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The premise that divorce among ISKCON householders is more than the outside world is an empty assertions. One would ask as to what demographics such surveys were based on? Perhaps we have forgotten that ISKCON memberships is currently concentrated within the Indian communities. Basing the assumptions of the high divorce rate among the non-Indian devotees and apply that to be overall ISKCON is not a good justice and is infact insulting to the largest group of devotees that constitutes ISKCON membership.
Now lets assume, this is true about the ISKCON divorce rate being higher than the outside world: doesn’t this show failure of our own practice? Why would a person wants to be part of a religious organization that cannot hold a family together? What is our teaching? Where are our moral stands towards family life? Many of us who have been in the movement for long time know that in most household situations, the wives are usually more devoted to the guru than to the husbands. That’s why a man would often ask to whom does his wife married to? Is it to him or the guru? The wife would often see herself in competition with the husband in trying to be a better-devoted disciple to the guru rather than be a devoted wife to the husband. With such prevailing environments where the wives would rather see the devotion to the guru as paramount, marital life becomes untenable. Thus the proliferation of divorces within ISKCON.
In Vedic system, a woman is never independent. As young girl, under the protection of the father, and as a woman under the protection of the husband. In this case, being a protector means the husband is the guru of the wife, as he gives protection in all circumstances such as moral guidance and physical protection. The only valuable person in the whole world in a woman’s life is her husband. The only person more valuable is the Lord Himself. The story of Vrinda Devi is a testament to this. Draupadi gave instructions to Lord Krishna’s wives how a wive should satisfy a husband using her own experience as the wife of five husbands. When men see a devoted wife, they are ready to fight the whole world just to give her protection. Ravana was killed because Sita was insulted and Kuruksetra battle was waged because Pandava’s wife was insulted.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jul 1, 2014 @ 7:02 am
Dr. Kaunda, when he was the President of Zambia in the 80’s has long being an acquaintance of ISKCON devotees. He had a state dinner with His Holiness Bhakti-tirtha Swami around 1985. He has been a vegetarian for a long time. Iskcon was flourishing in Zambia in the 80’s to the early 90’s, and we had few local devotees who later got initiated. I was part of the initial pioneer devotees who preached in Zambia in 1982-1983.
By the way, Dr. Kaunda has since cease to be the President of Zambia. That was a long time ago when he was the president.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jul 30, 2014 @ 11:02 am
I will really miss Ramakeli Prabhu. His passing is so unexpected. We were talking several months ago about the plans to go back to Africa and establish preaching centers in few countries that had not being touched with Krishna consciousness before. Well, Krishna has His plan. Krishna knows what is better for His devotees, and He has taken proper care of Ramakeli Prabhu.
I pray to be similarly fortunate to receive the mercy of the Lord and His devotees at the time of my passing.
Jaya Srila Prabhupada, isvara dasa
» Posted By isvaradas On Sep 28, 2012 @ 9:04 am
Its much better if we don’t speculate without a valid proof our declarations. Such declarations as made in the article will simply invite unnecessary controversies and arguments. Other members of the Gaudiya sampradayas especially Srila Bhaktisiddhanta followers will not accept such interpretations of the scriptures, not to talk of other sampradayas. We can say that they are envious, but Srila Prabhupada himself would not condone such declarations. Srila Prabhupada said the secret of his success was because he followed his spiritual master one hundred percent. The greatness of Srila Prabhupada is not determined by how much we, his followers, make any kinds of declarations, but how much we actually followed and lived his teachings. A pure devotee is known by how many pure devotees like himself he created.
» Posted By isvaradas On Aug 9, 2012 @ 6:16 am
Lots are being said about differences among the devotees that are often irreconcilable. Babhru Prabhu explored deeply on this issue in his article. However Krishnakirti Prabhu’s response and suggested solutions seems far-fetched, at least to me. Krishna consciousness is about devotees’s association. But of course such associations must be made with those who are like-minded. On that respect, commonwealth principles as suggested by Krishna Kirti Prabhu may be adopted. However that suggestion is not on the higher principles. A devotee on the second and third class platforms may be suited for that. However the topmost class of devotees, the uttama bhaktas see things differently. An uttama devotee sees the whole world as connected and serving Krishna. Thus they have no problem associating with anyone. The song to the six goswamins states that they were dear to the gentle and the ruffians. A devotee who has reached this level of advancement and has developed love of Krishna becomes dear to everyone. The whole world is his/her house. Srila Prabhupada came to build such house.
Being intolerant of other’s view and positions are all symptoms of all the materialistic tendencies among the devotees. It will be wonderful if devotees could just take a moment and reflect within themselves if their currently inclinations are pleasing to Srila Prabhupada, our founder-acarya. One of the qualities of a devotee is that he is a well-wisher of all. But how can one be a well-wisher when there is a consideration of what is pleasing to one’ self? Being well-wishing is based on the love principle. Well-wishing does not denote superiority over others. In the spiritual world, every devotee is a well-wisher to another devotee. Every devotee encourages other devotees to be more of servant of the Lord than his/herself. Therefore the talks of commonwealth or separation among the devotees, in my opinion, really belong to kanistha category if not outright mayavada.
I think if devotees really becomes more internal and soul-search in terms of relationships among fellow devotees, most of the problems we are facing today in ISKCON can be minimized. As they say, “it has to be a spiritual solution.” Not a material one. Srila Prabhupada said all these resolutions, revolutions, resolutions and ultimately no solutions will not help.
» Posted By isvaradas On Mar 28, 2012 @ 6:26 am
Hare Krishna Vrindavan Chandra Prabhu
Criticism maybe there, but it shouldn’t be something that will divide the devotees. If we are unable to change a situation, whats is the point of criticizing. Normally one criticizes because of sanctimonious feeling. The feelings of knowing what is right better than others. Only Krishna is the decider of one’s activities. If we are not in agreement with devotees method of preaching or methods of activities, then the best way to serve such devotees is to let the organizations management deal with the situation. In this case, the GBC. That is why Srila Prabhupada created the GBC. And if the GBC feels its not something that is worth considering, then we should remain humble and be mindful of our own bhakti. We should not be attached to our ideas and be creating all kinds of confusions among the Vaisnava community.
What will make us dear to the Lord is not so much how we try to correct others, but rather our own sincere efforts in serving guru and Krishna.
» Posted By isvaradas On Nov 24, 2011 @ 5:35 pm
Though many of us may have differing views on range of issues pertaining to propagation of the Krishna consciousness movement, it is highly important that devotees learn to appreciate and glorifies the activities of other devotees. The assumption of holding to the views that our method of following the directions given by Srila Prabhupada as the only proper way and that all other views are wrong simply invite dissensions within the Vaisnava community.
Every devotee who is executing their devotional activities be it in the form of Mid-Day Meal programs, operating hospitals, holding medical camps, food for life accompanied by kirtans, etc., are all trying their best in serving Krishna. Criticizing such devotional activities just because we feel they are not direct preaching can itself be termed as committing offenses against the devotees who have dedicated their lives in spreading the holy names of the Lord.
It is better to appreciate and glorify what others are doing. Public condemnations of other devotees’ activities do no good to anyone, but rather dissatisfaction.
» Posted By isvaradas On Nov 21, 2011 @ 4:20 pm
Scriptures are full of details that may not be necessary for the pure execution of Krishna consciousness. The intention of the shastras is to arose faith in the humanity about the greatness and nature of the Supreme Being, so that a person can eventually serve the Supreme Lord as his rightful duty. As we delve more deeply into the scriptures, there has to be a point when certain areas of shastric descriptions may be fit to be cast aside. Mind-boggling descriptions such as King Ugrasena having four billion bodyguards may not worth repetiting by a deep thinker. My point is Vedic scriptures provided us with lots of details, but the same time, our acaryas have impressed upon us to be thoughtful. What is really matter for the devotee is the essential principle of Krishna consciousness, which is to develop love of Krishna. Intellectual acumen is not required on this point. As they said, ‘simplicity is Vaisnavism’, so a devotee casts aside all speculations regarding the rationalization behind all shastric descriptions and simply focus on developing his love of Krishna following the footsteps of the Vrajabasis.
Uddhava was a great pandit, being the disciple of Brhaspati. But when he went to Vrindavan to try to convince the Vrajabasis to stop feeling separations from Krishna, he found himself defeated, and thus prayed to be born as a grass in Vraja so the Vrajabasis could step upon him as they walk.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jan 27, 2011 @ 4:37 am
Even though Srila Prabhupada had written in the Srimad Bhagavatam that “it is a fact no one falls from the spiritual world”, you however keep on pontificating that the jivas in the material world have indeed all fallen from the spiritual world. You are indeed contradicting Srila Prabhupada and all the Vaisnava Acaryas who had taught on the subject. Perhaps you can suggest to us how it is possible to leave the loving association of Lord Krishna.
I would suggest you re-read the Adi-lila Chapter 4 and Madhya-liila Chapter 8 of Sri Caitanya Caritamrta,where Srila Prabhupada wrote extensively on the subject of love of Krishna.
This whole idea of fallen from the spiritual world had risen due to our unshakable impersonalistic mentalities.
» Posted By isvaradas On Dec 27, 2010 @ 4:21 am
I do applaud the efforts of Radhakrpa Mataji in her preaching while in Thailand. Such preaching efforts can be seeing all over the world that are targeted to the immigrant people of Indian origins. Such people of Indian origins have revived their dormant Krsna consciousness through the preaching efforts of ISKCON devotees coming from all over the world. However the truth of the matter is preaching to those audience does not pose any real challenge to a preacher. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta said it takes more than a pint of blood to convince someone in taking up Krishna consciousness. In reality it will take more than 10 gallons of blood to convince a non-Indian person in taking up Krishna consciousness. Any preacher can attest to that fact.
Apart from Eastern European countries which include Russia and now China, that are seeing vibrancy in people taking up Krishna consciousness, every other places in the world has become dormant. Devotee preachers have taken their comforts in preaching to the people of Indian origins. Preaching to Indians is the easiest. All one has to do is to open his mouth, do some kirtans and say something about Krishna, then one will be surrounded by throngs of Indians. Indians are naturally pious and religious-minded people, so seeing a preacher in their adopted country provides a relief for them, for having seeing something that they left at home. Because of this easy acceptance and adulation that devotee preachers receive from the immigrant Indian population, the real preaching mandate that was given to us by Srila Prabhupada has been abandoned. I was told when devotees asked Srila Prabhupada in England if they should preach to the Indians, Srila Prabhupada replied “no”, saying that the Indians are naturally Krishna conscious, rather the effort should be directed to the local people. Unfortunately this order of Srila Prabhupada is not being followed today.
» Posted By isvaradas On Dec 4, 2010 @ 4:02 pm
Thailand has a very big potential for Krishna consciousness, the Thai people being very simple-minded have a good disposition of being faithful people. All over Thailand, you can see Thai people making their pranams to all kinds of Vedic deities such as Ganesh, Brahma, Lakshmi, Vishnu and of course Lord Buddha. Even at their prestigious international airport is the big diorama of the churning the ocean of Nectar, with the devas and demons all pulling the big name; in a sense; just like the Bhagavatam painting.
While the Thai people thus have such a great potential for taking up Krishna consciousness, our ISKCON outreach largely focus mainly on the immigrant Nepalis and the Burmese. Our real target, which is the Thai people are replaced by the easy acceptance we get from Nepalis and Burmese immigrants who are all technically Indians.
I don’t see it as a preaching success when all we can focus or care about are the immigrants of Indian origins who are spread all over the world, rather than the locals.
» Posted By isvaradas On Dec 2, 2010 @ 11:35 am
Its nothing new for people being able to remember their earlier or previous lives. It was mentioned in the Srimad Bhagavatam how a child in the womb is able to remember his previous lives and thus vowing not return to a mother’s womb. It was simply after coming out of the womb and getting trapped in all the new attractions in the current life that a persons forgets the account of the past existence. However there few individuals who are able to remember that. The ability to forget one’s previous existence is also a mercy of God. Say for instance one is in great and comfortable situation in the previous life, and due to karmic reactions, one is in put in a bad existence now, how horrible feelings it will be if one is made aware of one’s former position in a previous lifes.
I remember more than forty years ago when my grandfather was passing away, just before he passed, I used to sit with him, and he would be recounting the events of his life coming to him just a television. He would be seeing so many visions and would be asking me if I am seeing this or that, or if I am seeing the same events that were unfolding before his eyes. Of course I was seeing nothing, but to make him feel happy, I would be telling him that I am seeing the same thing.
In one sense, many do have the gift of recollecting their previous existence. I think it is quite immature to be categorically slamming those who are claiming their previous existence. Agnostics don’t believe in anything, not to talk of the subject of re-incarnation. What power do we have to judge a person who is able to remember his/her previous existence if we ourselves are not bordering on agnosticism.
Another thing that has been amusing me lately is the conceptions that the devotees are having that as soon as someone passes away and he is chanting the holy name,, then he automatically goes to the spiritual world. Such a ridiculous conceptions goes against the teachings of the acaryas. It takes lifetimes of achieving perfections. Even after attaining the perfections, one still have to take birth a planet where Krishna is performing His pastimes, in the family of a devotee. There are required trainings involved such as one’s eternal activities under a particular guidance. There is no training in the spiritual world, but pure loving service. So if someone hasn’t entered the realm of loving transcendental attachment to the Lord’s service, which spiritual world the person is going or has gone?
» Posted By isvaradas On Oct 15, 2010 @ 6:14 am
Good points mataji.
I can never figure out the usefulness of this social websites. Though I’m on some of them, I may visit them at most once a month. It may be useful for sending and receiving messages, but that can also be done by email or on Skype. Its true devotees spend more time on this social websites than the personal association with the devotees. E-age has become the greatest impediments for relishing interpersonal devotee associations.
» Posted By isvaradas On Sep 23, 2010 @ 6:26 am
In reality, the title is given when the person is alive and not post-posthumously. Our tradition is always based on that. When someone passes on, they are remembered by what they did and not by unnecessary titles.
In our ISKCON society, Vaisnavas are usually not given any importance by what they are contributing to the spread of the Sankirtan movement unless they are some big time leaders. However the importance of such Vaisnavas are realized only if they suddenly passed away as we are just experiencing.
It will be better if we honor the Vaisnavas, by what they are contributing to the Sanskirtan Movement no matter how small, when they are alive, instead of doing so after their departure.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jul 22, 2010 @ 3:07 pm
Aindra Prabhu was certainly a great Vaisnava who inspired thousand by his dedication to the 24 hours kirtans in Krishna Balarama Mandira in Vrindavan.
However, the title “Namacarya, only belong to one personality; that is Srila Haridasa Thakura, given by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu Himself. Calling Andira Prabhu ‘namacarya’ seems too farfetched. He himself would be amused to hear that. He considered himself a servant of the Namacarya Haridas Thakura.
There has been many great Vaisnavas who inspired millions by their chanting of the holy name, notably Srila Narottama Das Thakura, but no one ever suggested that the title be awarded to them.
Nonetheless, the sudden departure of Aindra Prabhu has created a huge vacuum among the ISKCON devotees. We have been deprived of the association of such a great Vaisnava.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jul 19, 2010 @ 10:03 am
Normal understanding is that if one breaks Ekadasi, then one should observe Ekadasi again on trayodasi and not on dvadasi.
The implications of over emphasizing the Pandva Nirjala Ekadasi is a lay devotee may take advantage of this injunction of doing nirjala on Bhima Ekadasi to neutralize the offense of having broken other Ekadasis in the year, by just observe only Bhima Ekadasi by nirjala in the year, and not observe any other Ekadasis at all the rest of year.
Ekadasis have been described to be a day of Lord Hari. One can inch more closer to prema bhakti on Ekadasis through increased hearing and chanting.
There are few Ekadasis that are described to be very potent even more so than Bhima Ekadasi. Vaikuntha Ekadasi and Rama Ekadasi come to the mind.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jun 21, 2010 @ 4:28 am
Nice thought and obeservation. But how do we address this in light of so many ISKCONs that has been created within ISKCON, where those individual ISKCONs prefer to maintain there own separate identities?
ys, Isvara dasa.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jul 13, 2009 @ 5:58 am
It is well understood that the sannyasa ashram is the last order of spiritual life wherein someone enters a life of full dedication to the Supreme Lord. Thus a sannyasi is regarded as the spiritual master of all the ashrams. Lord Krishna elaborated this fully to Uddhava in the 11th Canto of Srimad Bhagavatam as to the role and duty of someone who is in the renounced order of life. Thus a real sannyasi is expected to emulate whatever ideals have been explained in the Srimad Bhagavatam and all the allied scriptures.
In ISKCON the sannyasa order of life has arguably taken on a different form and might now been seen more akin to the Indian caste system, where a qualification is not necessarily the main criteria once one has become a sannyasa. Often being a sannyasi in ISKCON is seen as ‘reaching the top’ due to the many ‘perks’ associated with it like; maha-prasad, priority accommodation, donations, transportations, unlimited obeisances from devotees etc. Some ISKCON sannyasis apparently own properties, which is something you will struggle to see in other societies such as for example; Gaudiya Math, as a sannyasi is supposed to stay with the brahmacaris in the ashram. The famous siksastakam verse ‘na dhanam na janam na sundarim’ is in danger of serious neglect.
The sannyasa order of life is a life of simplicity, but how many of our ISKCON sannyasis are living that simple life? Many sannyasis have neatly pressed silk dhotis and comfortable living arrangements etc. Caitanya Mahaprabhu instructed that a person who has entered the renounced order of life should not eat palatable foodstuffs, wear good clothes or have a comfortable sleeping arrangement. There is of course the principle of ‘yukta vairagya’ , but we must be very careful not to abuse that principle.
The bottom line is a pure sannyasi is worshipable by one and all, and while there are many sannyasis in ISKCON who warrants such worship, we all must be vigilant to ensure that if the basic standards demanded of the sannyasa ashram are not being met, action should be taken. Such actions will both protect the sannyasi/s in question as well as good name of ISKCON long into the future.
Haribol, Isvara dasa.
» Posted By isvaradas On Mar 11, 2009 @ 5:50 am
I wonder why making a big announcement about someone taking sanyassa of life. Sanyassa order of life is consider to be a social suicide, when someone turns his back completely to the material world and dedicates his mind, life and body to the Supreme Lord Krishna. Somehow in ISKCON we’ve made it to be some big social position.
» Posted By isvaradas On Feb 23, 2009 @ 2:45 pm
ISKCON devotees are currently having a parikrama in Jagannatha Puri. It will be a big shame if the devotees at the parikrama simply go about their parikrama without lodging a strong protest with the Puri administration. I heard there are about 4000 ISKCON devotees in Puri. I wonder what they are doing.
This is the greatest insult ever experienced in our lifetime. A devotee can tolerate any offense unto himself. but offense unto a pure devotee of the Lord is the most intolerable.
I am still waiting to hear official ISKCON response to this.
P.S. As a personally protest, I am boycotting Puri for as long as the offenders are not brought to book. I will champagne to anybody I know to boycott Puri.
» Posted By isvaradas On Nov 16, 2008 @ 8:04 am
There is no need of compromising with the offenders. We should be extremely outrage by this severe blasphemy. They are bunch of ignorant who have no understanding of Jagannatha tattva. If Srila Prabhupada had seen it fit to follow the smarta tradition, he would have instructed us so. Ratha Yatra is not about some tradition but about cleansing our hearts so the Lord can come and sit.
ys, Isvara dasa
» Posted By isvaradas On Nov 17, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
Well, a kirtaniya that I came to really love is HH. Lokanatha Swami Maharaja. Maharaja has got such unique, creative and melodious ways that just plug you right into the bliss of the holy name. He really helps one have a sweet taste for hearing the chanting of the holy name. His temple kirtans are always blissful and ecstatic. Ever since I first saw HH. Lokanatha Maharaja since about thirty year ago, he just keep getting better all the time with his sweet chantings. The wonderful part of it is HH. Lokanatha Maharaja is part of our sampradaya, the dear disciple of Srila Prabhupada, and I would say the modern day acarya of the holy name.
All glories to all the sankirtan devotees.
» Posted By isvaradas On Aug 18, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
I have listened to all these kirtaniyas like Jai Uttal and Krishna dasa from their CD’s. While instrumentals may be relaxing, but the songs themselves are hodgepodge of everything. These singers don’t know the difference between Radha Krishna, Sita Rama and Siva Parvati. To them everything is all one, because they are basically mayavadis.
I jut don’t agree that as the followers of Caitanya Mahaprabhu in the line of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta and Srila Prabhupada, we have to pay any heed to these people. These people have found a money making niche in the West and are capitalising on it. We have nothing to gain from them other than entertaining our hears. Any serious preachers can derive unlimited kirtan inspirations by simply spending some time in Vrindavan and Mayapur.
One of Srila Prabhupada’s moto was always purity is the force. If we have purity, we can convince the whole world to take to Krishna consciousness. When Srila Prabhupada was advised in America to adopt Western style of dressing etc., so as to convince the Westerners, he refused.
Because of all these attempts to be accepted by the public, all our preaching efforts has become poluted, and the result are very vivid in all our temples outside India. We are increasingly eager to adopt all kinds of methods, such as these yoga practise, or that famous kirtaniyas etc. But at the end of it, where do all these lead to. Devotees are frustrated with each other.
I admire Satyaraja Prabhu for all his wonderful writings. But I think in the West we are just going too far in our attempts to suit our preachings to the Western taste. I still firmly beleive that Srila Prabhupada’s way is the most perfect.
» Posted By isvaradas On Aug 16, 2008 @ 4:12 am
Haribol Antayami Prabhu,
Just as Bhagavad-gita is part of Mahabharat, which is a great scripture, but separated for special emphasis, similarly, Uddhava-gita, though part of Srimad Bhagavatam, is taken out of Srimad Bhagatam as a separate book, for special emphasis. Plus this edition of Uddhava Gita is more nectarian because we have the purports of our acaryas: Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura.
ys, Isvara dasa.
» Posted By isvaradas On Sep 11, 2007 @ 10:32 am
Yoga practise is essentially meant to bring one to the mode of goodness, so the finer elements of the body is able to take up spiritual life. Constant meditation on the Supreme Lord is difficult if the mind is unsteady or its always disturbed. Thus, in the Srimad Bhagavatam, Lord Krishna in His instructions to Uddhava, mentioned pranayama to be daily performed by a spiritual practioner. Such a practise frees the body from disease, and thus one is able to contemplate on the absolute truth.
Yoga practise itself has to be authentic, following the Vedic tradition. There is one yoga teacher in India now, who has become quite famous. His name is Swami Ramadeo. His practise is quite authentic, and through his recommendations, one can infact eliminate several diseases of the body, both gross and subtle, and thus the mind is calmed. Unless the mind is calmed, where is the possibility of practising Krishna consciousness.
I personally don’t mind if some sections of ISKCON use yoga teaching as a tool for preaching, or for developing environment for people in taking up Krishna consciousness, however, the practise must be authentic. Not what was in the pictures above. Swami Ramdeo has several videos which I think the devotees who are in the line of yoga preaching can take a clue from.
» Posted By isvaradas On Jun 5, 2007 @ 5:44 am
There is a saying that when a person is haunted by ghost, he says all kinds of rubbish that has no meaning to an intelligent person. Many unfortunate people said all kinds of garbage that Srila Prabhupada only gave this much or that much etc., therefore there is a need for something higher. Such persons can be compared to ghostly haunted persons. Therefore, they need not be taken seriously. I remembered once Srila Prabhupada was lecturing on how Krishna consciousness is a heart transaction, that the success of it depends on how much we adapt ourselfs to it. As a matter of fact, everything that’s needed to be known are all in Srila Prabhupada’s books and his teachings. The realisation of it all depends on our level of faith. As Srila Narottama dasa Thakura rightly pointed out that the lotus feet of the spiritual master are the only way by which one can attain pure devotional service. The lotus feet of the sad-guru like Srila Prabhupada is forever flowing with pure honey which are the nectar of Krishna conscioussness. Only those who are faithful to him can really taste the honey. The effect of being unable to taste the nectar is the wandering of the mind that says “Oh Srila Prabhupada only gave ABC, therefore let me go there to hear something deeper”. It’s nothing but maya.
» Posted By isvaradas On Apr 9, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Bhakta Shailend wrote:
“During his quest to find the greatest devotee of the supreme personality of Godhead Sri Krsna, Devarsri Narada scanned both the spiritual and material worlds. On his journey he came across various great personalities including his father Lord Brahma.”
Narada Muni was only in the material world searching for the best devotee of the Lord. The classifications of various levels of devotees are only done in the material and not the spiritual world. In the spiritual world, service to the Lord is ever increasing and there is constant competition between how the devotee pleases the Lord and the Lord in turn reciprocates with His devotees.
» Posted By isvaradas On Mar 31, 2007 @ 5:13 am
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Your article is pure speculation. Where is your scriptural authority. You should only speak with sastric authority. Where did you heard that a jiva was first with Krsna in Goloka, then became envious to enjoy like Krishna, and then dejected from Goloka into Brajyoti.
Please before making such statements, quote sastric authority. Hare Krishna.
» Posted By isvaradas On Mar 29, 2007 @ 3:34 am
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