http:\/\/www.dandavats.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Beatles-Channel-Interview-Revised-1-12-22.mp3<\/a><\/audio>\nShyamasundar dasa<\/strong><\/p>\nSiriusXM Fab Fourum Interview<\/strong><\/p>\nJanuary 12, 2022<\/strong><\/p>\nDennis Elsas:<\/strong> It is the Beatles Fab Fourum. It\u2019s Tom, it\u2019s Dennis, and it\u2019s Bill. And our next guest…well, I love the way that we got our next guest. It was because of one of our listeners, and specifically Jeanne Clausen. Jeanne Clausen, I don\u2019t know exactly where you are writing to us from, but she wrote just a couple of weeks ago and said, \u201cI listen to the Fab Fourum show when I can. I\u2019m a lifelong fan. I saw them play twice when they came to Detroit in \u201964 and \u201966. I was listening to your show on December 1st talking about the new Get Back<\/em> documentary, Peter Jackson\u2019s. And on your show I heard your question, \u2018What is that Hare Krishna guy doing there sitting in the corner?\u2019 So I thought I\u2019d send you the answer to that question.\u201d And she not only knows him, she also has been with him and listened to the \u201cHare Krishna Mantra\u201d when she was in Detroit. And the fact that she knows him, that got everybody excited, specifically, who else, our own Tom Frangione. And Tom, you have Jeanne to thank, and take it from there.<\/p>\nTom Frangione:<\/strong> Well, Jeanne, thank you up front. And yes, for those of you who may not have caught us yet, we do a show here on the Beatles Channel called Apple Jam that I do with David Fricke once a month, and then it repeats throughout the month and, of course, on the SXM app. And one of the records we\u2019ve spotlighted a couple times is an album that George produced for Apple by The Radha Krishna Temple. So it definitely got my attention very, very quickly. And to bring our next guest on, I want to play you a little bit of this. It\u2019s a record that George not only produced but played the harmonium and guitar on, and this one actually became a big, big hit in England and they went on to play it on Top of the Pops<\/em>. So let\u2019s hear a little bit of the \u201cHare Krishna Mantra\u201d on Apple, Jackie.<\/p>\n[clip of \u201cHare Krishna Mantra\u201d]\nShyamasundar, Hare Krishna!<\/p>\n
Shyamasundar:<\/strong> Hare Krishna! Hare Krishna!<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Yes, it\u2019s a delight to have you with us here on the Fab Fourum, on the Beatles Channel SiriusXM 18. We\u2019re delighted to have you here. A lot of our listeners, their first exposure to you in terms of the Beatles backstory may be this most recent Get Back<\/em> documentary. You\u2019re one of the very first people along with the Beatles themselves to be introduced by name on the screen. You\u2019re there at the very start, Day 1. How do you get invited to Twickenham Studios to sit in with the Beatles?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Yeah, well, that\u2019s a good question. I\u2019m rather surprised I\u2019m in there at all, what to speak of spotlighted. I guess by including me at the outset, Peter Jackson\u2019s trying to illustrate the spiritual crossroads that this Get Back<\/em> film so amazingly portrays.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Yeah.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> By early 1969, the Beatles had achieved almost godlike status in the world like no four persons ever had or maybe ever will. And like millions of us youngsters in the emerging psychedelic days, these guys were searching and they were trying to understand the meaning of it all.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Yeah.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Like \u201cWhy me, Lord? Who am I? What\u2019s the purpose of life? Where am I going?\u201d And by chance or fate, just one year before that in February of \u201968 the Beatles had gone to India, where ancient answers to these questions seemed to attract them, and it clicked. It clicked with them, yes. And ancient India has these highly evolved answers to existential questions like how to get back where I once belonged.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Wow!<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> So seeing myself and my name 50 years later in Peter Jackson\u2019s film, I have to see myself as just some kind of instrument maybe. Like in the divine plan, there are no accidents. To be right there on the set with daffodils and words of wisdom, a fly on the wall really. And just maybe to plant a seed for the flowering that followed.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> There you go. I\u2019m going to want to talk to you more about the music that you created at Apple. But first, my compadre, Bill Flanagan, wants to chat with you a little bit more about your background. So I\u2019m going to turn it over to Bill, and I\u2019ll be back at you in just a couple minutes.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> OK.<\/p>\nBill Flanagan:<\/strong> Shyamasundar, it\u2019s great to meet you, it\u2019s great to have you on the show. Now, George invited you to the Let It Be sessions as kind of a spiritual advisor, and I wonder what advice did you give him about what you observed in those sessions?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Well, I had only met George just two weeks before this Twickenham thing.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Which is remarkable.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Just two weeks before at the Apple Records Christmas party on Savile Row in December 1968. Some of my San Francisco friends from the Haight-Ashbury had come over to London, guys like Ken Kesey and Peter Coyote and Rock Scully, manager of the Grateful Dead, who was my college roommate.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Really!<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Sweet William from the Hell\u2019s Angels. These guys were staying at our place in Covent Garden, and they were invited to the Apple headquarters on Savile Row for the Christmas party \u201968. So I tagged along, and there I met George. And we had an incredible maybe 15 or 20-minute discussion, and we clicked. I went out to his home in Esher the next day. We spent the day talking about Krishna like ancient friends. And then lo and behold, about two weeks later George rings me up and says, \u201cPlease come down here to Twickenham Studios. I want you to explain Krishna consciousness to the boys.\u201d<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Well, this is absolutely remarkable, and you must have felt like your mission to England was blessed. The fact that as a kid coming from San Francisco in what was then very unusual garb, the Krishna movement was new in this manifestation, to suddenly make it to the Beatles. And I didn\u2019t know you came in with Ken Kesey and Rock Scully and the Hell\u2019s Angels because I believe George was in the process of ejecting them from Apple.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Well, there was an incident, yeah. But George saw me over there in the corner and ran over to me and ignored everyone else in the room while he found out about Krishna.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Incredible! Now, Hare Krishna is a different interpretation of Hinduism than exactly what Maharishi Mahesh Yogi practiced but, of course, it comes from and flows to the same source. And I wonder…one of the impressions I got from watching the Get Back<\/em> film was that George was hurt by the other Beatles\u2019 rejection of Maharishi. Do you think he was looking for a different iteration of the Hindu faith?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know about that so much. And there\u2019s a lot of talk about Maharishi this and that. I don\u2019t believe that that really played a factor. They were all searching. And George had really liked Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, as a figure, and he wanted to find out more about Krishna. All kinds of undertones and things were going on at the same time.<\/p>\nBut basically at the studio, this happened on that set that very first day, the band broke for lunch and George grabs me and says, \u201cCome with us. I want you to meet the boys and tell them about Krishna.\u201d So just the five of us sat in the lunchroom, and I was kind of in the center and the other four at the corners. You can read the full discussion in Volume 1 of my books, Chasing Rhinos with the Swami<\/em>. Maybe we can talk more about that later.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Oh, sure, Chasing Rhinos with the Swami<\/em>.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> They asked me questions like \u201cWho is God?\u201d and \u201cWhat is the purpose of life?\u201d and \u201cWhere do we go from here?\u201d These essential questions of the soul got asked, these incredible questions, for about two hours. And somehow or other Krishna gave me the tongue to answer. How else do you bear the intense scrutiny from the world\u2019s most famous men? Anyway, so the call came, \u201cBack on the set everyone.\u201d We went to the door and John says to me, \u201cMe and Yoko are getting a new place out in Ascot. Plenty of room out there, but it\u2019s a bit run down. You guys need a place to live. Do you think you guys could come out and stay with us there and help fix the place up?\u201d<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Wow!<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> So later in August a bunch of us, about 30 Krishna devotees and my spiritual master, Bhaktivedanta Swami, the 30 of us and Prabhupada, we did move out to John\u2019s Tittenhurst estate, Berkshire, and we lived there with John and Yoko until late in October that year when our new temple was ready in central London. So that\u2019s what happened on that day.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> It\u2019s fascinating that John always seemed to sway between being the believer and being the skeptic, between wanting to believe and the kind of cynical Liverpool guy who dismissed it. Did you see that, him going through those changes at the time?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Say again, did I see him going through…<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Did you see him kind of going back and forth between \u201cImagine there\u2019s no heaven\u201d and wanting to believe, between God as a concept by which we measure our pain and the part of him that would invite you all to come live in his house?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Yes, he was searching desperately for solutions to where they were in the world and that rocketship they were riding. But he was also very cautious in accepting beliefs. He wanted to see us up close and see how we acted and what we did in our daily lives. That was very important to him. He observed us for several months. But, of course, other things were going on in his life at that time too. I don\u2019t want to get into too much about that, the whole thing with instant karma and all that. It was also dragging him…John was dragged from two directions at the same time.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Yeah, that\u2019s for sure. It made it tough for him to get through life, but he certainly created some brilliant art out of it. I do have to ask as someone who was kind of with George at the Let It Be sessions, I assume you were also with George during the days when he walked out. Could you talk to us a little bit about what you might have said to him then or what he might have been looking for?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> OK. He had some songs he wanted to play the boys like the \u201cI, Me, Mine\u201d song that did wind up, I think, on the final album. And the others were kind of making fun of him. I don\u2019t know. I had only known George for about two weeks. There were all kinds of undercurrents going on that I couldn\u2019t read. But yes, George did walk out and then reconciled again, which I think was an important lesson for the whole world to see, that we can resolve everything.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Yeah. Of course, you remained friends with George for the rest of his life. I know in 1996 you made a pilgrimage together to India to the holy cities. What in George stayed the same from the time you met him in 1968 until the end of his life, and what had changed in him?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Well, George…<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> It\u2019s an essay question, I know.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Well…<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> You know, Shyamasundar, I don\u2019t want to put you on the spot. That\u2019s a big question about someone who you were very close with for a very long time. Let me throw it back to Tom, and we can talk about some music.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Yeah. So, Shyamasundar, you embrace Krishna here in America, you take the trip to London to try and get the message spread, and you and your wife form a band when you get to London, The Radha Krishna Temple, and started performing around London. Now, you guys originally submitted a demo tape to Apple and it wasn\u2019t accepted, right? What happened there, because we\u2019re going to get to the good part of the story where then George offers you the good chance and great fortune to record there. But originally you guys submitted a demo tape to Peter Asher, right?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Yeah. I guess I should backtrack just a bit there. I was in jail in late 1967 on an old drug dealing charge, and I got the idea in my head, \u201cKrishna, if you get me out of here, I am going to London to tell the Beatles about You.\u201d<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Wow, that\u2019s huge!<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> So a month later I was out and I proposed to the Swami, Bhaktivedanta Swami, my spiritual master, and to my best Krishna friends that we go to England. And we got the green light from the Swami, and by the first of September 1968 we were in London. There were six of us and my little 3-month-old daughter, Saraswati. We didn\u2019t have any money and we didn\u2019t know anyone in the UK, but we were kind of riding Krishna\u2019s inconceivable plan. And three months later we were friends with the Beatles.<\/p>\nWe knew that the only way we could attract the Beatles\u2019 attention was if we were fellow musicians. So luckily Mike Grant, now Mukunda dasa, and Joanie, you just heard her voice on the \u201cHare Krishna Mantra,\u201d Yamuna dasi, they were both accomplished musicians. So Yamuna had the sweetest voice you ever heard. Yes, our demo tape was rejected by Apple. But we were chanting and performing at the Roundhouse and other gigs around London, and there was lots of publicity about us in the underground press. News traveled fast in the underground London in 1968. So by the time I did meet George at that Christmas party at Apple, he walked across this crowded room past dozens of celebrities and held his hand out to me and said, \u201cWhere have you been? I\u2019ve been waiting to meet you.\u201d And then fast forward to Twickenham Studios two weeks later.<\/p>\n
Tom:<\/strong> Wow. Now, they were embracing the idea of a mantra, and we actually want to play a little bit of a tape. This is George speaking with Swami Prabhupada in Savile Row offices in 1969. Jackie, can you cue up George discussing the mantra concept for us?<\/p>\nGeorge Harrison:<\/strong> Isn\u2019t it like flowers? If somebody may prefer roses and somebody may like carnations better, isn\u2019t it really a matter for the devotee? One person may find Hare Krishna is more beneficial to his spiritual progress, and yet somebody else some other mantra may be more beneficial. Isn\u2019t it like just a matter of taste like judging a flower? They\u2019re all flowers, but some people may like one better than the other.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> So he\u2019s kind of giving the mantra concept, which they had learned in India, kind of giving it a second chance. They were discussing the Hare Krishna mantra where Swami was basically proclaiming it to be the mantra of all mantras, and they were embracing that as early as 1969.<\/p>\nSo under the heading of second chances, even though initially rejected by Apple, George offers to record you. Tell us how that comes to be.<\/p>\n
Shyamasundar:<\/strong> Well, fast forward a little bit more and in early July 1969 George rings me up from Abbey Road Studios, where the Beatles were recording their Abbey Road<\/em> album, and he says, \u201cJohn\u2019s been in a bit of a car smash-up and can\u2019t make it tonight. There\u2019s some studio time. Come on down and we\u2019ll make a record.\u201d Then in a few hours time we had the \u201cHare Krishna Mantra\u201d in the can.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Tell us about…you play an instrument called, if I\u2019m pronouncing this right, an esraj, is that right?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Yeah, it\u2019s like a violin, a bowed Indian instrument with about 32 strings.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> That single, which we heard a bit of before, the \u201cHare Krishna Mantra,\u201d comes out in August of \u201969 just as the Beatles are recording Abbey Road<\/em>. It goes to number 12 on the UK charts, and you guys go on Top of the Pops<\/em>. Did you in your wildest dreams see that coming?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Suddenly we\u2019re pop stars!<\/p>\nTom<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> We did a concert tour of Britain and Europe and appeared on the TV shows like Top of the Pops<\/em> and Top Pop<\/em> in Amsterdam. George often said later that one of the happiest moments in his life was sitting at home watching us do the Hare Krishna mantra on the telly.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> I have to ask. Who else was on Top of the Pops<\/em> that week? Who did you meet in the green room?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Oh, there was a lot of famous people. I\u2019ve listed them in my book, I don\u2019t remember offhand.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Before the full album takes shape, there\u2019s yet another single which Apple cited in all of its marketing materials and the trade ads that they did, they called it \u201cthe best record ever made.\u201d Now, this is coming from the company that runs the Beatles. The song is called \u201cGovinda,\u201d and it really says a lot about how the movement was gaining momentum through the power of music. Tell us about \u201cGovinda.\u201d<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Well, if the Beatles liked the Hare Krishna and their music, so did the whole world. For us, this fame in popular music was a preaching tool for higher knowledge, to tell the whole world about Krishna consciousness. Our music is embedded with information about ancient philosophy and the practice of God consciousness. Stuff like \u201cI am not my body. I am a tiny spark of spirit soul longing to be reunited in love with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who likes to be called Krishna.\u201d<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Yeah!<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> So with the Beatles\u2019 seal of approval, so to speak, Krishna consciousness spread around the world like lightning.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Well, it did it both through your music, and George is now starting to make his own records in 1970\u2014of course, the famous All Things Must Pass<\/em> record\u2014and by \u201971 is producing Ringo\u2019s record. What we want to play here are a couple of excerpts of very well-known big hit records by George and Ringo where listeners can hear the Hare Krishna mantra built into these Western songs. So Jackie, please first cue up George Harrison, \u201cMy Sweet Lord.\u201d<\/p>\n[clip of \u201cMy Sweet Lord\u201d]\nSo we hear the Hare Krishna mantra built as the backing vocals in a worldwide number one hit single. So they\u2019re helping you guys get that message out there. Whether listeners are actively or passively embracing it, one way or the other it\u2019s getting through.<\/p>\n
Shyamasundar:<\/strong> Yeah, well, George always felt that his whole life purpose was to inform the world about God. In the spring of 1970, several Hare Krishna householder couples including myself, my wife, and several others, we went out to live with George and Pattie at Friar Park, George\u2019s new estate out there in Oxfordshire. And over the next four or five months while we lived there, George wrote and recorded his first solo album, All Things Must Pass<\/em>, which includes the song which you just played. But if I look back, by now George was pretty much on his own.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Oh, yeah.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> He was inspired somewhat by us living under the same roof, but he was already there. He already knew the Krishna philosophy and way of life. OK, sometimes he\u2019d ask me for what rhymes with this word or play a few lines and ask me, \u201cWhat do you think of this?\u201d But by now George was complete unto himself with a full wind in his sails, and we were just simply fellow travelers.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Yeah, and that full wind brings him to producing Ringo\u2019s hit single, \u201cIt Don\u2019t Come Easy.\u201d Now, this mention of Hare Krishna is buried a bit in the mix, and through the magic of radio our engineer and ace producer, Carl Kranz, has lifted the vocal out from the mix and we\u2019re going to hear this. And once you hear this in this Ringo song, you\u2019ll never be able to unhear it. Jackie, please cue up that excerpt of \u201cIt Don\u2019t Come Easy.\u201d<\/p>\n[clip of \u201cIt Don\u2019t Come Easy\u201d with \u201cHare Krishna\u201d in background]\nSo we got the Hare Krishna even in \u201cIt Don\u2019t Come Easy.\u201d So he was getting that message out whether it was subliminally or out front or however it was being done.<\/p>\n
So by that point it\u2019s 1971, and now The<\/em> Radha Krsna Temple<\/em> album appears. You\u2019ve been on Top of the Pops<\/em> twice with your two hit singles, and by now George has really blended the mantra into Western music and involved people like not only Ringo but Billy Preston and Klaus Voorman and all the other guys at Apple. Tell us about how George worked with the members of the temple to get that very precise desired blend of East and Western influences to co-exist.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> I think George…he didn\u2019t work with us all that much. I think he already had all of this in him. If you can try to wrap your mind around this that there\u2019s no doubt in my mind looking back that George and the other Beatles, but especially George, were highly developed yogis in their past lives, and they were born into this incredible opportunity to finish the job and get out of this material plane and take as many with them as will listen. So we didn\u2019t really have that much influence on George other than just the philosophy. The sound and the music came from him, from his ear, through his ears and his brain and his soul.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Wow, this has been just so enlightening, Shyamasundar. I have one last question, and it\u2019s kind of my version of what Bill did before, the essay question, the big jackpot one. As you mentioned, years later it was I think in the 1980s, George looked back on that record, The Radha Krsna Temple<\/em>, calling that appearance on the Top of the Pops<\/em> one of the greatest thrills of his life and said it was so much more than making a hit pop record. It was the feeling of utilizing your own talents to do some spiritual service for Krishna. How do you think the record holds up today in its place in Beatles and Krishna legacies?<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> Well, George really got it. Action means service for God. The Sanskrit word for this is bhakti<\/em> or activity performed in the mood of love for God. And just as devotees will be listening to our Radha Krsna Temple<\/em> records forever, you can also say that \u201cGet Back,\u201d \u201cMy Sweet Lord,\u201d all these songs will be playing in supermarkets and elevators forever and ever. The Beatles were and they always will be the most vivid examples of musicians striving for transcendence, for going beyond and getting to the heart of our brief and rather comical existence in this material world. I would say in answer to your question that the Beatles and Krishna consciousness are both forever ideas, and they are somehow inextricably linked in this eternal dance of time.<\/p>\nTom:<\/strong> Yeah, and that\u2019s a great answer, by the way, you aced the essay portion of our test. Actually, if people want to hear that, The Radha Krsna Temple<\/em> album is back in print on Apple but also on the Best of Apple<\/em>, that great sampler that\u2019s out there with songs from Badfinger and Mary Hopkin and Billy Preston and James Taylor. There is it, \u201cGovinda,\u201d which Apple had called in 1969 \u201cthe greatest record ever made.\u201d<\/p>\nShyamasundar, you have been an absolute delight to talk with. Hare Krishna.<\/p>\n
Shyamasundar:<\/strong> Do I have a second to…<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> Yes, we want to hear about your book. We want to hear where we can get Chasing Rhinos with the Swami<\/em>.<\/p>\nShyamasundar:<\/strong> OK. Well, you might want to read my books. They\u2019re called Chasing Rhinos with the Swami<\/em>. You can check them out at www.chasingrhinos.com<\/a>, and there are dozens of stories in these books, never heard before stories about all the Beatles, but especially about George and his love for Krishna and Prabhupada and the Krishna devotees. So George fans especially will like the recent Volume 3 of Chasing Rhinos<\/em>, and these are tales from our later post-Beatles years together, our wild adventures in India and other places through the \u201980s and \u201990s. And that\u2019s, again, www.chasingrhinos.com<\/a>.<\/p>\nBill:<\/strong> I\u2019m ordering that as soon as this show is done.<\/p>\nDennis:<\/strong> Hi, it\u2019s Dennis, and I did want to…I also was looking through all the information and I read this quote because I wondered, \u201cGee, why is it called Chasing Rhinos with the Swami<\/em>?\u201d And there is in here…now, I don\u2019t know if this is something that you have said or this is a traditional saying, you can explain. Why call it Chasing Rhinos with the Swami<\/em>? And this is the quote:<\/p>\nWe should always be enthusiastic to try for capturing the rhinoceros. That way, if we fail, everyone will say, \u201cNever mind, nobody can catch a rhinoceros anyway,\u201d and if we succeed, then everyone will say, \u201cJust see what a wonderful thing they have done!\u201d<\/p>\n
Shyamasundar:<\/strong> Well, this was Prabhupada\u2019s, Bhaktivedanta Swami\u2019s formula for action. He always said… If you\u2019ve ever read Bhagavad-gita<\/em>, on the battlefield where Arjuna is asking Krishna, the Supreme Person, \u201cWhat should I do?\u201d Krishna gives him the blueprint for action, that our actions should be for God and to aim for the highest thing, the best thing, the most powerful thing you can do for Him in your service. So that\u2019s the theme.<\/p>\nDennis:<\/strong> Well, then, we thank you for spending time with us, and I think everyone will appreciate and perhaps better understand this next song.<\/p>\n[\u201cMy Sweet Lord\u201d]\n[END]\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"![](\")
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