From Sri Mayapur Chandrodaya Mandir
Date: February 27, 2017
Speaker: HH Sivarama Swami
Subject: Srimad Bhagavatam 7.10.19-21
Transcriber: Madhumati Priyasaki dd
VERSE 19-21
yatra yatra ca mad-bhaktāḥ
sarvātmanā na hiṁsanti
bhavanti puruṣā loke
TRANSLATION:
Whenever and wherever there are peaceful, equipoised devotees who are well behaved and decorated with all good qualities, that place and the dynasties there, even if condemned, are purified.
My dear Prahlāda, King of the Daityas, because of being attached to devotional service to Me, My devotee does not distinguish between lower and higher living entities. In all respects, he is never jealous of anyone.
Those who follow your example will naturally become My pure devotees. You are the best example of My devotee, and others should follow in your footsteps.
PURPORT:
Wherever exalted devotees stay, not only they and their dynasties but the entire country is purified.
In this connection, Śrīla Madhvācārya quotes a verse from the SkandaPurāṇa:
ṛtetu tāttvikān devān
nāradādīṁs tathaiva ca
prahrādād uttamaḥko nu
viṣṇu–bhaktau jagat–traye
There are many, many devotees of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and they have been enumerated in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam (6.3.20) as follows:
svayambhūr nāradaḥśambhuḥ
kumāraḥ kapilo manuḥ
prahlādo janako bhīṣmo
balir vaiyāsakir vayam
Of the twelve authorized devotees—Lord Brahmā, Nārada, Lord Śiva, Kapila, Manu and so on—Prahlāda Mahārāja is understood to be the best example.
LECTURE:
Today is the disappearance of extraordinarily long title, devotee shorten it call it “Je anilo”, but it is part of “Bhagavad Viraha Janita Vilapa”. Lamentation due to separation of the Lord and His associates.
Maharaj leads the song and reads the translation of Je anilo,
The argument can be resolved when you exactly when prathana was composed at least this song, since Srinivas Acharya departed on the certain date was it written before that. No it wasn’t certainly speaking about that. Hare Krishna
Srimad B ki Jay. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya
Sukadeva Goswami didn’t have to do this. Hare Krishna. I wanted to prepare for this class last night, but I got distracted because I got a message from my cousin that my aunt, that means my mother’s sister passed away, so that means after class I have to go to Toronto, Canada and somehow or the other my family always departs when I am in India. Same thing happened with my father, same thing happened with my mother, now it’s my aunt, not many of us left to go. So I had to arrange for the airplane tickets and these are 3 wonderful verses , one of them appear that Nrsimhadev speaks about Prahlad Maharaj.
Maharaj reads three verse. I will read the one line purport of Srila Prabhupada.
Pranam mantras:
Let’s go through this verses one by one.
Verse 1:
Whenever and wherever there are peaceful, equipoised devotees who are well behaved and decorated with all good qualities, that place and the dynasties there, even if condemned, are purified.
When we read Caitanya Caritamrita, Kaviraj Goswami describes that, in the same way Krishna made his associates take place in different parts of at that time in India. Similarly, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu made his associates take birth in different places particularly one mentioned is about Lord Nityananda. Lord Nityananda appeared as we heard few weeks back in Radadesh, so the place where Ganges doesn’t flow. It is the tradition amongst the very religious and strict Vaishnavas they will not go to a place, live in a place, travel in a place where they cannot bathe in the Ganges. If they cannot bathe in the Ganges, it’s not a fit place for Vaishnavas. Because of course bathing in the Ganges is equivalent to thou see yourself with the mercy of the Lord. The water flowing from the lotus feet of the lord is actually is also the liquid form of Lord Krishna so it’s very purifying. Sometime during British raj, one of the Jaipur kings went to England, he went by ship, and he, the Ganges doesn’t flow in Jaipur, obviously he used to take bath in Ganges. Ganges water would be brought to him. What to speak of Ganges in Jaipur, Ganges doesn’t flow in London. Actually, there is a place in Jaipur which is the name of which I just forget, it is not far from Jaipur, where actually the Ganges is manifested by the desire of a sage. But in any case, because he had this vrta he would only drink and bathe in Ganges water, so there are the huge silver urns, so big and he took with him on the ship. Those days it wasn’t airplane so takes a ship to go to London, I don’t know how long it would take probably something like a week. To live there and come back, so he took the Ganges water.
So now back to the point, Lord Nityananda appeared there in order to purity the place. So here the statement is made there are many impure places around the world, and if we take Srila Prabhupada statement some of his disciples or associates were sent by his spiritual master, in order to help him spread Krishna Consciousness. But they also appeared not only different part of India but different parts of world.
The benefit of this was to not only purify both those the families they appear and who must be very pious. “Sucinam sirmatam gehe yogo brashta” so Krishna says that devotees don’t take birth in ordinary families they are already somewhat qualified. But particularly great personalities like Prahlad maharaj, they appear, they take birth then they purify the place which they appear.
What does it mean by purify? To purify a place, to purify people. Purify is the word we know what it means. It means something that is impure becomes pure or becomes purer. There are at the different stages of purification, we have something very impure and it becomes somewhat purer but it is impure. So in Bhagavad Gita for instance Krishna describes how the modes of material nature competes. So, better than tamsas is rajas. Come up from the mode of ignorance to the mode of passion is better. But the mode of passion is impure. But come up from the mode of passion to goodness that is also impure. But it is purer, it is purification. The process of purification and then there is purification coming from the material platform to the spiritual platform. So, you come from the mode of goodness to the mode of transcendental goodness, Suddha sattva where visuda sattva. Come to the platform of Bhava come to the platform of purity, but then there are different stages of purity.
This is why the comparison is being made, here in this verse is Srila Prabhupada quotes and earlier Bhakti Vigjan and other maharajas have given the relative merits of different Vaishnavas and sort of comparative devotion, who is better, in a transcendental sense, because all of them are best. But who is better.
So even if you go from ecstatic devotional service, to love of Godhead, it is one stage of purity. Now it is purity, but going to higher stage of purity. And even when you come to the platform of prema it doesn’t stop there. Prema, sneham, pranaya, Rag, Anurag, Bhav , Mahabhav these are all comparative stage of further purity.
So how does actually that type of purification take place? It requires a pure thing to make something impure, excuse pure thing to make something purer or bring it to the platform, spiritual platform of purification. And that’s what lord Nrsimhadev is speaking about here. Hiranyakashipu, of all people, we quote him sometimes, earlier on he gives good philosophy about the eternality of the soul when his brother dies. Hiranyaksha’s relatives are lamenting. He says don’t lament, it’s just the body that dies and the soul is eternal. Hiranyakashipu also talks about in not in the Bhagavatam, where there in another text in Haribhakti sudodaya, where he says that the association is like a crystal whatever you put in front of the crystal, that crystal reflects that thing. You put light in front of it, and it reflects light. If you put something dirty in front of it, it reflects dirty. Actually, the crystal itself never becomes contaminated, but it just reflects that which comes near it.
Similarly, with association, and then even more and more graphic example is the example of the touch stone. Caitanya Mahaprabhu uses the example of touch stone as to acharyas for different purposes. Two types of Touch stone, one which is on the spiritual world, and one which is in the heavenly planet. One that transforms everything into gold, if you are looking for gold that’s what it gives you. Or it can give some type of material benefits. But the, ” cintamani-prakara-sadmasu” , that cintamani that actually transforms someone into spiritual substance, so you take it and it will transform. Well, this book is already cintamani so it will not transfer, but transfer the body into cintamani. But it doesn’t change itself it remains the same.
So similarly, the process of association like that that a pure thing or a transcendentally pure thing for instance someone in the mode of goodness. Someone in the mode of goodness can elevate someone in the mode of ignorance or in the mode of passion. For instance Thakur Bhakti Vinod says madyama adikari can give other people Shraddha. But a Utamma Adikari, can actually bestow prema upon someone else. Krishna when he is talking about the lifting of Govardhana hill, and elsewhere Jiva Goswami also said you can only give what you have you can’t give more than what you have.
So, association works in the same way, according to what you are and where you are situated spiritually then the citamani touch of Vaishnava, it’s not just vaishnav, we were talking about the Ganges, the soil of the dham, the dham itself Krishna, the deities, “prasadam, Maha prasada govinde namo brahmanya vaishnave” it is also transcendental subject you eat prasadam, you become prasadam. It transforms you. Although it may look the same as it was after it was cooked and before when it was cooked, but it has this type of spiritual potency. And the spiritual potency is something that is imbued or manifested by the dint of Krishna’s bhakti Shakti or generally His swarup shakti Krishna’s own spiritual potency becomes manifested and persons, person things act to different things.To the degree that becomes manifest to that degree the connection of one thing with another then brings about the level of purification. It sis the same way with the material things you touch electricity, you touch electric wire, by the association you get electric shock. You touch fire, which is hot then by the heat, with the association of heat you get burned. So, association works on the mat platform and on the spiritual platform
On the next verse switch to the next verse, the Lord says because of being attached to devotional service to me, my devotee does not distinguish between lower and higher living entities. In all respects, he is never jealous of anyone.
By the association of personalities Vaishnavas like Prahlad maharah one becomes a devotee and of course the qualification, He is peaceful equipoised, decorated with all the good qualities, titiksava karunika suhrda sadhu devinam” sadhu bhushanam it is decorated, Lord Kapila Dev uses the same phrase here it is “sadhava samudacaras sadhava sadbhushanam”, the good qualities of Vaishnava the Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that Vaishanva sadacar good behavior of Vaishnavas are the ornament they are decorated Vaishnavas. Whereas materialistic people decorate themselves with bangles and rings and jewelry and fine clothing and so many other things. But Vaishnava is decorated by his good qualities. They are more visible than ornaments. Jai shree shree Radha Madhava ki Jay!
In relationship to the second where Lord Nrsimhadev is talking about the vision of a Vaishnava. He doesn’t distinguish between higher and lower living entities. He is never jealous of anyone. We hear this, this is the characteristic of Vaishnava. How does one acquire it? what is the sadhana for it? just brought 11th canto over wonderful text, in other languages it is may not be translated. But 11th canto is extraordinary, really wonderful. Particularly most of it is Krishna that is Uddhava gita I am reading right at the end of Uddhava gita, which is bhakti yoga, and is much as Krishna speaks about Bhakti yoga in Bhagavad Gita, quite minimally when compared to the 700 verses although the entire theme of the Gita is bhakti.
But Krishna is much more explicit, much more detailed, about the process of devotional service. But Krishna here, in the conclusion of His teachings to Uddhava he explains how is it someone comes to a stage of not being able to distinguish between one person and another. Why do I not see the difference between a man and a woman and a young person and an old person, this colored person and that colored person obviously I see a distinction in terms of the body there is something deeper. “suni caiva sva-pake ca panditah sama-darsinah” where and how is this samadarasan come about? Of course, we know the presence of the soul here in everyone, but Krishna says in pure heart one should see me, the supreme soul within all beings, and also both within oneself the unborn unblemished by anything and also present everywhere both externally and internally just like omnipresence God. This is qualified by Jiva Goswami he points out when Krishna talks about the Supreme Soul, He is talking not just about the Supersoul, but about Himself, Krishna. So the devotees should see Krishna in everyone and everywhere.
Krishna says, what is the process for cultivating or developing this type of sadhana to see everyone as spirit soul and as residents of Supreme Lord, we offer respects to Vaishnavas. Krishna says like this, Oh. brilliant uddahva one who views all living entities as I am present within each of them, whgo by taking shelter of this divine knowledge, offers due respect to everyone is considered actually wise. Such a man sees equally the Brahmin and the outcast and thief, and the charitable promoter of Brahmanical culture, the sun, and the tiny sparks of fire, the gentle and the cruel. For him, who constantly medicates upon my presence within all persons, the bad tendencies of rivalry, envy, abusiveness along with false ego are very quickly destroyed.
So note, because here it is also stated he is not jealous of everyone. How does one become free from jealousy or these other qualities? By seeing that Krishna is actually within everyone, and ultimately Krishna is the one who is moving all living entities, the bodies of everyone, what to speak of Vaishnavas, or the homes of the Lord.
This regarding the ridicule of one’s companion, one should give up the bodily conception, and is accompanying embarrassment one should offer obeisance to all even the dogs, outcast, cows and asses, falling flat upon the ground like a rock.
If you don’t do this practically because it is hard to get from one place to another offering dandavats but then it also indicates a certain type of mentality. Lord Caitanya has summarized that, “tranad api suni cena taror api sahishnuna” so that we have this type of humble respectful attitude to everyone to all living entities.
One little anecdote, in Chicago, when I was residing in Chicago, and distributing in the airport, Vaisesika prabhu said, that he was born in an airport practically speaking he was only 17 years old when he was distributing there.We had one devotee, who still I think he is in St Louis, Cakri. So, well 11th canto wasn’t out that time, but we had a cat in the temple because the temple was actually YMCA, it was old building there was lot of mice, many mice and they would even go on the altar. The brahmacari ashram was in swimming pool, we lived around the swimming pool. When Tamal Krishna became the GBC, he had a genius idea of covering the swimming pool and building rooms on it. We never thought of that idea. Anyway when Cakri got up in the morning he would offer dandavats to this cat, he offered his obeisance to all the devotees as well but he did it to the cat which sometimes to all the devotees but literally he was doing this. He was a very, very humble devotee.
So, Krishna says, until you develop this ability to see me within all living beings you must continue to worship Me by this process with the activity of speech, mind and body. In another word, offering respects to everyone being kind, gentle, non-envious and so on.
Now we get to the 3rd verse and then from here on talk a little about Tamal Krishna Goswami maharaj. The Lord says, those who follow your example, will naturally become my pure devotees, you are the best example of my devotee, and others should follow in your footsteps.
This is actually, the path of Bhakti, devotional service. Rupa Goswami starts off, this is the essential element “sadhu vartmanu” you follow in the footsteps of sadhus. There are so many rules in devotional service, there are so many things for us to do, but in summary our business is to follow the path in which, mahajana yena katha sumanta” we follow the path of the mahajans. Of course, the path, how do we know the path of Prahlad maharaj? You have to follow your immediate Acharya, you have to follow your immediate Mahajan. For us our immediate Mahajan is Srila Prabhupada.
What Jiva Goswami said and did, what Rasikananda prabhu said and did, what Prahlad Maharaj said and did, what all the personalities who we read about in Srimad Bhagavatam, if we know exactly how exactly in time, place and circumstance, put their teachings and example into practice, then we follow Srila Prabhupada. This morning, when I was getting ready, I was just listening to a conversation, and this is 1977 Bhubaneshwar, Srila Prabhupada is talking to a French devotee, obviously he has got a very very, strong French accent and of course this devotee still lives in Vrindavan. This devotee came to Srila Prabhupada to ask him about his real spiritual experiences and his dream. How much credibility you can put in it? Satswarup Maharaj also was an advocate from him, Srila Prabhupada, devotees put in lot of stock in the dreams they have Krishna, how real is this> Srila Prabhupada really plays it down. He answers in different ways, and then he gives some clearance he sees devotee persists, he says, you may be very fortunate be dreaming about Krishna or something. But important thing is what are you doing, whats your service? and Srila Prabhupada sets some example, I have so many examples, I have one friend we went to Puri together, and he is a rich man so he was able to come up close to Jagannath and when he was circumambulating Jagannath, Jagannath got hold of his clothes & was pulling his clothes. Srila Prabhupada just laughed do you think Jagannath is pulling his cloth?
Srila Prabhupada said, this is I don’t know I am not so fortunate I didn’t have any of those spiritual experiences, I just follow my spiritual master. So, sadhu varthamanugam, our business is, mahajano yena katha sapanta.” What does Mahajan mean. It needs to be clear for all the members of Krishna Consciousness movement, when we are talking about Srila Prabhupada as the founder Acharya, it means that Srila Prabhupada is our Mahajan, and Srila Prabhupada‘s teachings in textual for us and his teachings, his examples, his instructions, all the instructions of the other Mahajan. Otherwise Prabhupada will use the other example, you cannot jump over. Jumping over means, you think, well Srila Prabhupada said this but such and such Acharya, Jiva Goswami, Vishwanath Cakravarti Thakura, said something different. So no, Srila Prabhupada didn’t say anything different, it’s just the matter of we don’t understand the context in which Srila Prabhupada is saying the same thing as what the Acharyas say. Because ultimately that is the qualification that the Divine Grace would repeatedly emphasize, that I haven’t changed anything I just follow my spiritual master.
Similarly, that’s what Srila Prabhupada asked us to do. This is just to follow just, to follow the process by which he gave us, to be a good servant. Tamal Krishna Maharaj wrote this book, the servant of the servant, which is long time ago when I read it. He also wrote another book which was about Prabhupada’s final days, what is that book called? TKG diary. So, my interaction with Tamal Krishna Maharaj went back quite sometime contrary to some misunderstanding I was never part of radha damodar sankirtan party, I was on the other side, I was one of the temple presidents was a brahmachary, Well, I didn’t have to fight to keep the brahmacharis, because in Chicago and everyone was sort of breaking their neck to get into Chicago airport to distribute over there. So, people weren’t leaving. But I remember my first, I am bringing up this example of Tamal Krishna Maharaj, someone who especially in the last few years unfortunately I come to appreciate just how much he was actually a servant of a servant and a type of very intimate service that he rendered to Srila Prabhupada. I will try to just elaborate on that for the 10 mins we have left.
But I first communicated with him on telephone, when I was, I became when I move to I started a temple in Minneapolis. We opened the temple over there and Radha Damodar came to take over that temple, but it was supposed to be their training base. Minneapolis was famous for one thing a main clinic, which was the main cancer clinic, primary Cancer Clinic of America. It was located there in airport, lot of cancer patients were coming and going.
So, it is a good, they really understood when you talked about you don’t know when you are going to die. Although some many of them knew when they are going to die it wasn’t far away. And before we moved from there to Chicago, I wanted some compensation for the legal fees making the airport legal. So, they phoned Tamal Krishna Maharaj, he is in charge but we never get any money from him. So, I phoned him up, talked to him on the telephone and he said, well that’s reasonable and he did compensate us for our share of our legal cost. And then the next was when I had a telephone conversation this was back in 1976, he was very nice when we were talking over the phone, and I was, or this was even earlier when I was temple president. I joined in Mondreal someone mentioned Bolingali long ago. if I remember I joined Bolingali if there is same boligali that Srila Prabhupada Vyasa puja was observed and temple president at that time was Utttama sloka when I joined, and then it was Vishwa karama later on when I moved in.
Anyway, he became the temple president of Chicago, once he phoned me up and he said can you lend 5000$ for ratha yatra. Five thousand dollars was lot of money that time. And somehow or the other I was I contact with Tamal Krishna Maharaj and I said what do you think about this should I lend them 5000$ actually it wasn’t a loan, just give them $5000 and he said, yes, you should do that this is the spirit Srila Prabhupada wanted our Krishna consciousness movement to be that we don’t just think about our local situation if you can afford it and it becomes great preaching over there, why not.
And that stayed with me, Goswami maharaj emphasized yes this was prabhupada ‘s mood, don’t be miserly. I am going to jump ahead, many years we had many interactions, some of them were quite difficult, some of them were very blissful, difficult in the sense that sometimes we had disagreements, very explicit disagreements, but I won’t get into that. There are Srila Prabhupada disciples here, they know of Tamal Krishna Goswami Maharaj’s achievements in the movement and Srila Prabhupada really trusted him managerial ability, but it came at a cost, but I won’t talk about the cost. When someone has departed then we only speak about good things. I mean, they weren’t bad things but educational things but he could be very, very strong he could be very heavy as we use that word. Tamal Krishna Maharaj came to Srila Prabhupada just around this time in 1977 and that’s 40 years ago, its 40 years Srila Prabhupada left this world. I am over there personally telling him that this book, this diary book, he, I am just trying to think it was hand written, parts of it were hand written, parts of it were typed. No, it was a handwritten diary, that he kept in Vrindavan, when we were driving from Dallas to Chicago, that was overnight drive, in his motorhome in berth, and I would sleep in the upstairs bunk, and he slept in the downstairs bunk and I was when I was on my way out of his zone to London for other reasons I won’t explain. But then he gave me this diary and I was reading the diary in his handwriting. The diary that he kept when he was with Srila Prabhupada, up until Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance.
Tamal Krishna Maharaja came, and he told me and said I really felt like I need to be with Srila Prabhupada, although he had a free run of ISKCON, in terms of preaching in New York and as probably one the best preaching fields were there but Tamal Krishna Maharaj wrote to Srila Prabhupada and said I would like to come and be your secretary. Srila Prabhupada immediately replied, it is a great idea and Tamal Krishna Maharaj came. I only have 5 mins. I may run just a few minutes overtime. I think I mentioned that in previous talk here, there were this Srila Prabhupada recordings in 1977. 98% of which are not lectures, these are recordings, recordings of Prabhupada’s conversations upstairs here in Mumbai, Vridavan, kumbameal, Calcutta, Bhubaneshwar, discussions with devotees, they are much more informal. and in 1977 here Srila Prabhupada became very sick and from that time on his health was on the decline. If you listen to these tapes, and I am on the third time, I listen to it often and go back to listening to others, because they portray a different type of vision of Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada is at the certain point, it becomes very clearl he was preparing to leave the world and what is the Acharya say and do when he is deciding to leave? How does he interact with the devotees? Prabhupada sent out, Tamal Krishna Maharaj sent out to telexes, telephone calls and messages to all around the world Srila Prabhupada said, anyone who wants to come they should come, all my devotees can come. When someone asked the question Srila Prabhupada what will happen to the temples, who would do, Srila Prabhupada said let them come.
Srila Prabhupada wanted to be with his disciples. I was there at Chicago that time, I was book distributer we weren’t programed to be with Prabhupada, we were programmed to serve. So, I didn’t go. Buts if you listen to this tapes, you hear something, you see something, I see something very extraordinary and that is the unique relationship he had with Tamal Krishna Maharaj. Prabhupada literally put himself on Tamal Krishna Maharaj’s hand. He, that didn’t mean he didn’t correct Tamal Krishna Maharaj sometimes, but then the real example of this was when Srila Prabhupada went to London. Srila Prabhupada is was sick and actually Srila Prabhupada was getting he was wearing, I used the word depressed just lying on the bed, Srila Prabhupada constantly moved around the temples and he never stayed in the temple for more than 3 days and for 10 years travelling all over the world, and inspiring devotees and preaching. Since he came back from Rishikesh in may Srila Prabhupada was more or less laying down, he was horizontal in bed. Srila Prabhupada returned to Vrindavan from Rishikesh was just one and a half minutes and all he says is if I die I wanted to be here in Vrindavan. And Srila Prabhupada uses the word morose, I am very morose here, I am just lying here and in this situation and at certain point Tamal Krishna Maharaj starts to encourage Prabhupada, you wanted to go to preach I will take you to the west, I’ll take you around to the devotees, if the devotees see you they would get so much inspiration.
Once Srila Prabhupada virdavan friend was there he heard this idea Srila Prabhupada was telling him Srila Prabhupada said he Tamal Krishna Maharaj he is giving me so much enthusiasm, he is giving me hope, he is giving me enthusiasm to go, so I want to see my disciples one more time. So, Srila Prabhupada said he was going to go to Gita nagiri and show them how to practice varnashrama. Of course, Prabhupada didn’t get past London. He got to Bhakti Vedanta Manor and many repeatedly I can’t say how many times Srila Prabhupada would make his disciples repeat never take me the hospital do you understand? Never take me to the hospital. When Prabhupada was in London, he had what’s called retention he couldn’t pass water. I had that happened to me once and I was it was so painful I was banging on the walls of the cars when I was being taken to the hospital. The doctor told me, don’t complain when a woman delivers the child its worse, alright I won’t complain. I was going up the elevator I was still banging on the wall. So Prabhupada asked what shall we do. Tamal Krishna Maharaj said ,Prabhupada we should go to the hospital, they took him to the general ward which is not the hospital anyone wants to go to if you are ever sick in London. They took him to ortho general and they and this minor operation which Tamal Krishna Maharaj was present there and then Tamal Krishna Maharaj brought Srila Prabhupada back, he came to Vrindavan.
This tapes missing but that part of there, when Srila Prabhupada laying back on the bed and Srila Prabhupada thanked Tamal Krishna Maharaj, only you could have done this, Krishna will bless you. This is Krishna will bless you for what you have done.
And I think Bhakti Charu Maharaj when I was talking with him, he told that once he was are they are here in Mayapur or Vrindavan he came in night Bhakti Charu maharaj was Tamal Krishna Maharaj ‘s assistant. He was joined late 1976, so he became the part of antaraj. Once he came in one evening, Srila Prabhupada and Tamal Krishna Maharaj were sitting with on Prabhupada under the mosquito net. Tamal Krishna Maharaj was just massaging and they were sitting facing each other and they were just conversing. When I saw that I could understand they are just very special type of relationship.
So, here when lord Nrsimhadev says when because of those who follow your example will naturally become pure devotees you are the best example of the my pure devotees, and others should follow in your footsteps. So, I thought it is very nice coincidental with Tamal Krishna Maharaj. I liked to say more but our time is limited, if you listen to those conversations you will see this extraordinary relationship. Although Tamal Krishna Maharaj almost always calls him your Divine grace to Srila Prabhupada, it’s never informal, but at the same time there is the special type of interaction, which prior to the that I didn’t actually catch although I had very close relationship Tamal Krishna Maharaj for some time he was living there in UK and I was gbc and we interacted a lot. We got in trouble with gbc together and other things like that but nonetheless, I didn’t know this part, I didn’t know. Although I read, it I heard a little but if you see yes he was very special, Hare Krishna, Srila Prabhupada ki jay , Tamal Krishna Goswami ki jay , that’s it we are little overtime and Hare Krishna.