is real knowledge. Jnäna-dipite. And in another place it is said, bahunäm janmanäm ante jnänavän mäm prapadyate. Jnänavän. That is real knowledge.
Actually, my business is to satisfy the senses of Krishna, but I am thinking that I shall be happy by satisfying my senses, my family’s senses, my country’s senses, my nation’s senses, and so on, so on, so on. This will make me happy. This is the secret. So therefore Krishna says that “You have manufactured so many business of sense gratification. That’s all right. Give up this all rascal business. Simply surrender unto Me.” Sarva-dharmän parityajya mäm ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. Then you will be satisfied. Otherwise there is no question of satisfaction. You go on increasing the area of sense gratification. That will not make you happy.”

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Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati [Bg. 18.54]. Nirguna is not so easy thing. This is nirguna. Sarva-dharmän parityajya mäm ekam saranam [Bg. 18.66]. This is iguana. Otherwise, everything as gunan, everything as gunman. Only fully surrendered to Krishna, nirguna. This is… So (Hindi) They are talking, “Yes, you take Bhagavad-Gita without Krishna.” They say it, and they are doing that.

Indian Doctor: Who?

Prabhupada: Anyone. Take Mahatma Gandhi. He was so great student of Bhagavad-Gita. Did he preach Krishna-bhakti? Bhagavad-Gita minus Krishna, this is going on. Yes. Kamsa. Kill Krishna. This is going on. What is the meaning of Bhagavad-Gita without Krishna? And everyone is preaching like this. Very worse condition of the world. Godlessness, and they’ll suffer, there is no doubt. Prakrti is very strong. You can do whatever you like, but karaka guna-sango ‘sya that will act.

Room Conversation Bombay, 14th August1976

Comment Posted By bhakta piyush mehta On 23.02.2007 @ 21:41

Those words which do not describe the glories of the Lord, who alone can sanctify the atmosphere of the whole universe, are considered by saintly persons to be like unto a place of pilgrimage for crows. Since the all-perfect persons are inhabitants of the transcendental abode, they do not derive any pleasure there.
PURPORT
Crows and swans are not birds of the same feather because of their different mental attitudes. The fruitive workers or passionate men are compared to the crows, whereas the all-perfect saintly persons are compared to the swans. The crows take pleasure in a place where garbage is thrown out, just as the passionate fruitive workers take pleasure in wine and woman and places for gross sense pleasure. The swans do not take pleasure in the places where crows are assembled for conferences and meetings. They are instead seen in the atmosphere of natural scenic beauty where there are transparent reservoirs of water nicely decorated with stems of lotus flowers in variegated colors of natural beauty. That is the difference between the two classes of birds.
Nature has influenced different species of life with different mentalities, and it is not possible to bring them up into the same rank and file.
Similarly, there are different kinds of literature for different types of men of different mentality. Mostly the market literatures which attract men of the crow’s categories are literatures containing refused remnants of sensuous topics. They are generally known as mundane talks in relation with the gross body and subtle mind. They are full of subject matter described in decorative language full of mundane similes and metaphorical arrangements. Yet with all that, they do not glorify the Lord. Such poetry and prose, on any subject matter, is considered decoration of a dead body. Spiritually advanced men who are compared to the swans do not take pleasure in such dead literatures, which are sources of pleasure for men who are spiritually dead. These literatures in the modes of passion and ignorance are distributed under different labels, but they can hardly help the spiritual urge of the human being, and thus the swanlike spiritually advanced men have nothing to do with them. Such spiritually advanced men are called also manasa because they always keep up the standard of transcendental voluntary service to the Lord on the spiritual plane. This completely forbids fruitive activities for gross bodily sense satisfaction or subtle speculation of the material egoistic mind.
Social literary men, scientists, mundane poets, theoretical philosophers and politicians who are completely absorbed in the material advancement of sense pleasure are all dolls of the material energy. They take pleasure in a place where rejected subject matters are thrown. According to Swami Sridhara, this is the pleasure of the prostitute-hunters.
But literatures which describe the glories of the Lord are enjoyed by the paramahamsas who have grasped the essence of human activities.

SB 1.5.10 with full PURPORT

On the other hand, that literature which is full of descriptions of the transcendental glories of the name, fame, forms, pastimes, etc., of the unlimited Supreme Lord is a different creation, full of transcendental words directed toward bringing about a revolution in the impious lives of this world’s misdirected civilization. Such transcendental literatures, even though imperfectly composed, are heard, sung and accepted by purified men who are thoroughly honest.

SB 1.5.11

Comment Posted By bhakta piyush mehta On 21.02.2007 @ 18:25

“It is a qualification of the great thinkers to pick up the best even from the worst. It is said that the intelligent man should pick up nectar from a stock of poison, should accept gold even from a filthy place, should accept a good and qualified wife even from an obscure family and should accept a good lesson even from a man or from a teacher who comes from the untouchables. These are some of the ethical instructions for everyone in every place without exception. But a saint is far above the level of an ordinary man. He is always absorbed in glorifying the Supreme Lord because by broadcasting the holy name and fame of the Supreme Lord, the polluted atmosphere of the world will change, and as a result of propagating the transcendental literatures like Srimad-Bhägavatam, people will become sane in their transactions.”

- Taken from Srila Prabhupada’s PURPORT to Srimad-Bhagavatam Verse. 1.5.11

Comment Posted By bhakta piyush mehta On 21.02.2007 @ 16:34

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