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I request that everyone read the Feb 14, 1977 Varnashrama Conversation. Prabhupada made it a priority to establish Varna Ashram Dharma (VAD) in ISKCON to stop the degradation of ISKCON into a sahajiya movement.

In fact Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saravati Thakur(BST) had to import VAD from the Sri Sampradaya to purify the Gaudiya Sampradaya. One of BST’s main missions–therefore Srila Prabhupada’s mission, therefore our mission–is to establish Daiva Varnashrama along with pure chanting of the holy name.

It would be better that we all thoroughly investigate what Srila Prabhupada wanted and why before attempting social engineering that Srila Prabhupada did not introduce. Srila Prabhupada did not make women TPs or GBCs and although he engaged Western women disciples as preachers (mostly in book distribution) his books clearly define the natural role of women as mothers and chaste wives. He spoke strongly against having women as leaders. As he himself wanted the then Prime Minister of India to step down!

He wanted her son to be the leader and Srila Prabhupad would be his Guru, thereby setting the perfect system up.

Yogesvara: Here’s a problem. The women today want the same rights as men.

How can they be satisfied?

Prabhupada: Everything will be satisfied. Just like our women, Krsna conscious, they are working. They don’t want equal rights with men. It is due to Krsna consciousness. They are cleansing the temple, they are cooking very nicely. They are satisfied. They never say that “I have to go to Japan for preaching like Prabhupada.” They never say. This is artificial. So Krsna consciousness means work in his constitutional position. The women, men, when they remain in their constitutional position, there will be no artificial (indistinct)

Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk — May 27, 1974, Rome

» Posted By siddhakrishnadas On Apr 17, 2011 @ 12:32 pm

I’m not against anyone. And neither is this aimed at anyone in particular. But just adding to the current discussion.

In the Gita 3rd chapter we find that Lord Krsna instructs Arjuna that even
if a person like Maharaja Janaka became liberated they still perform their
prescribed duty just as an example to teach others, and in fact Lord Krsna
says that the same applies to Him.

Lord Caitanya, the yuga avatara, Whose mission we are supposed to be
carrying out despite having said to Ramananda Raya “kiba vipra….” still
Lord Caitanya was an ideal sannyasi according to Daiva VAD the same can be
said of all our acaryas especially BSST and Srila Prabhupada. Who could be
more mature, renounced and of ideal behavior than them? Still they observed
their Daiva VAD prescribed duties as an example for us.

Once Srila Prabhupada was in his room when his sister Pisima came to see
him, his body guard wanted to leave them alone to discuss but SP told him
not to go, later SP said you should not leave me alone with a woman. They
were both in their late 70s, blood relatives and disciples of BSST and pure
devotees still SP set the perfect example of a sannyasi.

So our female devotees even if they are mahabhagavatas like Janakaraja
should also set the example and perform their prescribed duties according to
Stri-dharma. Bhakti Vinoda Thakur said that BSST was sent by LC to establish two things:
Daiva Varnashrama Dharma and pure chanting of the Holy Name. Both are
interdependent. When Daiva VAD stopped being followed in Bengal it gave rise
to many apasampradayas and opened the gate to sahajayism, IMHO.

» Posted By siddhakrishnadas On Apr 14, 2011 @ 5:50 am

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