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Construction in Progress at ISKCON Salem, Tamil Nadu

Amazing project, dear Gokul Chandra Prabhu. I’m aspiring to go and see you there and lift some bricks, y/s Sankirtan dasa

Comment Posted By sankirtana.lok On 28.06.2007 @ 12:55

The "Savior-Guru" syndrome

Thank you Bhakta Alex for sharing for your insight,
y/s Sankirtana dasa

Comment Posted By sankirtana.lok On 13.06.2007 @ 06:48

Dear Murali Prabhu,
Thank you for sharing your understanding. Your point is well taken. Maybe we could investigate to what we exactly fully surrender to. It seems to me that service and surrender to Guru and Krishna are already clearly defined. The devotee who acts as Guru and who is purely motivated will not ask the disciple to go outside the parameter of the process. “To practice the regulative principles of bhakti-yoga one should, under the guidance of an expert spiritual master, follow certain principles: one should rise early in the morning, take bath, enter the temple and offer prayers and chant Hare Krishna, then collect flowers to offer to the Deity, cook foodstuffs to offer to the Deity, take prasadam, and so on. There are various rules and regulations which one should follow. And one should constantly hear Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam from pure devotees. This practice can help anyone rise to the level of love of God, and then he is sure of his progress into the spiritual kingdom of God. This practice of bhakti-yoga, under the rules and regulations, with the direction of a spiritual master, will surely bring one to the stage of love of God. (Bg 12.9)
I do not find any difficulties with the level of advancement of the initiator Guru. We are well taken care of by the practise of the scientific process of sadhana bhakti and as long our Guru(s) do not divert as into some other process we are assured of success by their’’s and Lord Krishna’s mercy. Don’t you think so?
Bhakta Alex writes in his extensive and interresting comment…”My feeling is that the truly pure person remains pure, remains steady. They consistently speak, write and behave in a way that I’ll be able to resonate with at a very deep level.” So if our leaders are focused in their own persue of spiritual perfection and we follow them, where is the problem? We definitely are all well guided by the Uttamadhikari, Srila Prabhupada.

Comment Posted By sankirtana.lok On 13.06.2007 @ 06:45

Thank you all for your comments. I am glad to read how Ekendra Prabhu sees the need of education to prevent the continuation of misunderstandings. Kesava Krishna Prabhu’s advise is well taken. Murali Prabhu seems to say that he does not think that sadhana is the key element for progress. The Guru’s position seems more important. It makes me think: We see amongst Srila Prabhupada’s disciples a variety of levels of advancement, many even left. And we see amongst his disciples how they have a variety of levels of disciples, some are more and some less advanced. One can explain this by the logic of proper sadhana and attitude to the process. I do not see how one can explain it by the elevated position of Guru. To quote the NOI: Advancement in KC depends on the attitude of the follower (Preface).

Comment Posted By sankirtana.lok On 11.06.2007 @ 14:28

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