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Good discussion. Being relatively new, I have had problems with subjective analysis. I do not know if an objective discussion can be had either. For e.g. What are some things that can be done in a rural environment and in an urban environment (if at all) to implement VAD. Let us say support for the brahmacarys or elderly Grihastha couples who are leaning towards Vanaprastha, who have shown dedication to the mission and are willing and ready to serve as preachers and advisors. According to VAD (my understanding), the grihasthas have to support them.
So lets do so… We see over and over again that senior preachers (and I mean devotees who have shown that they are capable preachers) are now working in Gas stations and selling paintings and driving trucks etc to make ends meet. Lets put our money where our mouths are. 30% of all contributions into our society to support the brahmacarys and vanaprasthys (I exclude sanyasis, since at this time I believe they are supported properly).
Seems fanatical? Then give me other examples on what can be implemented? Brahmanas are not supposed to get laxmi for service. So are we supporting that? 20% to the Brahmanas.. the good ones atleast!
Our administrators, the TPs and teams also are not supported, but VAD requires to tax the grihasthas to support them. 30% for them.
So are we willing to put in the 70-80%? Are the devotees on this discussion willing to take that step? Support 1 brahmacary or Vanaprasthy for life per 5 grihasthas. Does that sound feasible?
We have not even started the discussion on Cow utilization, proper agriculture, creating proper engagement for the Vaishya and Sudras within our society..
Apologize, but I want specifics more than philosophies and a committment to follow those.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 03.01.2013 @ 00:22
Hare Krishna Prabhus
Dandavats. Jai Srila Prabhupada
Since the topic of the hospital has come up, I wanted to share the thought process behind it. It is in a lecture by HH Radhanath Swami. I will write as much as my memory serves me.
He mentions that there were several arguements and counter arguements when the hospital project was to be implemented. Several logistical reasons etc. Then he says something interesting. The thing why he gave his approval was because he saw that the doctors wanting the hospital were serious in their endeavor. And he fanned that spark to serve Krishna. Several of these doctors have done wonders after this, preaching in colleges, starting the hospice for devotees in Vrindavan, becoming counselers for several aspiring devotees etc. The end result should be seen. If the doctors were not given that chance, then would they have been inspired to continue in their devotional life as much?
Another way of looking at this is what the doctors would have done if the hospital werent there. They would have had their own practice. I believe that that hospital allowed them to engage their propensities in Sri Krishnas, Srila Prabhupadas and their Gurumaharajs service.
Finally several devotees including Sanyaasis have benefited from the hospital. Another aspect of a growing ISKCON societies needs are being addressed.
Hundreds of books go out through the hospital with the book display prominently displayed at the entrance. Srila Prabhupadas vigraha is the first thing one sees as one enters the hospital.
I think as long as the mood of the devotees serving in the various programs is to preach the glories of Lord Chaitanya, as long as the mood is there, then the mission will move on and progress. If the mood changes to just participate in the well being of society as a humanitarian initiative then there is no need for all this.
Just my thoughts..
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 10.12.2011 @ 00:35
Thank you for sharing this. Its amazing what you and the devotees have done. It seems like a story from the Srimad Bhagvatam.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 23.08.2011 @ 17:22
Good Calculations. However the $10 per Gallon is not sustainable. Also it will work if I have to deliver this, which again has to be added to the cost.
We have farm communities with several acres of land. The ones I have seen dont seem to have 10% of the cows milking at any given time (more like 2-3% if fortunate). Also I presume that some cows will stop breeding eventually and will have to be taken care of.
Also we need oxen.
I think the calculations should include, and more importantly than milk, fuel from Dung as well as vegetables etc that can be grown by proper utilization of the 10 acres of land. So I guess the calculation should be, how many devotee families can survive on 10 acres of land without having to work in an urban area (to protect the cows!).
Also what needs can be fulfilled in such an agrarian community and questions similar to those arise. I am not sure that we can just look at the milk from cows as the returns for taking care of her.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 03.06.2010 @ 22:41
Enlightening Discussions indeed for generations to come.
Practically as I have seen, this is how things have been working atleast in some circles.
Prospective discipe (PD) listens to various lectures by various Gurus (or otherwise). He/she may also ready their diaries, or blogs, or books, or hear of their “exploits” from their preaching missions around the world. Thus association by “vani” takes place probably for greater than 1 year. This is unknown to the Guru.
The PD then approaches the Guru who maybe has not met him/her previously and asks for initiation. Prior to that the disciple may or may not have met other disciples of that Guru, and does not know how to develop a personal relationship. This may have been possible in case the PD is part of a Bhakti Vriksha / Namahatta group etc. or is under the “tutelage” of an ISKCON missionary.
In any case, the PD approaches the Guru being inspired by vani.
The Guru then approaches the leader of the PDs BV/NH group, or the associated TP. This is the way a Guru may find out about the sincerity of the disciple and the services rendered. In some instances, the Guru may even assign some tasks (chant 16 rounds for 3 years, and follow the Reg Principles, and … ). He may assign a “counseler” or “mentor” if such a system exists.
After this dating period, the initiations is then finalized. Till that time I believe both the Guru and dicsiple have the option of going their own way.
I believe a process can be in place to facilitate the internal acceptnace of the Guru by the PD and vice versa. I also believe the Vani plays an important part.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 13.05.2010 @ 17:44
Hare Krishna Prabhus
The next question that arises (and I really dont have sastric quotes for this) is to be able to do the magnitude of service that is required on Janmastami. If due to weakness because of fasting one is not able to do services or go on Sankirtan, what should one do?
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 12.08.2009 @ 21:18
Can be used as a great preaching tool.
It was my understanding that there was some aspects of impersonalism prominent in the Sikh tradition. I am somewhat aware of this in from some understandings from the Radha Swami Satsang which I suppose is an offshoot of Sikhism. Any information there would be very useful.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 16.07.2009 @ 23:31
Hare Krishna Mother
Is there any chance that I can get a copy of your presentation? firstname.lastname@example.org. I am from Dallas, TX.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 12.06.2009 @ 18:38
This is Great. When we tried this in Dallas, atleast with the congregation motel owners there was not much enthusiasm. The primary concern was (is) that business would go down if it is found that we are promoting another religion.
There were 2 suggestion that came out of this discussion
1. To put books like “Science of Self Realization” or “Higher Taste” or “Perfection of Yoga”, books which may not be associated with a particular religion
2. To put Shastra Daan boxes (I think they are called “Smart boxes” now) at the motels.
But hopefully if this works out and a standard is set, then this could definitely encourage and spawn interest in just getting the Gitas out.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 13.04.2009 @ 15:11
Is there any way of doing an audio/video recording for anyone not attending.
Comment Posted By rasarajdas On 05.01.2009 @ 23:44