{"id":112471,"date":"2024-03-29T10:59:28","date_gmt":"2024-03-29T09:59:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/?p=112471"},"modified":"2024-03-29T12:28:03","modified_gmt":"2024-03-29T11:28:03","slug":"initial-response-to-sacs-paper-brahma-gayatri-mantra-in-iskcon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/?p=112471","title":{"rendered":"Initial Response to SAC\u2019s Paper \u2018Brahma-gayatri mantra in ISKCON\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By Shyamasundara D\u00e4sa ACBSP, Jyoti\u00f1\u00e9<br \/>\nShyamasundara1976@gmail.com<br \/>\nOn behalf of the \u00c7\u00e4stra-cak\u00f1u\u00f9-pari\u00f1at<br \/>\nCopyright \u00a9 2024<\/p>\n<p>Abstract<\/p>\n<p>In K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a\u2019s Vedic civilization, upanayana \u2014 the investiture with the sacred thread and brahma-g\u0101yatr\u012b \u2014 is exclusively conferred upon qualified men, with women and \u015b\u016bdras being excluded. In the early days, \u015ar\u012bla Prabhup\u0101da, to pacify a few irate female disciples who had revolted because of not getting second initiation, started the practice of  granting  brahma-g\u0101yatr\u012b to his female disciples but without the sacred thread, implying they were not genuine br\u0101hma\u1e47as. As time passed and senior devotees gained deeper knowledge of  K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a\u2019s Vedic culture they realized what had happened. Some who had by now become initiating gurus reverted to K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a\u2019s original standard and ceased giving their female disciples brahma-g\u0101yatr\u012b at the time of second initiation and became more stringent with male disciples, reserving it only for those displaying brahminical tendencies. This shift challenged those advocating for Female Diksa Gurus in ISKCON and other feminist initiatives. Consequently, the GBC approached SAC for guidance on this matter and SAC provided \u0101pasiddh\u0101ntik and heterodox arguments to sanction brahma-g\u0101yatr\u012b for women and unqualified men. <\/p>\n<p>This essay serves as an initial response to SAC\u2019s paper. Here, we highlight that SAC concocted its method of textual interpretation (that yields predetermined results) while disregarding K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a\u2019s original method \u2014 M\u012bm\u0101\u1e41s\u0101. We emphasize the importance of understanding the guru\u2019s \u201cmano- &#8216;bh\u012b\u1e63\u1e6da\u1e41\u201d (mind\u2019s desire) when interpreting his actions, which are ultimately rooted in \u015b\u0101stra. SAC misunderstands our d\u012bk\u1e63\u0101 process. Since brahma-g\u0101yatr\u012b is part of our d\u012bk\u1e63\u0101 protocol we must first understand how our system of d\u012bk\u1e63\u0101 works.Thus we analyze the initiation framework in our samprad\u0101ya \u2014 which contains elements of Bh\u0101gavata, Pa\u00f1car\u0101trika, and Vaidika traditions. Next we show that SAC ignored the fundamental question on which everything hinges \u2014 Why did \u015ar\u012bla Bhaktisiddh\u0101nta Sarasvat\u012b \u1e6ch\u0101kura introduce upanayana? And, show that after answering this question SAC\u2019s whole argument collapses. We also discuss the GBC\u2019s flawed resolutions which they based on SAC\u2019s non-peer reviewed paper.<\/p>\n<p>you can download the whole from this link:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/brahma-gayatri-part-1-final\">https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/brahma-gayatri-part-1-final<\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you prefer to read a version formatted for smart-phone download from this link.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/brahma-gayatri-part-1-mobile_20240327\">https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/brahma-gayatri-part-1-mobile_20240327 <\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u0938\u094d\u092e\u093e\u0930\u094d\u091f \u092b\u094b\u0928 \u0915\u0947 \u0932\u093f\u090f \u0939\u093f\u0902\u0926\u0940 \u0938\u0902\u0938\u094d\u0915\u0930\u0923 \u0907\u0938 \u0932\u093f\u0902\u0915 \u0938\u0947<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/1-mobile_20240327\/page\/3\/mode\/2up\">https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/1-mobile_20240327\/page\/3\/mode\/2up<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>\u0915\u0902\u092a\u094d\u092f\u0942\u091f\u0930 \u0915\u0947 \u0932\u093f\u090f \u0939\u093f\u0902\u0926\u0940 \u0938\u0902\u0938\u094d\u0915\u0930\u0923 \u0907\u0938 \u0932\u093f\u0902\u0915 \u0938\u0947\u0964<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/1-pc_20240327\">https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/1-pc_20240327<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Shyamasundara D\u00e4sa ACBSP, Jyoti\u00f1\u00e9 Shyamasundara1976@gmail.com On behalf of the \u00c7\u00e4stra-cak\u00f1u\u00f9-pari\u00f1at Copyright \u00a9 2024 Abstract In K\u1e5b\u1e63\u1e47a\u2019s Vedic civilization, upanayana \u2014 the investiture with the sacred thread and brahma-g\u0101yatr\u012b \u2014 is exclusively conferred upon qualified men, with women and \u015b\u016bdras being excluded. In the early days, \u015ar\u012bla Prabhup\u0101da, to pacify a few irate female disciples<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[93],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-112471","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog-thoughts"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/112471","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=112471"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/112471\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":112472,"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/112471\/revisions\/112472"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=112471"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=112471"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=112471"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}