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My humble pranams to Urmila Prabhu. I would like to share my 2 cents on this topic.
1) When you call some one prabhu, you mean you are uplifting them above Stri/Shudra category. Prabhupada have few times called his senior female disciples as prabhu and that uplifts them from the female figure. Urmila Prabhu is above stri/prusha/varna boundaries as she is a Shri Krishna devotee and hence she can be called Prabhu and when we call some one prabhu we must be ready to hear them too!!
2) I think way back we have come above the debate of Bhakti is above any Varna based rules and regulation. A pure devotee does not care about Varna based restrictions. A pure devotee is always eager to speak about Shri Krishna. Here in Urmila Prabhus scenario she was asked to speak and she spoke about her eternal love to Krishna, her service to Prabhupada and her service to devotee community by serving children devotees to make them Krishna Conscious.
3) Even according to Varna samstan a women should speak when asked to speak, here Urmila Prabhu is speaking from Vyasasana only when asked by senior men and Sanyasis. If she had rejected offer to speak then again she would have committed offense of not obeying senior men and sanyasis!! VS man senior vaishnavis are speaking here even without any invitation and infact arguing with some senior men too!! Even by their own philosophy, women is less intelligent then men, they should never argue with men as no matter what men does women will always remain less intelligent and hence should simply follow their stri dharma :/ (Personally I do not agree with women or men discrimination in Bhakti Yoga).
Thats it… rest debates will always go on… they have happen in past too when ladies of Bhramanis were not following their husbands and they will go on for ever… Again my humble obeisances to Urmila Prabhu.
» Posted By omdas On Jul 24, 2011 @ 6:00 am
Please accept my humble obeisances,
All glories to shrila prabhupada,
Please forgive me if I by any chance offend any one.
I just want to say that even Gopis and Bhaktisiddhanta have worshipped Lord Siva and there is no harm in respecting this great Vaishnava Acharya (Rudra Sampradaya) for any reason. Yes as the Padma Puran shloka says that we should not worship him considering him as equal to Krishna but yes offering him respects by singing his glories.
Gopisvara pranama-mantra (from Siva’s Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Sri Saìkalpa-kalpa-thakura’s , text 103) is:
vrindavanavani-pate! jaya soma! soma-maule!
prema prayaccha nirupadhi namo namas te
O gatekeeper of Vrindavana! O Soma, all glories to you! O you whose forehead is decorated with the moon, and who is worshipful for the sages headed by Sanaka, Sanandana, Sanatana and Narada! O Gopisvara! Desiring that you bestow upon me prema for the lotus feet of Sri Radha-Madhava, who perform joyous pastimes in Vraja-dhama, I offer obeisances unto you time and again.
» Posted By omdas On Jun 15, 2008 @ 7:21 pm
No no prabhuji I was not offended at all from what you said. Infact that made me think…… is passion to preach more powerfull or desire of soul to learn truth is more powerfull. I dont know the answer as per you said that we need to grow yet!
My only view towards India is…. as few days before there was a tittle for one topic, it was some thing like this or may be I have mistaken but any ways…… While the Ship of Hinduism is sinking in India, we (ISKCON) might fill up our boat but will that be enough.
» Posted By omdas On Mar 16, 2008 @ 6:21 am
Very nice points raised by Akrura prabhuji, yes we should definately accept social responsibilities that follows Sanatan Dharama, but prabhuji my only question is that if we dont clarify our position then how will people know about us?
Sankirtana is good but I still believe in need of Knowledge as much or may be littel lesser. I am just saying 2 things here 1) We should not wait for fire to start before we can start digging well 2) No answer means we dont have answer.
Atlast it is not only about this Dr Naik or one Christian website but we need to see the larger senario of this. Any ways krishna is the supreme controller so I will let him decide!
» Posted By omdas On Mar 15, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
Dear Radhavallabh,Gourgopal & “Aspiring Vaishnava” prabhu,
please accept my humble obeisances
all glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga!
all glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Thansk for your feed back. I will just like to clarify my point of view.
Yes Radhavallabha prabhu you are right, we can not convert any one and that is not even our aim to do. Krishna is the supreme controller and Gouranga Mahaprabhu is the supreme preacher, but prabhuji I am only requesting that we should put a website which specifically focuses on the questions that neophyte, religionist and fanatics pose towards Sanatan Dharma. This website should only focus on answering such odd questions as:
• Why do we eat plant if they also have life?
• What happens after death?
• Who was Jesus as per Vedas? And if he was recommended as scholar then why should we not follow him?
• Who was Prophet Mohammed as per Vedas? And if he was recommended as scholar then why should we not follow him?
• Did Rama eat meat?
• Why did Krishna marry so many girls?
• Does God have any form?
• Why does Vedas so many times refer formless Bhraman to be God?
There are so many questions but just they need to be presented in systematically and with full of references from Sanatan Dharama scriptures.
Yes we do book stands and sell magazines, but Prabhuji you know that we can not answer all the questions again and again in every edition, plus for those people who freak out from picking up other religion’s scripture they will never know about it! There is many more reason to put such website.
Plus there are lots of Hindus (I will not call them Devotees) who want instant answers just to defend their own religion, I mean when they are questioned they need answers, they don’t want to spend time reading hundred of pages to find one answer! Such people will be very favorable to us when we provide them all the answers with proper references and proper philosophy so that can be a preaching tool as well. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not against any other form of preaching and I think book distribution was, is and will be the best preaching tool for ever, but still there are lots of other reasons to put up a website like this.
I recently saw Nandanandan Prabhujis website, it was very informative but still we need some thing more organized and easily accessible with particular topics and references.
» Posted By omdas On Mar 14, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
Here are some of the links; they are from different Muslim organizations. One organization I am really worried about is Dr Zakir Naiks http://www.irf.net he is the master mind behind challenging Sanatan Dharma. Now the thing with him is he has studied most of the Sanatan Dharma scriptures and he can quote verses after verses just to justify his motives to propagate Islam! I would have not mind reading him if he was analyzing all this Vedic scriptures with purity and honesty but his motives are wrong. Please check the links and you will realize what I mean.
Plus now what he does is he invites different Hindu gurus and scholars (mostly mayavadis) in the name of interfaith debate and then he will smash them in front of thousands of people by quoting from Vedas and different scriptures and we know how much these mayavadi gurus are educated about scriptures so in total all these people who come to see this debate goes with the impression that YES ISLAM is the only right religion and even Vedas recommend accepting Prophet Mohammed as the real guru!!
Just to clarify I am not racist person and I have full respect towards Islam but this is not the right way how Dr Zakir Naik and some other does.
Please check this video for sure and you will realize what I was talking about. Only problem is this is in Hindi!! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8457665130451146736&q=zakir+naik+ravi
To see the involvement of Christian missionary please see the link below. My one mistake in writing the original article was, Christians don’t go on such websites and don’t fall in such debates they rather go home to home of poor people (I don’t want to mention all that caste system of India) and systematically propagate against Vedas and Sanatan Dharma.
There are lots of more sites but I am sure from this you will get the idea of what I am talking about.
» Posted By omdas On Mar 12, 2008 @ 10:08 pm
Firstly I will clarify that I drink milk (including commercial milk).
I have heard lots of arguments from KC point of view but to be honest I am still not able to accept drinking commercial milk on basis of these arguments.
The best argument so far on the issue of drinking commercial milk is that it does lots of Good for Cow to offer her (can be commercial) milk to krishna, so spiritually she gets benefit and she also gets liberated by us doing so. And as it is offered to krishna it is ok if we drink it. Still to be honest I am not able to justify this argument!
Second best argument is based on shastras that milk helps bhramacharya and also helps mental developement on spirituall path, but again I am not able to accept this argument for commercial milk!
Also I have heard that Organic milk carries fish oil. Normally they put chemicals to substitute Vitamin D but organic milk needs natural product and hence they use fish oil to substitute Vitamin D. I might be wrong on this still cow killing is done even in the organic industry which puts organic milk in commercial milk only.
Hence even though I drink milk I am not able to justify drinking commercial milk!
I will be very happy if some one can show me better understanding for drinking commercial milk.
As for vegan also I try and explain them as written in comment #4 most of times it works but some sentimental Vegans dont accept that.
» Posted By omdas On Feb 20, 2008 @ 10:34 pm
Regarding the dove thing…. comment #4
In India till today (previously this was more common) it happens that poor people (traditionally hunters and such people who dont have land or job to do) will keep birds caged outside temples and devotees visiting temple will pay some money to this seller and release a bird. Devotees think it to be a good deed for the day and releases one bird.
I also hope that Jewish people offered bird in this way.
» Posted By omdas On Feb 7, 2008 @ 10:28 pm
I think it takes around 1.5 to 2 hours to make ghee from seprated cream….. Also if one temple or farm is producing ghee then it can be transported to different temples and then different temples can sell it.
Also I personally dont mind if any milk (i.e. milk from shopping malls) is used in making ghee, as far there is no animal fat or any thing unedible for us is in there!!
I am looking forward for this to happen some time….. hare krishna
» Posted By omdas On Dec 4, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
Yes this is a very good idea for a devotee or for a temple business…. we allready sell lots of food items from our temple stores then why not ghee as well….. ghee can easily be stored for months withouth going out of date!! so yes I request temples to start selling ghee from there…. Iwill love to be first customer even if it is bit expensive…. Thanks and hare krishna
» Posted By omdas On Nov 30, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Can you please list the name the brands which perticullarly uses Animal fat, and also seprate list of companies which uses vegetable oil or buffalo milk to produce ghee…. I am ok with vegetarian mixtures with ghee as I dont have any time to cook ghee for my self so please give the details…
» Posted By omdas On Nov 29, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
What a great devotee…. Can you please post his photo, I have strong feeling to see how does a great devotee look like…. Thanks
» Posted By omdas On Oct 24, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
simply amazing…… I dont have any othe words to describe greatness of this devotee…… Jai Jaganath…..
» Posted By omdas On Sep 18, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Dear Rod prabhu I dont think there is any difference between what you are saying and what I have quoted from the Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur in his Jaiva Dharma (Volume Three, Chapter 15, page 70-1) or from Brihadaranyaka Upanishad.
Yes some words are diffrently used both places but if you read minutely the meaning is same.
Also my personal experience in reading shastra is that many times same words are used contradictly to send a perticullar message but if you try to understand the meaning in whole then every thing totals up to same only (I am talking about shastras that we read in Vaishnav understanding). So personally I have stoped scrutinising all this things just to keep my self in peace. Please do not take this as I am suggesting you to do the same, infact I enjoyed reading different opinions from devotees like you.
Your Aspiring Servant,
» Posted By omdas On Oct 26, 2007 @ 5:54 pm
So the tatastha region is in between the spiritual and material worlds, and is where the living beings are manifested. The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (4.3.9 & 18) describes it like so: “A person has two places: the spiritual world and the place where the spiritual world meets another world. There is also a third place, a place of dreams [the material domain]. Standing between them, the soul sees on one side the spiritual world and on the other the place of dreaming. . . As a large fish in a river may go to one shore or the other, so a person may go to one world or another. He may go to a world where he is awake, or may go to a world made of dreams.”
The tatastha region is further explained by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur in his Jaiva Dharma (Volume Three, Chapter 15, page 70-1) as follows:
The place where a river’s waters meet with the land of the shore is called the “tata.” The “tata” is then the place where the water meets land. What is the nature of this “tata”? It is like the thinnest of threads that runs along the boundary of land and water. A “tata” is like the finest of lines, so small that the gross material eyes cannot even see it. In this example the spiritual world is like the water and the material world is like the land. The thin line that separates them is the “tata.” That boundary place is the abode of the individual spirit souls. The individual souls are like the atomic particles of sunlight. The souls can see both the spiritual world and the material world created by maya. The Lord’s spiritual potency, chit-shakti, is limitless, and the Lord’s material potency, maya-shakti, is gigantic. Standing between them, the individual spirit soul is very tiny. The individual spirit souls are manifested from the tatastha-shakti of Lord Krishna. Therefore the souls are naturally situated on the boundary (tatastha) of matter and spirit.
The “tatastha” nature of the souls refers to the fact that they must be under the control of one of these two potencies. The actual place of the “tata” (shore) may change. What was once dry land may be covered with water, and what was once covered by water may again become dry land. If he [the jiva soul] turns his gaze upon Lord Krishna, the soul comes under the shelter of Lord Krishna’s spiritual potency. But if he turns away from Krishna and turns his gaze to the material potency, maya, then the soul is caught in maya’s trap. That is what is meant by “the soul’s tatastha nature.”
The spirit souls are completely spiritual. However, because they are atomic in size, the souls are not very strong. That is why maya can dominate them. However, in the soul’s nature there is not the slightest scent of maya.
» Posted By omdas On Oct 25, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
I accept what prabhuji is saying…. I think like we have bhakti shastri and other courses, same way we should have “Guest Greeting Course” for a team of regullar devotees so that they can go and welcome every new face to the temple.
Thanks & Hare Krishna
» Posted By omdas On Sep 6, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
This is very nice and eye’s opening article. Thanks maharaja….
» Posted By omdas On Aug 1, 2007 @ 12:41 am
Well said Bhakta Eric I appreciate your reply in the sence of serving all qualities to Krishna. Also about music instruments I think in the same sence if some instrument is attracting peoples attention then no harm in using them!! I personally will see any thing good if it turns peoples attention towards Krishna (yes in satvic mode!).
» Posted By omdas On Jul 25, 2007 @ 5:40 pm
I think we all have diffrent experences doing different things…. and on the basis of those expereiences we get some realisations…… on basis of those realisations we understand shastras…. on basis of those realisations and understanding of shastras we make our own understanding and try to do best (atleast to serve guru and krishna)….. it might not be the same as some one else as we all are seprate individuals…. but untill we are walking in the right direction we must continue walking…..
Hence in this connection I will say that we should not interup or say any one that they have wrong motives or false motives (atleast in public) in serving Krishna or guru by comparing that person on the level of our realisation and understandings. Just let people learn as they progress. We should be happy that atleast some one is trying to do right thing, may be unknowingly (by selling prabhupada books) and hence in some way or other he is going to get mercy from prabhupada and come upto the next level of realisation with time, other then making smart comments and demotivating any one! Sorry if I offended any one…. Hare krishna
» Posted By omdas On Jul 15, 2007 @ 9:54 pm
Very sweet…… This is amazing!!! I love what u said Mahraja… Thank you very much
» Posted By omdas On Jul 9, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
Thanks for sharing your activities there. I appreciate so much what you do there. I hope some day I can come and assist you in what ever way I can. You make me feel that this Krishna Consiousness is so easy to follow and so friendly as well. Many times I see people in my local temple critisizing other’s and seeing only maya in every thing out of ISKCON temples. I was filling a bit of sickness of that attitude but reading your article has really put my spirits high.
Thanks for all and much more,
» Posted By omdas On Jul 1, 2007 @ 9:31 am
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Coming from Hatha Yoga background I am very surprised to see some comments made by some devotees here. I also saw some quotes taken from Shrila Prabhupada’s conversations and quotations from different places. Any ways I will like to make few comments pointing different issues one by one.
Firstly when we take some quotes from Prabhupada which I personally believe is very wrong to do every time without comparing the situation and just copy from some where and paste it in the context here as we have to understand that why did Prabhupada made that comment, to whom & what were the circumstances. This idea came to my mind as I was asking question regarding this debate was will I ever criticize Yoga (any kind of yoga) which has been recommended by Krishna, many saints including Vyasadeva and Patanjali Muni and many acharyas as well, then the answer that came from me was yes I will criticize some one doing yoga if he is not doing it with right understanding or if I know that what he is doing is not going to bring him any near to God. We all know from many examples that Prabhupada gave different advices to different people in different situation! This is just dependent on time, place and circumstance. For examples he said that he does not mind devotees eating meat if they are preaching(sorry I do not have reference from where did he said that but I have read some letter and there is some thing of this sort said by Prabhupada saying himself), so shall we understand that he was saying some thing different? No just he was emphasising how important it is to preach and which is very great in its nature. The main goal of Shrila Prabhupada was to bring every one to the level of pure love to Krishna.
Second question is, is Hatha Yoga really bad for Bhakti? Then we can check in scriptures and some of the most authorative scriptures like Bhagwat Gita and Shrimad Bhagwatam do not say any thing like that, in fact it has been prescribed as a style of Yoga and how one can liberate itself from this body. No doubt in this age of Kali it is very difficult (not impossible) to liberate self from Maya. Again we do use many western and some times even tamasik medicines to keep our self healthy then why not use this sattvic style of keeping our self healthy? Now yes comparing to Bhakti I will agree that Hatha is not superior by to use Hatha Yoga as helping hand is not wrong (I believe it this way; you may not).
Thirdly there have been instances where Prabhupada asked some disciples to use Hatha Yoga as a preaching tool then why not take this whole Hatha Yoga in that sense and appreciate those people who have talent to attract people in there way? And they are at least doing some thing.
Fourthly talking about presentation then yes what we do have to be authentic and not breaking any rules and regulation. Hence let it be Hatha Yoga or Karma Yoga it has to be done under principles and according to the standards. We have seen people breaking rules and regulations even in the name of Bhakti and trying to abuse and manipulate others even in the name of pure Bhakti so if only one type of presentation of our society is perfect then why do such instances happen? It is only human contaminated mind who wants to make sense enjoyment and it can try to do this from any thing and any where.
Fifthly why is no one objecting or questioning those authorities (local temple authorities) to let these kinds of Yoga sessions (as shown in the photos above) happen in there temple. If it was done outside then it is duty of those devotees to fall in such trap. We have to also see when these types of classes were taken and are they done any more of this type by Atma Yoga or any such? If not then we have to just take lesson from this, note the concerned authorities to keep an eye for not letting this happen again and get beyond it, at last all us can make mistakes.
At last I will like to thank all those Yoga teachers who are genuinely trying to present ISKCON in any ways they can. At least they are doing some kind of preaching then nothing.
» Posted By omdas On Jun 9, 2007 @ 1:34 am
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