
By Ravindra Svarupa dasa
During my initial encounter with Krishna consciousness, I was puzzled, and then troubled, by the absence of any consideration of ârightsââhuman rights, civil rightsâin the social teachings of Shrila Prabhupada, who took great pains to elucidate an ideal âVedic society.â It seemed to me that rights ought to be a central concern of this or any other social ideal.
Moreover, the social order he extolled as exemplaryâindeed as divinely ordainedâwas unapologetically hierarchical. All the more need for rights, I thought. Isnât respect for rights the greatest safeguard against the abuse of power?
My typical American education had glorified the eighteenth century discovery of âthe rights of manâ as a supreme achievement of Enlightenment thinking. To that revolutionary historical breakthrough we owed that bold assertion in our âDeclaration of Independenceâ every school child was made to memorize: âWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.â
The polity promoted in Bhagavatam could hardly be more different from that advocated by the so-called Enlightenment. One of its foremost ideologues, the philosopher Denis Diderot, said: âMankind will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.â Bhagavatam, in contrast, teaches that a society lead by priests and kings best facilitates human freedom.
Bhagavatam at once challenged my received ideas. It would require me to unlearn a great dealâthe consensual reality I had unquestionably accepted with uncritical faith. Reposing my faith in Bhagavatam, on the other hand, could hardly be uncritical. And so came my misgiving concerning rights.
As it happened, my first readings of Bhagavatam were confined to the second canto, which, in 1969 and 70, ISKCON Press published serially, chapter by chapter, in thin paperbacks. The volumes of the first canto, published in India and trunked to America by Prabhupada himself, were long sold out. Only after I moved into the Philadelphia ashram, in January of 71, was I able to read the templeâs copy of the first canto. I discovered a crudely bound work, printed on cheap paper, each page bristling with typos. It was written in Prabhupadaâs idiomatic, âbabu English,â yet his distinctive voiceânot yet editorially planed and sanded like the second cantoâspoke out all the more powerfully.
It was here I encountered a text that resolved all my worry about rights. In the fourth verse of chapter twelve, I read about the exemplary King Yudhisthira, who cared for all of thoses born in his kingdom. Prabhupada comments:
Herein the word âPrajahâ is significant. The etymological import of the word is that which is born. On the earth there are many species of life from the aquatics up to the perfect human beings and all are known as âPrajas. . . . . As such the Praja is used in a broader sense than it is now used. The King is meant for all living beings namely the aquatics, plants, trees, the reptiles, the birds, the animals and the man. Every one of them is a part and parcel of the Supreme Lord (B. G. 14/4), and the King being the representative of the Supreme Lord, he is duty-bound to give proper protection to every one of them. It is not like the presidents and dictators of the demoralised system of administration where the lower animals are given no protection while the higher animals are given so called protection. But this is a great science which can be learnt only by one who has learnt the science of Krishna as already refered to above by us.
The king, as Godâs representative, is âduty-bound to give proper protection to every one of them.â I gave some thought to this idea: The king is the head of state, the government. And all living beings, even the animals, are citizens. This means that they have (as we would put it today) civil rights. And the government must guarantee those rights.
In 1971, the idea of animal rights was âway out there,â a notion of the lunatic fringe. Yet this highly radical extension of civil rights to animals was contained within Prabhupadaâs exposition of monarchismâa most conservative political philosophy, to say the least. Bhagavatam was destroying the standard conservative-liberal typology.
From that moment I understood that modern, enlightened ârightsâ were no innovation; they had somehow been implicit in the entirely old fashioned, conservative, pre-enlightenment idea of duty.
A few years later, browsing a used book store, I happened to pick up a volume by the French theologian Simone Weil. Iâd learned about this extraordinary personââa modern saintââin a graduate religion course, and I was curious to know more.
The book, translated from the French as The Need for Roots, opens on the first page with a brilliant and penetrating discussion about rights and obligations (or duties); it grealy helped me to understand Prabhupadaâs Bhagavatam.
Simone Weil begins:
The notion of obligations comes before that of rights, which is subordinate and relative to the former. A right is not effectual by itself, but only in relation to the obligation to which is corresponds, the effective exercise of a right springing not from the individual who possesses it, but from other men who consider themselves as being under a certain obligation toward him. Recognition of an obligation makes it effectual. An obligation which goes unrecognized by anybody loses none of the full force of its existence. A right which goes unrecognized by anybody is not worth very much.
To say that a king like Yudhisthira has duties or obligations toward the living being in his realm is another way of asserting that those subjects have rights. But Weil asserts here that it is better to think in terms of obligations than of rights. Why? Because the idea of rights is subordinate to and depends upon the idea of an obligation. I may assert that I have some right, but that recognition becomes effective only if some others recognize that they have obligations toward me. So it is better to be concerned with obligations.
Moreover, an obligation remains in force even if it is unacknowledged. An unrecognized right by itself has no force. It gains force only when the corresponding obligation is recognized.
Weil continues her analysis, showing that the difference between rights and duties is simply a difference of point of view:
It makes nonsense to say that men have, on the one hand, rights, and on the other hand, obligations. Such words only express differences in point of view. The actual relationship between the two is as between object and subject. A man, considered in isolation, only has duties, among which are certain duties toward himself. Other men, seen from his point of view, only have rights. He, in his turn, has rights, when seen from the point of view of other men, who recognize that they have obligations toward him. A man left alone in the universe would have no rights whatever, but he would have obligations.
Imagine, for instance, the relationship between a good master and a good servant in Vedic culture, or, for that matter, in medieval Europe. There will be no talk of rights; there are no labor unions, no social security system. Still, just as the servant has duties toward his master, the master has obligations toward the servant. The master, having received years of faithful service, knows he is obliged to care for his servant in sickness, in the infirmity of old age, in death. The servant has, in effect, all the rights promised by modern âcradle to grave socialism.â But in this case, both master and servant know their obligations, and neither has to ask for his rights.
Weil goes on to point out an important difference between obligations and rights. The former are absolute, or unconditioned, and the latter relative and conditioned:
The notion of rights, being of an objective order, is inseparable from the notions of existence and reality. This becomes apparent when the obligation descends to the realm of fact; consequently, it always involves to a certain extent the taking into account of actual given states and particular situations. Rights are always found to be related to certain conditions. Obligations alone remain independent of conditions. They belong to a realm situated above all conditions, because it is situated above this world.
The sense of obligation is expressed in English by the verbal formula âought to.â In Sanskrit, there is a special verbal form, called vidhi-lin, that conveys injunctions, that is to say, what was enjoined or directed by Vedic authority. Weil understands that obligations are unconditional. They derive from a transcendent realm.
She continues:
The men of 1789 did not recognize the existence of such a realm. All they recognized was one on the human plane. That is why they started off with the idea of rights. But at the same time they wanted to postulate absolute principles. This contradiction caused them to tumble into a confusion of language and ideas which is largely responsible for the present political and social confusion. The realm of what is eternal, universal, unconditioned is other than the one conditioned by facts, and different ideas hold sway there, ones which are related to the most secret recesses of the human soul.
âThe men of 1789â are the architects of the French Revolution. Since they rejected divine injunctions, they had to forgo talk of duties or obligations. They could adduce only the cognate ârights.â Those they could simply assert, without grounding or foundation. Yet, as Weil has pointed out, ârightsâ by themselves are impotent. To be effective, they require someone else to accept the corresponding obligations.
It is a commonplace in philosophy that it is not possible to derive an âoughtâ from an âis.â They are two different realms. âOughtâ requires an authority. Ultimately, I will argue, an absolute one. For a person becomes an authority only by being authorized by another. Hence there emerges a sequence of authorizing agents that can only endâwhere? If the chain has an anchor, a foundation, it ends with the unique self-authorizing authorizer of all others. In other words, God.
Or, of course, with a god-surrogate, an imitator. Your idol du jour.
In the Bhagavatam, the kshatriya kings are guided by the brahmanas, those who are able to know transcendence and who have the skill to apply that knowledge correctly to concete affairs. In such a society, people are trained from childhood in a culture of obligation.
The results may surprise us.
If we search though Bhagavatam for statements of the obligations of a king, for instance, we discover a citizenry with far more rights that most of us have today.
For example, Prabhupada writes in the purport to Bhagavatam 4.17.12
It is the duty of the king to see that everyone in the social ordersâbrahmana, kshatriya, vaishya and shudraâis fully employed in the state. Just as it is the duty of the brahmanas to elect a proper king, it is the duty of the king to see that all the varnasâbrahmana, kshatriya, vaishya and shudraâare fully engaged in their respective occupational duties. It is here indicated that although the people were allowed to perform their duties, they were still unemployed. . . . . When the people are perplexed in this way, they should approach the head of government, and the president or king should take immediate action to mitigate the distress of the people.
In other words, everyone has a right to full employment. If people cannot find work, then the state is obliged to arrange for their employment.
Bhagavatam (1.14.41, purport) speaks of the rights of those who are weak, diseased, or old or otherwise helpless:
The brahmanas, who are always engaged in researching knowledge for the societyâs welfare work, both materially and spiritually, deserve the protection of the king in all respects. Similarly, the children of the state, the cow, the diseased person, the woman and the old man specifically require the protection of the state or a kshatriya king. If such living beings do not get protection by the kshatriya, or the royal order, or by the state, it is certainly shameful for the kshatriya or the state.
Bhagavatam recognizes (5.15.7, purport) even a universal right to happiness:
As a representative of the Supreme Lord, the king had the duty to protect the citizens in a perfect way so that they would not be anxious for food and protection and so that they would be jubilant.
Of course, governments today do not represent the Lord, nor are the citizens jubilant.
In the eighteenth century, Europe was completing the turn from a God-centered to a human-centered world view. With the triumph of humanism, obligations lost their force, and talk of rights began.
After so many years of humanism, we still hear that the most basic of human rightsâfood, clothing, shelter, physical security, healthâgo scandalously unfulfilled in most places in the world.
And the rights of the mute, nonhuman populace are only beginning to be acknowledged.
Yet, for all the handwringing over rights, there is precious little action. Simone Weil put her finger on the problem: âA right is not effectual by itself, but only in relation to the obligation to which is corresponds.â
Thus, to be effective in bringing about full social justice to human and animals alike we must return to the culture of obligations. Shrila Prabhupadaâs presentation of Bhagavatam is intended to effect that return.
We should now recognize that the only way to go forward is by going back. We progress by returning.

Dear Ravindra Svarupa Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obiesances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I also experienced some insights on the fairness of the Vedic social system by reading the works of a brilliant scholar, namely, Alexis DeTocqueville. Based on that I believe we might say that a fundamental cause of the difference between the Vedic view and the modern one is that the modern idea ignores, and attempts to negate, unavoidable inequality among members of society; in contrast, in the Vedic model the inequalities are explicit and acknowledged by all.
For instance, those working for wage cannot have equal ability to generate their own means of livelihood as does the capitalist. Throughout the history of the U.S. this inequality has been ignored to a large extent. The right to liberty mentioned in the U.S. constitution was basically alluding to laissez-faire capitalism. Ignoring this inequality creates unfair competition between classes with unequal levels of power. This ârightâ can, and often does, lead to exploitation.
However, according to Tocqueville, although the idea of equality among master and servant did not exist:
âAmong aristocratic peoples, it was not rare to find, in the service of the great, noble and vigorous souls who bore servitude without feeling it, and who submitted to the will of their master without fearing his angerâ.
This is similar to the ideal relationship between a loyal sudra and a responsible vaishaya in Vedic society- practically no equality, but a high level of fairness and mutual responsibility.
Another example is, it is impossible for a woman to have casual sex without a greater investment in the act than that of the man. The woman may get pregnant, the man canât. The right of consenting adults to enjoy sexual freedom ignores this inequality and is unfair to women. The Vedic ideal acknowledges the unequal investment in the act of sex and men do not have the right to prey on woman in society.
I grew up in rural Maine and in the early 1960âs the âdouble standardâ existed. Girls who had sex before marriage were stigmatized, boys werenât. However, the result of this was that there were a relative small group of girls were willing to be exploited. The idea of equality precipitated a morality where it is socially acceptable for boys (they have the, ârightâ) to attempt to seduce any girl regardless of how respectable she is.
So I believe the ideals of modern rights is fatally flawed because they are based on a false concept of equality which basically just gives those in more advantaged positions the right to take advantage of others.
Of course this is a simplistic description of an extremely complex reality.