{"id":11158,"date":"2013-01-02T06:02:14","date_gmt":"2013-01-02T05:02:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/?p=11158"},"modified":"2013-01-02T06:02:14","modified_gmt":"2013-01-02T05:02:14","slug":"why-not-to-hear-from-professional-bhagavatam-reciters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/?p=11158","title":{"rendered":"Why not to hear from professional Bhagavatam reciters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/dandavats.com\/wp-content\/uploads2\/232013-01-02-05-5923.jpg\" width=\"600\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>By Gaurachandra Das<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t\t\tSuch speakers charge money from the organizers and innocent devotees. They have spoiled the whole essence of Bhagavat Dharma by such cheap propaganda. When Sukadeva Goswami spoke this divine message to Pariksit Maharaj and assembled sages, no money was charged. When Suta Goswami repeated it to Saunak rishi and sages no money was charged. But the professional reciters have spoiled the whole show and charm by their lustful agendas and charging lakhs of rupees in name of Bhagavatam hearing. Such a proposal is a farce and no genuine satsanga can emanate from such kaitava-dharma(cheating religion).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li value=\"2\">\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t\t\tA number of professional Bhagavatam reciters(being karma-kanda followers internally) indirecty proclaim that Krishna and other demigods as Brahma, Devi, Rudra are on equal standing and any of them can be heard and glorified. This is an offence and ignorant understanding as the pure followers of Vaishnav culture know and preach against. Srila Sanatana Goswami has taught in Hari Bhakti Vilasa :<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\tYas tu narayanam devam brahma rudradi daivataih<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\tSamatvenaiva vikseta sa pasandi bhaved dhruvam<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\tOne who thinks the great demigods such as Brahma and Siva are equal to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Narayana , is a pasandi. (HBV 1.17)<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\tTo hear Krishna-katha from such a pasandi is to fool one&rsquo;s own self.<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li value=\"3\">\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t\t\tThirdly such professiona reciters are mostly not in a parampara system or bonafide disciplic succession. As known there are four disciplic successions originating from Brahma, Rudra, Sri (Laksmi) and Kumaras. These professional reciters have generally memorized details from books after a sansrit shastri degree and they don&rsquo;t follow any authentic disciplic line. According to the Padma Pur\u0101\u1e47a, one of the eighteen main Pur\u0101\u1e47as,the verse says:<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\" style=\"margin-left:1.27cm;\">\n\t\t\tsamprad\u0101yavih\u012bn\u0101 ye mantr\u0101ste ni\u1e63phal\u0101 mat\u0101\u1e25| ata\u1e25 kalau bhavi\u015byanti catv\u0101ra\u1e25 samprad\u0101yina\u1e25|| \u015ar\u012b-brahm\u0101-rudra-sanak\u0101 vai\u1e63\u1e47av\u0101 k\u1e63itip\u0101van\u0101\u1e25| catv\u0101raste kalau bh\u0101vya hyutkale puru\u1e63ottam\u0101t|| r\u0101m\u0101nuja\u1e43 \u015br\u012b svicakre madhv\u0101carya\u1e43 caturmukha\u1e25| \u015br\u012bvi\u1e63\u1e47usv\u0101mina\u1e43 rudro nimb\u0101ditya\u1e43 catu\u1e25san\u0101\u1e25||[1]\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\tTranslation&nbsp;:All mantras which have not been given (to disciples) in an authorised Samprad\u0101ya are fruitless. Therefore, in Kali Yuga, there will be four bona-fide Samprad\u0101yas. Their names are : inaugurated by \u015ar\u012b Dev\u012b and known as the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=%C5%9Ar%C4%AB_Samprad%C4%81ya&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\">\u015ar\u012b Samprad\u0101ya<\/a>, Lord Brahm\u0101 and known as the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Brahma_Sampradaya\">Brahma Sampradaya<\/a>,Lord Rudra and known as the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rudra_Sampradaya\">Rudra Sampradaya<\/a>; and the Four Kum\u0101ras and known as <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Sanak%C4%81di_Samprad%C4%81ya&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\">Sanak\u0101di Samprad\u0101ya<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nimbarka_Sampradaya\">Nimbarka Sampradaya<\/a>. \u015ar\u012b Dev\u012b(lakshmi) made <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ramanujacharya\">Ramanujacharya<\/a> the head of that lineage. So too Lord Brahm\u0101 appointed <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Madhvacharya\">Madhvacharya<\/a>, Lord Rudra appointed <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Vi%E1%B9%A3%E1%B9%87usv%C4%81m%C4%AB&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1\">Vi\u1e63\u1e47usv\u0101m\u012b<\/a> and the four Kumaras chose <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nimbarka\">Nimbarka<\/a> (an epithet for \u015ar\u012b Nimb\u0101rk\u0101c\u0101rya).<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li value=\"4\">\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t\t\tFourthly, the professional Bhagavatam reciters have the tendency to jump to the pastimes of Radha and Krishna without having the qualification to discuss such esoteric pastimes. According to Srila Jiva Goswami, such pastimes can be discussed and heard only among those men who have perfectly entered the culture of sense control (dhira). If ordinary men who have not controlled the anarthas, if they delve into such discussions, they are lost in their senses . This is the practical position of professional reciters and one who hears Hari katha from such men also becomes slave of his senses. Genuine Krishna-bhakti is far away from such a pseudo arrangement.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li value=\"5\">\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t\t\tMost importantly, Srila Prabhupada has taught that to hear Hari katha and Holy Name from Avaishnava (servant of maya) is liking drinking milk touched by the serpant. It is indeed detrimental to one&rsquo;s spiritual health. Rather than gaining devotion one will loose devotion from such hearing. Srila Sanatana Goswami has mentioned the same thing in Hari Bhakti Vilasa :<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\" style=\"margin-left:1.27cm;\">\n\t\t\tAvaisnava &ndash;mukhodgirnam putam hari-kathamrtam<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\" style=\"margin-left:1.27cm;\">\n\t\t\tSravanam naiva kartavyam sarpocchistam yatha payah.<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t&ldquo; One should not hear about Krishna from a non-Vaishnava. Milk touched by the lips of a serpant has poisionous effects; similarly, talks about Krishna given by a non-Vaishnava are aso poisonous.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\tSo, a Vaishnava devotee must carefully avoid hearing and becoming part of such a mockery in the name of Srimad Bhagavatam. Caitanya Mahaprabhu says &ndash; &ldquo; Asat sanga tyaga ei Vaishnav acara&rdquo;, &#8211; To avoid non-Vaishnav association is the attitude of Vaishnav devotee of Sri Krishna.<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\" style=\"margin-left:1.27cm;\">\n\t\t\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t6. Another significant thing is that Bhagavat knowledge cannot be finished in seven days. The principle is &ndash; Nityam Bhagavat sevaya (Bhagavatam 1.2.18), to do Bhagavat seva (two way through Grantha-book Bhavagat and the service of Devotee Bhagavat) &#8211; daily as taught by Srimad Bhagavatam itself. Of course, Hari katha can be done in any format but the foolish opinion of professional reciters that hearing seven days for three hours only is the culture of Bhagavat hearing and that Pariksit Maharaj heard in this way from Sukadeva Goswami is fully wrong and insane. First of all there are 18000 shlokas in Srimad Bhagavatam which cannot be finished in this way and as mentioned in Bhagavatam itself the sages heard this message for seven days continuousy, without eating and sleeping, for the authentic source of Sukadeva Goswami and Suta Goswami twenty-four hours daily. Can any professional reciter or hearer match this standard. That is impossible, that&rsquo;s why Bhagavatam itself has proclaimed &ldquo;Nityam Bhagavat sevaya&rdquo; (serve the Bhagavat two-fold daily). Also Srila Prabhupada (A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami) mentions each shloka of Srimad Bhagavatam can be explained for for as long as three months time. Even a lifetime is less to assimilate the complete knowledge of Srimad Bhagavatam. Amidst such circumstances the professional speaking of Bhagavatam for only seven days is a empty bottled show of formality and whim.<\/p>\n<p align=\"JUSTIFY\">\n\t\t\t7. Finally such a program is organized by ignorant and materially attached men without perfect knowledge of Bhagavat Gita and Krishna bhakti , to serve often their lusty agendas and purposes. Nobody can become a proper devotee of Sri Krishna by such professional recitation and hearing. This must be be the standard as taught by previous Acaryas and it must be followed and preached as it is in society. Thus the work of &ldquo;professional&rdquo; Bhagavatam reciters must be condemned.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/dandavats.com\/wp-content\/uploads2\/122013-01-02-06-0112.jpg\"\/><strong>By Gaurachandra Das<\/strong><\/p>\n<p> When Sukadeva Goswami  spoke this  divine message to Pariksit Maharaj and assembled sages, no money was charged. 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