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Which Brahma are you?

Srila Prabhupada, the foremost exponent of the Krishna consciousness movement explains that Jesus is Krishna’s representative, son of God, and spiritual master.

Below are excerpts from Srila Prabhupada’s books, lectures, and conversations about Jesus Christ and his relationship with Krsna.

“If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, “Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus,” then he has no knowledge. And if one says, “Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna”, then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you’ll understand Krishna too” (Srila Prabhupada – Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus – Ohio)

As Lord Jesus Christ said, we should hate the sin, not the sinner. That is a very nice statement, because the sinner is under illusion. He is mad. If we hate him, how can we deliver him? Therefore, those who are advanced devotees, who are really servants of God, do not hate anyone. When Lord Jesus Christ was being crucified, he said, “My God, forgive them. They know not what they do.” This is the proper attitude of an advanced devotee. He understands that the conditioned souls cannot be hated, because they have become mad due to their materialistic way of thinking. In this Krsna consciousness movement, there is no question of hating anyone. Everyone is welcomed to come and chant Hare Krsna, take krsna-prasada, listen to the philosophy of Bhagavad-gita, and try to rectify material, conditioned life. This is the essential program of Krsna consciousness.
(Path of Perfection Chapter 3: Learning How to See God)

Christian, Muhammadan, Hindu-it doesn’t matter. If he is simply speaking on behalf of God, he is a guru. Lord Jesus Christ, for instance. He canvassed people, saying, “Just try to love God.” Anyone-it doesn’t matter who-be he Hindu, Muslim, or Christian, is a guru if he convinces people to love God. That is the test. The guru never says, “I am God,” or “I will make you God.” The real guru says, “I am a servant of God, and I will make you a servant of God also.” It doesn’t matter how the guru is dressed. “Whoever can impart knowledge about Krsna is a spiritual master.” A genuine spiritual master simply tries to get people to become devotees of Krsna, or God. He has no other business.
(Sci Self Realization Chapter 2)

» Posted By sam On Jan 19, 2008 @ 10:49 pm

For further reference, I thought I would try to find the context that goes with the original passage. (

In Luke 12:35-40 Jesus tells his disciples what is expected of faithful servants. Peter, one of prominent disciplines in the group asks for clarification.

Luke 12:41-48

[41] Peter asked, “Lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?”

[42] The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? [43] It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. [44] I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. [45] But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. [46] The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.

[47] “That servant who knows his master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. [48] But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

» Posted By sam On Jan 19, 2008 @ 10:39 pm

The “which Brahma?” story is certainly a personal favorite. The points about humility, forgiveness, and softness of heart are well taken ….

Coming from a “Christ” tradition the passage “to those who much has been given, much is requested” got me thinking. From what I understand, the idea is that one must live up to the blessing he has mercifully received. For example, one who becomes a priest, or is awarded sanyas, would certainly be considered one to whom much has been given, and one from whom much is expected.

In the Parable of the “Talents”, which was a Jewish currency and happens to be an interesting homophone, Jesus relates the story of three servants who are given three different tasks / budgets before their master takes his leave to conduct business for a certain period of time … Upon his return he asks his servants to come to him. The one who was awarded 5 talents, has done good work and earned an additional 5 coins, the second who received 3 coins, has also doubled his work, and now has 6 … The third servant however, who was given a single coin, approaches his master meekly saying, “Lord, a few months ago, I took that coin you had entrusted to me, and knowing that you are a demanding master, what I did is, I took it, and buried it, so as to keep it safe, and not lose it until your return.”

To this, the master replies something along the lines: “In my absence you have proven yourself a poor and lazy servant. You knew that I would harvest where I did not plant and gather where I did not scatter seed? Should you not then have at least put my money in the bank so that I could have got it back with interest on my return? Now then! Take the talent from him and give it to the one with ten. For to everyone who has, more will be given and he will grow rich; but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. And throw this useless servant into the darkness outside, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.” (Matthew 25, 14-30)

My understanding is that the coins, or talents, can be likened to faith and devotion – a spiritual wealth of sorts … And as we are told, although it may come across as harsh, the consequence of not responding to our eternal duty is unenviable suffering in the lower planets and the material world.

For reference sake, Luc 19, 11-27 presents a slightly different variation of the same story.

» Posted By sam On Jan 19, 2008 @ 10:19 pm

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