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Kinds and degrees of illicit sex

Hello Suresh Das, I have to tell you that I admire you greatly, not only for your open candor with your psychological state but also for your ability to have faith even during a dark night. I have always disliked the idea that we are “tested” for our stamina, but the truth is that you inspire faith in others by your continued loyality. You seem like a modern Job and my prayer is that Krishna will lighten your burden. I myself have no qualifications, I’m not even a true practitioner, but your story gives me hope that even I can find a way to become focused on his Lotus feet.

Comment Posted By mata On 01.05.2007 @ 02:39

Response to the ongoing debate

Excuse my lack of knowledge of Srila Prabupada’s voluminous teachings, but I have always understood that the essence of ISKON was to glorify and spread Krishna Consciousness through the merciful teachings of Lord Chaitanya. I had naturally assumed that even demoniac behavior could be uplifted through the process of hearing, chanting and association. Proper Vaishnava behavior would never seem to condone a flaunting of ones sexual preference,even as sex itself is abandoned. Why must ISKON take a stand on homosexuality, I thought that all sin is to be overcome, not categorized and judged.

Comment Posted By mata On 22.03.2007 @ 17:12

Hello, As one of the 99.99% of the less than imperfect souls, I can testify to the power of taking shelter of Lord Chaitanya. I had been chanting Hare Krishna without the shelter of a Spiritual Master and my appetite for Srimad Bagavatam and association of the devotees increased but my “negative attractions” seemed unsurmountable. Now that I have increased my Pancha Tattva rounds I have, almost instantly lost the desire for wine (which was a favorite for many years). I give the credit to the mercy of Lord Chaitanya and thank you to the devotees who brought this to my attention. I look forward to losing more hankerings which would impede my desire for Krishna only. Hari Bol

Comment Posted By mata On 20.03.2007 @ 22:27

Kali yuga Japa Counter!

Please accept a short note, the above comment was not meant to be in bold, except for the quote from Srila Prabupada about the neophyte, excuse my lack of tech expertise. Perhaps I am reading these purports out of context, again I am only trying to understand the best path for someone who has a hard time disengaging the senses from the material entanglements. I was trying to send this comment before, but I’m not sure it went through because my computer hiccupped.

Comment Posted By mata On 10.03.2007 @ 18:01

Please accept my gratitude for your inputs and also know that there is no intention here to sow discord, only to find the quickest way back to my Beloved, Krishna. Because I do recognize myself as a servent of the senses, and I do not qualify to receive a Spiritual Master on the earthly plane, I accept the guidance that Krishna sends to me through his devotees in order to disentangle myself, I went to the Adi-lila purport cited above and text 23 spoke to my heart, just as dancing and chanting do:

In distributing love of Godhead, Caitanya Mahaprabhu and His associates did not consider who was a fit candidate and who was not, nor where such distribution should or should not take place. They made no conditions. Wherever they got the opportunity the members of the Panca-tattva distributed love of Godhead.

It seems that this text also addresses the clicker issue, that is whenever we have the opportunity to remember Krishna, we need make no conditions on that. I find myself spontaneously chanting and singing Krishna’s names throughout the day, when I am serving my family through cooking and attending to our farm. I guess because I am not very advanced I don’t try to count those times nor to force them.

The reason I have asked for clarification with the Maha-mantra is this:

Cc Adi 8.31
caitanya-nityanande nahi esaba vicara, nama laite prema dena, vahe asrudhara

“But if one only chants, with some slight faith, the holy names of Lord Gauranga and Nityananda, very quickly he is cleansed of all offenses. Since in the chanting of the names of Nityananda-Gauranga there is no consideration of offenses, one will very quickly come to the stage of love of God, simply by chanting Their names and tears of pure love for Krishna will flow from the eyes.”

PURPORT BY SRILA PRABHUPADA:
[…]”For an ordinary man, worship of Sri Caitanya and Nityananda Prabhu or the Panca-tattva is easier than worship of Radha and Krsna. Unless one is very fortunate, he should not be induced to worship Radha-Krsna directly. A neophyte student who is not sufficiently educated or enlightened should not indulge in the worship of Sri Radha and Krsna or the chanting of the Hare Krsna mantra. Even if he does so, he cannot get the desired result. One should therefore chant the names of Nitai-Gaura and worship Them without false prestige.”

and this:

PURPORT BY SHRILA BHAKTISIDDHANTA SARASVATI THAKURA PRABHUPADA:

[…] “The Hare Krsna maha-mantra considers the offenses whereas the names of Gaura-Nityananda don’t consider offenses. An offensive chanter will never achieve the fruit of chanting (pure love for Krsna) by chanting the Hare Krsna maha-mantra. Therefore till the time he is commiting offenses, he should chant the names of Gaura-Nityananda. Due the repeated chanting of the names of Gaura-Nityananda, the offenses will destroyed and he will achieve the fruit of chanting.”

Perhaps my ignorance is causing me to become confused. I just know that until I receive Krishna’s mercy in whichever form, I will continue to pray for directions home.
I do wish to thank all the devotees for their singing and chanting bliss and to HG Bhurijana Prabhu for his downloadable Srimad Bhavagatum lectures which keep me in the company of pure devotees throughout the day.

Comment Posted By mata On 09.03.2007 @ 11:48

I have a question about japa for the non-initiated person who loves Krishna but is unable to follow the 4 regulative principles due to a predominance of the lower gunas. I have read that in this case one should not chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare because Krishna will count the offenses, rather one should chant Shree Caitanya Nityananda because these appearances are more merciful. This seems confusing to me and at odds with the chant Hare Krishna concept spread by ISKON, because most people in the world are still ruled by the lower gunas.

Comment Posted By mata On 08.03.2007 @ 11:44

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