“We Are Always With You”

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Hare KrishnaTalks by HH Indradyumna Swami and HH Giriraj Swami during the wedding ceremony of Piyush and Lalita-devi dasi, June 3, 2006 Carpinteria, CA

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“We Are Always With You” by HH Giriraj Swami

om ajnana-timirandhasya jnananjana-salakaya caksur unmilitam yena tasmai sri-gurave namah

“I offer my respectful obeisances unto my spiritual master, who has opened my eyes, which were blinded by the darkness of ignorance, with the torchlight of knowledge.”

sri-caitanya-mano- ‘bhistam sthapitam yena bhu-tale svayam rupah kada mahyam dadati sva-padantikam

“When will Srila Rupa Gosvami Prabhupada, who has established within this material world the mission to fulfill the desire of Lord Caitanya, give me shelter under his lotus feet?”

sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta vrnda

“All glories to Lord Sri Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Lord Nityananda, Advaita Acarya, Gadadhara Pandita Prabhu, Srivasa Thakura and all those devotees who follow in their footsteps.”

hare krsna, hare krsna, krsna krsna, hare hare hare rama, hare rama, rama rama, hare hare

“O Srimati Radharani [the divine energy of Lord Krsna, O Lord Krsna [the all-attractive reservoir of pleasure], please engage me in Your loving devotional service.”

We have gathered at a most auspicious occasion to perform a sacrifice for Visnu. In our lives we go through different phases, but the constant factor in every stage of life is service to God. And in the Vedic culture, every social event–every event of any kind–was meant to bring people together for the glorification of God. So we have the deities (arca-vigraha) here: Sri Sri Gandharvika-Giridhari, Sri Sri Nitai-Gaura-nataraja, and Srila Prabhupada. Whatever we have done here and whatever we do in our lives is meant for Their pleasure.

Our esteemed priest, Caitanya Bhagavan prabhu, has done an excellent job, as usual, of leading us through the ceremonies, reciting the mantras, and explaining them. And we are grateful to him.

We in Kali-yuga have been given a very special facility by God Himself, and that is that all rituals, all mantras, all devotional activities can be fulfilled by the chanting of the holy names of the Lord. In fact, the Vedic scriptures say that what could be achieved in Satya-yuga through meditation, what could be achieved in Treta-yuga through yajna, and what could be achieved in Dvapara-yuga through puja, can all be achieved in Kali-yuga by chanting the holy names of the Lord:

dhyayan krte yajan yajnais tretayam dvapare ‘rcayan yad apnoti tad apnoti kalau sankirtya kesavam

“Whatever is achieved by meditation in Satya-yuga, by the performance of sacrifice in Treta-yuga, and by the worship of Lord Krsna’s lotus feet in Dvapara-yuga is obtained in the age of Kali simply by glorifying the name of Lord Kesava.” (Visnu Purana 6.2.17)

Srimad-Bhagavatam, which is accepted as the supreme evidence in Vedic authority (sabda-pramana), describes that in every age the Lord appears in a specific incarnation to propagate a specific mode of worship for that particular age. And in the present age of Kali-yuga, people who are intelligent will perform sankirtana-yajna, the sacrifice of chanting of the holy names of Hari, or Krsna.

krsna-varnam tvisakrsnam sangopangastra-parsadam yajnaih sankirtana-prayair yajanti hi su-medhasah

“In the Age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the name of Krsna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krsna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions.” (SB 11.5.32)

His Holiness Indradyumna Swami Maharaja has already nicely explained the significance of marriage, vivaha-samskara, so I thought I might emphasize the spiritual continuity of the soul as it goes through different stages in one’s status of life. Actually, as we were sitting here before the ceremony began, I was looking at the deities and getting some impression–it is supported by sastra, but in a more personal way–that They have been with me for a long time. Now I am sitting here with Them, but They have been following me in my progress in life and probably through many lifetimes. The Lord is situated in the heart (isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese ‘rjuna tisthati), and it is said that He accompanies the soul–the Supreme Soul, Paramatma, accompanies the individual soul, jivatma–life after life, out of His love for the soul, who is His part and parcel, out of His mercy. So He is following our sojourn through different stages of life in our present lifetime and in past lifetimes.

As the Upanisads say, the jivatma and Paramatma are situated like two birds on the same branch of a tree, and one bird, the jivatma, is tasting the different fruits on the tree. Some are bitter and some are sweet. Thus the jiva is enjoying and suffering in the material world. And the Paramatma is sitting just next to the jivatma, witnessing all of his activities. He remains neutral. As long as the jiva is involved in enjoying and suffering the fruits of his or her actions, He remains neutral. But actually He is just waiting for the jivatma to turn to Him, to have the awakening that “This enjoying and suffering the fruits of life in the material world is not bringing me real satisfaction or happiness. There must be something more.” And then, when the jiva turns his face toward the Paramatma, the Lord within the heart becomes very eager and willing to help that soul.

Sri Caitanya-caritamrta describes how that help is manifest:

brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija

“The living entity is wandering through the universe in different species of life, but when one becomes fortunate, by the grace of guru and Krsna such a soul gets the seed of devotional service, the bhakti-lata-bija.” By the grace of Krsna, one gets guru, and by the grace of guru, one gets Krsna.

Lord Krsna told His friend Sudama, “As the Supersoul, I sit in everyone’s heart and observe everyone’s activity in every stage and order of life. Regardless of which stage one is in, when I see that one is engaged seriously and sincerely in discharging the duties ordered by the spiritual master and is thus dedicating his life to the service of the spiritual master, that person becomes most dear to Me. Without the blessings of the spiritual master no one can be happy. By the mercy of the spiritual master and by his blessings, one can fulfill the mission of human life.” (Krsna, Ch
80)

As His Holiness Indradyumna Swami said, it is not in every lifetime that we get the association of sadhus. Such association is most rare and valuable. As I was told when I first met the devotees, the living entity in the ocean of material existence is like a turtle in an ocean and the chance of the living entity coming in touch with a bona fide spiritual master is like that of the turtle finding a raft with a hole in it and climbing through the hole to safety on that raft. It is not an ordinary thing. So that is the Lord’s mercy, that He brings devotees in touch with His servants, His representatives–teachers of the science of devotion.

And these relationships are eternal. Our relationship with our spiritual master, our relationship with Krsna–these are eternal. We might be in brahmacari-asrama for some time, we might be in grhastha-asrama for some time, and then we may enter vanaprastha-asrama, and in the case of some, sannyasa-asrama. Those are external, and those are part of the gradual process of purification. But the constant factor is our relationship with the spiritual master, with the disciplic succession, with Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and ultimately Sri Sri Gandharvika-Giridhari.

We wish the couple, Piyush and Lalita, all the best. Bhakta Piyush has achieved the mercy of His Holiness Radhanath Swami, who is unable to be here with us today but did ask me to convey his blessings and good wishes to the couple. And I am sure that not only Their Lordships Gandharvika-Giridhari, Sri Sri Nitai-Gaura-nataraja, and Srila Prabhupada will be with you through your sojourn; in fact, all of us, all of your well-wishers, to our capacity, as much as we are able to stand on the spiritual platform, will also be with you. You should never feel alone or like you are going into some wilderness and don’t know what awaits you, or going into some palace and don’t know what awaits you [laughter]. We will always be with you, there to help you in your spiritual life and everything that pertains to it.

Hare Krsna.

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Dont we need Polygamy

Hare Krishna

Considering the fact that there is a dearth of qualified men in society today and also since all women bodies need to get married..shouldn’t polygamy be allowed.

After all SP said it was a good idea. Also our Vedic texts allow this. Shouldnt we campaign for it and get it legalised in India?

After all the goverment is allowing it for Muslims becoz it says so in the Quran…but it says so in the Vedic texts also…a man can marry more than one woman…

this will stop the problems due to divorce also a lot…

and give respectability to women…becoz many men still keep women as illegal wives…such women have no social standing ..nor legal status…and these women dont get respect or property etc…

the children also suffer…from lack of proper recognition.

This could reduce the problems of female infanticide and also reduce prostitution.

So legalising and socially accepting polygamy will solve all this.

Pls discuss this very important topic.

I hope this topic will if possible be given a separate thread and discussed indepth since SP did speak in favor of it, though at times there may have been conflicting views on it. There are many confusions regarding this concept today and it would be mercy if seniors could discuss this and educate others in this forum.

Hare Krishna

Comment posted by vedic.hindu on October 12th, 2006
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In response to the comment “don’t we need polygamy”; Actually, the Krsna consciouss idea is to minimize sex life, not expand it. By the way, it is not just the women who need a husband, by far the majority of men also need a spouse. This does not preclude purity or spiritual advancement, but rather is a normal and safe position, relatively. Still, we wish to minimize. Who nowadays can handle one spouse, what to speak of two or more?

Once, while discussing this topic, Srila Prabhupada was laughing about the idea, saying that, paraphrase, “He is already spoiled, so why not one more wife?” But the gist of the conversation was that this is not at all recommended, neither will the law in some countries allow it, as noted. Sounds to me like trouble!

Campaigning for this anywhere would likely result in bad publicity for us. Do we need this?

Haribol! Tamoharadasa

Comment posted by Tamoharadasa on October 12th, 2006
3 Unregistered

Dear Vedic.Hindu

I am sort of interested to know what prompted you to insert a call for Polygamy as a response to this article. It doesn’t seem to have any direct relationship with it at all except for the fact that a marriage was taking place. Perhaps you don’t want to be identified for your views, and that’s why you have choosen Vedic.Hindu as a pseudonym. Be that as it may, I agree with you that polygamy is Vedic. However in order to re-introduce such concepts and/or practices one has to have a society that is amenable to allowing it. Since clearly the emphasis in ISKCON is to restrict sex life what would be the advantage for ISKCON to allow or encourage polygamy?

Comment posted by Gaura Keshava das on October 13th, 2006

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