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Treating Vaisnavas with Care–in Appreciation of Satyaraja Prabhu’s Points

Gaurav, I didn’t say what a madhayama devotee is. I simply quoted Bhaktivinoda Thakura in response to your Urgent Request for a definition of a vaishnava. That’s the only reason I “addresed” you. Although you asked for a definition, it seems apparent that you really intended to offer one. Fine. Now we know.

As far as Mahavidya’s points go, my only response is that our speaking up–the actions we take, as well as the way we carry those actions out–should be guided by our siddhanta, the conclusions of the scriptures and the previous acharyas in our sampradaya, if they are to reflect well on our spiritual master. If a society or institutions behavior is guided primarily by other considerations, then it will create more problems than anything else. Previously, one of ISKCON’s guru/GBC/sannyasi types preached vigorously that only sannyasis can initiate disciples. His reasons included the assertion that all householders are addicted to sex, whereas sannyasis are free from sex desire (belied by his own behavior at the time and since), and that only sannyasis can get women to go out on “sankirtan.” One of these is just false, and the other is purely material, as well as mistaken. When I called him on it, suggesting that he thought he had a better standard for guru than Lord Chaitanya’s, his preaching of this false doctrine stopped.

Was Dhanurdhara Swami unqualified to run a gurukula, especially in Vrindavan? Apparently, from the evidence we have. Did he screw up in his attempt to do so? Darned right he did! The question we need to address now is what is his consciousness now? (That’s best answered by those who spend time with him now, not those who had a conversation with him 15 years ago.) What sort of service would Srila Prabhupada engage him in now? Answering that requires considering carefully the example he set repeatedly as his leaders screwed up. It may help to remember his pique when Tmal Krishna Maharaja widely broadcast news of Madudvisa’s leaving his posts: “Now you’ve made it impossible for him to return.”

Comment Posted By godhuli On 25.07.2006 @ 20:36

Gaurav, here’s a definition Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura gives early in Jaiva Dharma:

If you ask how to recognize a vaishnava, I will tell you that a vaishnava is someone who has given up all offenses and chants Krishna-nama with great feeling. There are three categories of vaisnavasL the kanistha, the madhyama, and the uttama. A kanistha vaishnava chants the name of Krishna occasionally, a madhyama chants the name of Krishna constantly, and the uttama vaishnava causes others to chant Sri Nama by his very presence. According to Mahaprabhu’s instructions, we do not need any other criteria by which to discern who is a viashnava.

Now, if you want to use this, or any other, set of criteria to judge Dhanurdhara Swami or anyone else, you should use the same criteria to ascertain to what degree you (or I) may be able to judge another. Do you chant pure Krishna-nama occasionally, or constantly? Does your presence inspire to chant pure Krishna-nama? We should all be more interested in examining our own qualifications than those of others. So your first question ought to be whether your mind is completely focused on Krishna.

Comment Posted By godhuli On 25.07.2006 @ 01:58

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