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Double-voice amplification kirtans in Iskcon Mayapur

Hare Krsna,

My humble obeisances.

I do not understand Sikhi Mahiti prabhu’s points.

First of all, quoting Sivarama Swami is fine, but I can easily quote another sadhu who will disagree with Sivaram Swami. Quoting the siksastakam as “proof” for the category of “shastra” is begging the question, because the this very verse is what the discussion is centered around in the 1st place. And third, Bhaktivinoda Thakura’s statement does not rule out the plethora of other statements by our acharyas to the effect that attentive hearing and chanting applies to kirtan as much as it does to japa.

Finally, Sikhi Mahiti prabhu’s comment about Prabhupada saying that just trying to please Krishna is the only requirement for attracting “karmis” to our kirtans may be somewhat irrelevant. We are not speaking here about attracting non-devotees to our kirtans; we are speaking about kirtan standards for practicing devotees in Iskcon centers.

It almost seems as though Sikhi Mahiti prabhu is saying that it’s perfectly okay for devotees to completely give up the dynamic of lead-singer/responders. Is he saying that everyone can sing together, all at once, completely blurring the distinction between the lead-singer and the responders……. because “there is no hard and fast rules” ?

Am I interpreting his words incorrectly? If I am, I apologize.

As far as my limited knowledge is concerned, there is, and there always will be, this dynamic lead-singer/responders, as Sita Prabhu aptly refers us to the C.C verse:

“Svarūpa Dāmodara was chosen as *the leader* [singular] of the first party and was given *five assistants to respond* [plural] to his chanting.”
(Note: it does not say, “[…] to respond to *their* chanting.” There was indeed one, and only one, lead-singer.)

Once we agree that there is no question of blurring the lines between the lead-singer and the responders, we then come back to the original issue: can two amplified voices work in a kirtan? Do two amplified voices assist and embellish the dynamic of leader/responders? Or do they rather play down this subtle but crucial dynamic?

» Posted By servantofservant On May 7, 2011 @ 3:57 pm

I think that the double-voice amplification kirtan style is not an ‘option.’ That the devotees do it occasionally in Atlanta and that Radhanatha Swami did it at least once may not be a good enough reason to legitimize it as a bona-fide option according to personal taste. This style of kirtan fundamentally opposes the very foundation of kirtan: attentive hearing and chanting. No?

» Posted By servantofservant On Apr 22, 2011 @ 1:35 pm

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